How much value do you put on urine?

[trappnman]

not denying your experiences, but there would be those that would argue that those type of sets work with just the gland, not so much with just the urine.

I think what it all comes down to Bill, is that some consider urine a lure, some don't. In the overall scheme of things, there is coyote pee all over the place, while perhaps not with a nozzle, for sure with a intense effort to pee about wherever they want to pee, so while urine is of interest its not something I find my coyotes go too far out of their way to investigate. Esp in the fall trapping season, where scent marking does not occur. A flat set with gland and urine, which is all a scent post set is, does catch coyotes.

I'm curious- do oyu feel such flat sets, take more coyotes for oyu than hole sets? or do you exclussively just run urine gland sets?

mist is perhaps a misleading word- spraying all over the set would be more apt. I know from my experience (pretty much mirroring yours insofar as age range I'll be 65 in a few months) and there is no doubt in MY mind, that using lots of urine, gives me more coyotes, quicker. when I test something like that- its a year of doing so, a year not, a year doing so, etc- and the evidence is just too overwhelming to not spray

[coyotus]

Steve
I just lost a long elaborate post I typed out.Bottom line is you and I trap canines differently,sets,locations,bait,lures,equipment,what works for you and what works for me is different not better than the others approach/style/technique,just different.Bill

[braveheart]

I was taught to use a lot of urine used all over the set area.As long as the urine is a good urine and not some rancid kind.And I don't mist the urine it is a stream.

[trappnman]

I agree Bill- and the purpose of discussion is not to prove one way better...its to see what othres are seeing, that you do not.

for example- and I don't know if this is you or not and if it is is not the point- but some feel a flat set, is a superior set to a hole set. I don't mean on a singular situation, but as an overall go to set.

I can remember debating with people, that the flat set was far more productive than my hole sets- and for me they were until I reached a point where pretty much all my sets were flat sets- lots of them so invisible, I could tell what the exact spot was until I pulled the trap or had a coyote.

and my best hole set, was a sharp stepdown set-

now, the set I make 99% of the time, is the same hole set, with a modifed stepdown/dished pattern over the trap, with substantial backings and large extend wide angle patterns.

I came to that BY discussion, by trying what others said worked, by adapting that to my own situation.

ChrisM still said it best-"if it works for you, you are doing it right"

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Speaking of ChrisM, where in the devil is he??? He never said a lot but a lot of what he said was sage!!

[trappnman]

I think the NTA is occumpying most of his time. Met him a few time,s very quiet spoken, very nice man

[coyotus]

Steve
Sorry if I came across as "my way" was the right way,that was never my intention.I started out misting the whole set than changed after I saw the the animals were doing on objects they peed on.I know a guy that catches over 300 coyotes a year,during the fur season,in leg holds and doesn't use either urine or lure ever.He alternates between two different baits in a modified trench set.He does use some blind trail sets also.