Bill Nelsons Bait Formula

[k9]

That ole boy from Crete is a likable sort, without a doubt. He is a terrier man so he must be good people. I haven't done the math to see if he is 300 miles from Broadus or not.

You guys make OG sound like the wicked witch of the west. Looking down on Rich, saying "I'll get you my pretty, and your little dog too!"

[rk660]

I should have left that damn dog with you when I had the chance K9, like the song says, WHat was I think-ing, Ive had enough episodes with them most guys would have fed them a 40 grainer by now.

Their idea of a banana split is beaver meat, i let em knaw on them a couple days before I haul off. Sumbeeches will about fight to the death over a damn beaver foot, when 5 ft away is a 1/2 doz carcasses. They cant eat off the same carcass pile at the same time, like 200 lbs of beaver meat aint going to feed 2 15 lb dogs. Then once they get into it over beaver meat, they are pissed off at each other for about 3 days. Theyve gotten damn good at smuggling in rotten beaver feet into the house, even with me standing guard at door. Almost think they swallow them whole, then barf em up when I aint watching. Ever go to bed after a hard days work to find a rotten beaver foot in bed with ya. Maybe you being a lawman K9, you can give me some pointers on doing cavity searches on dogs.
I know every time I dont wash or lid up an empty 5 gal pail of Predator Plus, as I find a jagd rolling around in it.
No matter how much wrong they do, they can look at ya with their head slightly cocked with little puppy eyes...and all is forgiven.
I try to take them trapping, but since Im working close to road at many spots, they are too hard to control when they bounce out of the truck, and if you dont mind them closely, they are off on a hunt and kill mission and Im trying to get down the road. One at a time aint bad with a shock collar. I can jugde how good Im camo-ing my 1/16 snares with them, the male anyways. Ive gotten very particular about blending in my cat snares especially when youve got a 3-6 snow background that make even 1/16 stand out. I find with a lot of snow background, if a cat sees the snare, they will try to step thru it w/o touching it, and many times they do. The male dog has been snared enough its got to look pretty good to catch him these days, if after a snow and I reblend the snare, if I can snare the dog, i can snare a cat. I made up some 3/64 snares for certain spots where its hard to blend a snare well, such as on the ice, they look real good compared to 1/16. i was able to snare the dog w/o a lot of heavy fencing like I was needing on 1/16, telling me I should be improved on the cats when the snow gets deep. Now the female dog, I can snare 5-6 times a day, she is just like female humans, dumber and moodyer than males. Both of them got the 220 box treatment w/ safeties left on for training, they veer around a box so far and watch it the whole time like its gonna sprout legs and come after them, LOL. I'll have to tell you about the time the part time coon trapper from NE saw multiple coon trails in the snow coming out of some beaver holes right next to a bridge, Time to get the dogs! Everyone is excited, me, the dogs, one so excited she shits all over the console of truck, send tunnel rats in..and first bad sign is a black coon with white stripes coming out of hole, then another, then another. had to dig a dog out, and thought one was a gonner. Seems the guy who can catch a 1000 coon in a season cant tell the difference between a coon track and a skunk track in the snow. Anybody got a spare hawbaker book they could loan me? I need to go back to school.

I heard some gal in KS who hunts Jack Russels lost a dog in a skunk den this year, they found both dog and skunk dead in hole.

[k9]

Sounds like you guys are having fun! We won't get into my past, where I woke up to rotten beaver feet in my bed. That is a whole new topic and thread!

A far as dog cavity searches go, I'll leave that one to Doc Wendt.

[ltd]

Ha you all this thread is a no brainier. Braveheart was taught by a good friend of bill nelson it was Ron Hanson. I hope all you no it alls no him .

[mattduncan]

hey ltd what's that supose to mean ?

[johnthomas]

i think he means braveheart was taught by a good frend of bill nelsons, a fellow named ron hanson, and then he wants all of us know it alls to know who ron hanson is. thats what i got from it anyways.

[Heavymetal]

I bought some of Rk660's predator plus this summer and have caught a grey fox and a bobcat on it this season, Im experimenting with several different baits. I plan to use some this weekend on the yotes. it is not quite as strong as it was when it came in the mail. lol the ups guy must have been wondering what the h__! It was on the porch when I got home and had all the neigbors dogs hanging around. Good bait for sure.

[stranger]

I can't seem to get a recipe for the nelson formula, so I guess I'll stick to buying or making my own simple formulas. I had a friend that knew a friend of somebody once. Didn't do me much good.lol

[JWS]

Why dosent someone post the recipe?

I have heard a lot about it , i would like to see the recipe myself .

[bobwendt]

bacause the guys that have it paid for it and think why should they give it away? fwiw, anyone, ANYONE, rhat thinks the road to success trapping is having some special bait or lure, or knowing 47 different sets is a (lol) know nothing, as that is what they know, not a thing at all ,and can be played by the con men. sheesh.

[Traveler]

The road to success is simply.Have the animals to catch......a decent break with the weather and MOST of all......work your arse off !!!!!

[bobwendt]

give that man a gold star!

[trappnman]

so then Bob your lesson is, use any nelson bait no matter how its made or who makes it, its all the same in results

[Stef]

Why people are trying to duplicate something that its already made.
When you possibly have 50 guys who sell/sold or advertised as Nelson bait or solution etc... in the past 10 years and sure more...

Think the word original is lost here

Anyway, I read somewhere that Wayne King from Nebraska made that bait in the 30s.... Should we call it King's bait?...LoL

Stef

[bobwendt]

TMAN, NO. BUT THE BAIT OR LURE IS WAY DOWN THE LIST BEHIND HARD WORK, ANIMALS TO CATCH IN NUMBERS, HAVING ENOUGH GROUND, KNOWING SIMPLE BASIC SIGN READING AND SET LOCATION ETC. sorry, dagone cap lock is sticky and sticks on me, being a one finger typer i don`t look up. I push the nelson in my videos, as it is what I use, from rich kaspar, and it`s good stufff. guys buy and watch the videos and it is so frustrating as they never see anything else but only if they just had that nelson bait then they would be an instant longliner and pro- well duh, hell no!. everyone wants an easy solution to hard work and paying their dues. this obsession with nelson bait or who evers lures is ridiculous and counter productive to the learning curve. had I known folks would hear the bait used and nothing else, I`d have never even mentioned it( the bait). also I hear "in wendts videos all he shows is a dirthole, so there is nothing to learn" Is that guy a whacko? what really blows my mind is the videos that show numerous off the wall sets, like you have the secret sets now boys! crappola no one uses and is just fluff for con men to sell videos to true idiots. I really question the i.q. of a lot of trappers that get sucked into this nelson bait "secret", or the old indian set, the stepdown, the 40 variations of a flat or dirthole, the spring hole set, the 2 hole set. heck, they are all the same deal, good on location and worthless not. yada yada yada and the search for the silver bullet will go for eternity and those never finding it will never accept that there is none. just a bullet, but it`s not silver, or jacketed , or super charged. just a regular old bullet that anyone can own. but you can`t buy it, you have to make it yourself, and it takes years, something vewry few guys have, or ever will. too many other things in their life more important, like beer, women, nfl games, whatever. any and everything but real trapping.

[robertw]

Bob, you need to copy that paragraph and put it in a book!

[bobwendt]

no one would believe it. they`d say I never learned anything from bob`s book, but joe bumflocks book, he told how to make 40 different secret sets. the most secret of all the mobster set, or some such - a turd with a drop of gland on a trail and blended in. gee, whodda thunk a that. If I`d only known how to make that set when I was just starting.....

[k9]

Dammit. I can't buy it. I think I am less than 300 miles from Greenfield Indiana.

[k9]

Hooray! I am saved! I just checked mapquest and I am 435.57 miles from Greenfield Ind.

[bobwendt]

bad news, I don`t sell it. rich kaspar does, crete nebraska. you probably both are shafted, unless you have money of course and yo mama can buy it in her name .