coon snaring

[bobwendt]

you get the same price on coon now as couple years ago. everyone elses prices jumped pretty good. I sold a bunch of feb rubbed out wooley junk ks coon up to $30 this year, avgs low 20`s net. that`s whole lot more than the year before, or before that. steven, no ,neck rings don`t dock, but tman says he has snared a hundred and a few neck snared. how few? 3 ?, 1?, maybe 5?. the rest, damaged! and some not so slight. tman you say you know green coon selling yet can`t consistently neck snare them, and you sell cheaper on account of it. it affects your averages, it does everywhere and I`m sure your buyer has no secret market that cuts coon hides in half so no worries. ask your buyer if he pays same for a foothold coon or a snared ringed coon. we`ll see if he as smart as you say, lol, and if he is honest! I can tell you how to lessen the ring, but no sense if you insist no problem.

[thorsmightyhammer]

I think the only cure, is small loops 100% speicfic to coon, not canines.


Thats part of it. Its hard to set snares with multiple species in mind.

Each animal has its own variances.

You cant set a snare for a coyote thinking in the back of your mind if you catch a coon you will have favorable results.

since our snare loops for coon are so silly, Im thinking foothold the coyotes and just snare coon, as long as its a 24 check anyways

I know you mean coyotes and not coon and I 've told you what I'd do.

[trappnman]

yes bob- I sold coon at $30 also. Tell you what, I'll market my coon my way, you market your coon your way. I see the auction slips form this area, and I'm not impressed enough to put up and ship.

[trappnman]

yes Bob- are you reading the posts? I'm talking a lot of damage- but not the leather mark-

I'm always impressed how people know my business better than I do.....

I'm no coon snaring expert- but if you tried to snare many coon, its obvious you get some by accident by the neck. Yet, you state you have never, ever neck snared a coon.

My whole question, is there any lock that consistently does less FUR harm on coon.

tman you say you know green coon selling yet can`t consistently neck snare them,

please, tell me how this means anything germane to the subject...

[thorsmightyhammer]

I see the auction slips form this area, and I'm not impressed enough to put up and ship.

I've been think about this since we talked over the weekend.

Do the guys whose slips you see know how to put up coon?

Not being a smart alec but do they really know how to properly skin a coon and strech it.

[thorsmightyhammer]

My whole question, is there any lock that consistently does less FUR harm on coon.

Have you tried a Reichart washer lock.

Not the junk washer lock. A reverse 180 style.

[trappnman]

no- I have not steven-

[thorsmightyhammer]

What about my other question.

Actually a reichart is a pretty good lock. Problem is it isnt a good "killing" lock.

Ask rally about it, he can explain it better than I but a larger lock with more flat surface area touching the hide will do less damage than a smaller lock if the animal isnt intended to be disptached.

Hey I want one of those warning meters

If I cant get one I am going to have to try earn it.

Oh and get rid of the invisible mode.

[bobwendt]

when everyone is an , oh never mind.... I`ve got nothing to add I havn`t said already. or anything else I want to add either.

[thorsmightyhammer]

Ah come on Bob.

Add some more. For a twenty dollar net I think I will go to kansas and trap coon.

How about indiana coon. Any reports from people that shipped last year.

[bobwendt]

indiana coons,if you got on the late sale, boarded them like they were a million bucks, not shot holes or snare rings ( lol), $12 gross, $10 net on indiana stuff. the nw part of the state has about $5 better coons, but same deal, you need them boarded and done up right. no wire and poop job . i.e. not like most guys would do it. geen in the country here last year $8-$6-$4-$2. but 1 in a 100 are the $8 one, avg maybe $4.50

[thorsmightyhammer]

You can stretch coon on wire bob. Just have to modify it with a wood bottome.

I am going to them more and more. Dont have to dick around with wedges and alot cheaper.

Can buy used stretchers for a buck or tow and a piece of plywood and viola.

Here is what a hip snared coon with a camlock and a spring is worth doc.

170075 4XL-3XL DGD 2-5 AVG 1 9.50 9.50

And basically the same coon 220'd



168443 4XL-3XL SDG 2-3 GD 1 30.00 30.00

[trappnman]

steven- I wouldn't have a clue.

but if its worth $1.50-$2 to you to put up coon, then you should do it.

when I can sell every coon green, from Oct to Mar for a $15-16 cash average, I'll take it.

I've talked a couple of times to FHA, and was told that I should keep selling as I was. The only thing they told me they could probably do better on was my canines.

I'm not going to change the way I sell- I have a good relationship with my buyer and am more than happy.

[bobwendt]

it`s more than $2-3. you not only pay yourself the labor, but a boarded coon you can up the size and grade too if you want to do the work. . those nasty coon I had late last year, i doubt there is a buyer in the country that would have paid over $10 on scratch back wooley yellow nastys if sold green. but after I do the woopsee doodle on them they doubled plus some, net, tripled gross. so its more like a $10 + gain if done right.

[trappnman]

Bob- I simply can't explain the green market to you. Its unique I guess here-

I put up coon for several years- and after being told time and again, that I could get a better average green, I listened.

I don't know who you ever sold green coon to- but trust me, its not the same.

[thorsmightyhammer]

"but if its worth $1.50-$2 to you to put up coon, then you should do it."

2 bucks. Who said? Lee? Sure that all he is going to pay ya.

If the guys around you trapped coon from Oct. 21 til march and only averaged 2 bucks more than you in their pocket they did something wrong.

Should have been more like five.

I averaged 25 and change in my pocket. I'll be the first to say its not a fair comparison because I had mostly top of the line coon. But I dont doubt for a second if I would have had a seasonal collection I could have cleared 22. Dont doubt it for a second.


Now do I think you should have put yours up. Dont know. Do what you want. 16 green is decent money. Take it and run.

I've talked to rich about this many times(trapping lots of coons and finishing). I put all my stuff but if I was nailing big number coons I'd probably throw them on joe blows floor.

maybe.

Educate me again if you will. What do you think most of you coons weigh minnimum for the most part. 12-15 pounds?

[thorsmightyhammer]

per the original question I'd talk to rally about it and maybe give the reicharts a try.

Or better yet see what steve craig has to say.

And wheres my meter.

[furman]

I put up coon for several years- and after being told time and again, that I could get a better average green, I listened.

I need to find that buyer!!

I have sold to the bigger buyers in Minnesota and else where. Lots of 100 coon and 50 mink to each buyer looking for a buyer that and compete with the auction but I have yet to find one. They all say the same thing my put up look great and you have good quality fur but they always fall short on there price.

[furman]

Or better yet see what steve craig has to say.

I second that

[bobwendt]

tman, serious question, are you doing a lousy put up to where they really do pay you less finished? that is a possibility. If I had the top quality coon you have in your area, I believe I could make $10 across the board over your green avg if I finished them, maybe more. but I`ll have to say, I don`t like to finish any fur anymore. anykind. I don`t need the money and would rather just trap. maybe you are the same boat.