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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Dec 1, 2014 17:39:55 GMT -6
From day one, CNN has twisted the Ferguson story. The network decided early on that an injustice had been done, contrary facts aside. When the grand jury decided not to indict, CNN was primed for outrage, because there was no way Officer Darren Wilson could have acted appropriately. The network helped stir up a nation to the point of violence. Yet, since the protesters must always be on the side of the angels, CNN lies about the destruction that follows.
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Post by trappnman on Dec 1, 2014 17:55:45 GMT -6
and there you go again-
CNN interviewed one of them any that were there for peaceful protest-
yet every network carried the riots-
media coverup I disagree!
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Dec 2, 2014 5:35:05 GMT -6
Tman those words not mine but from the NY post as well With CNN attracting slightly more than 500,000 in the 25-54 age group nightly One can see why ..............
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Post by trappnman on Dec 2, 2014 7:59:03 GMT -6
TC- when did you know there were riots? in minutes? hrs? days? still don't know and since you watched CNN you think there were no riots?
I think its clear, there was no media coverup, or misreporting
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Post by bblwi on Dec 2, 2014 9:06:09 GMT -6
For the enlightenment of those of us reviewing your posts maybe a short explanation of what 500K persons the age group from 25-54 watching CNN would be in order.
Bryce
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Dec 2, 2014 18:57:02 GMT -6
The ratings for October 2014:
Primetime (Mon-Sun): 475K Total Viewers / 184K A25-54 Total Day (Mon-Sun): 418K Total Viewers / 134K A25-54
This is CNN's numbers for October 2014 on avg.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Dec 2, 2014 20:43:24 GMT -6
Never stated cover up, just a very biased reporting and what they wanted to report on.
Wonder how much time they will devote to the Kevin quick trial? What CNN's viewpoint will be on such if they report on it?
Wonder how many even know about Kevin quick?
Yet no riots over his death? Hum wonder why?
You see media loves to root on class war fair with thier words, men against woman, rich against poor, black versus white, religious versus non religous, etc,etc. It is what gives them a false sense of some sort of power.
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Post by bblwi on Dec 2, 2014 22:07:34 GMT -6
I was not interested in the ratings exact number as the difference between 420K and 500K is small. What I wanted to know is why you felt it important to single out the 25-54 age group that watch CNN during the evening. What point are you trying to make with that data and inference?
Bryce
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Post by PamIsMe on Dec 3, 2014 1:42:03 GMT -6
"...those words not mine but from the NY post as well..."
And you think the New York Post actually reports factual news? LOL
Cheers, Pam
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Dec 3, 2014 5:51:35 GMT -6
The point Bryce is the age groups of men and woman that many people fall in and you pulling in those kinds of numbers? People 25-54 must A. not care much durring those hours or B. are watching other coverage of news? I just know less than half a million is a small audience. Pam this was a artical done by a person, not tabloid news and I guess we can the put the NY post in with CNN as far as accurate News goes? You may not like the source but the words are from an African American. So some will tell him he is acting white What is reality is he is an educated man and doesn't fall into the baiting that takes place. insider.foxnews.com/2014/12/02/milwaukee-county-sheriff-david-clarke-talks-megyn-kelly-about-ag-holder-ferguson
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Post by bblwi on Dec 3, 2014 9:10:24 GMT -6
Your discussion of the polling and CNN makes little to know sense regarding the argument at hand. Men and women age 25-54 with school age and college age children, work and other activities are probably not watching many news channels in the evening. I was more interested in why you felt that demographic was important to list but I guess we won't know why you listed them or if there was any real reason or value in doing so.
Bryce
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Post by trappnman on Dec 3, 2014 10:37:56 GMT -6
very well said Bryce-
the reason Bryce, was to try to suggest that CNN was putting rainbows and skittles in their reports, and therefore, the world's broader media, was, in some convoluted logic, doing the same. TC (and I'm guessing FAUX news) seems to think that the media didn't address the rioting ,etc- and thats far from the truth-
and btw, since you are so concerned with CNN- perhaps google some of its clips during the rioting?
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Post by bblwi on Dec 3, 2014 12:16:09 GMT -6
Picking on CNN because one feels they are not reporting the news accurately makes the heroic assumption that all other media outlets do. Now from my experience there is a lot of variation in how events get reported. Marketing is a big part of that. Can't have dozens of news organizations competing for dollars all with the same line of thought. Ferguson is a tragic event, but a single event and to work to politicize that from any principle is further causing our nation social issues. The one thing that is evident during critical events be they large or small we readily see how quickly those with the power can control the situation and if not they have resources available to blitz the media with the reports that serve them best and that can be from government and the private sector. From my perspective to continue to bash national news takes a lot of the responsibility away from the local units of security and government. Two take 3 months to have a grand jury make a decision on a very tension filled event is begging for issues. That is either due to incompetence or design. You could not set in an office and pay an add firm to design a better media frenzy event than the way this one played out. Lots of dollars made on this one and maybe deliberately planned by those in charge as well.
Bryce
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Dec 3, 2014 17:50:01 GMT -6
No assumption CNN doesn't report facts but bias they do so because their market share is low.
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Post by bblwi on Dec 3, 2014 18:17:10 GMT -6
I don't think it is generally accurate to correlate low ratings with the need to bias the news. PBS does not have high ratings and I don't feel they work hard to bias news. To me they reach out to those that want to hear news the way they broadcast the news. The extreme left and right do a lot of bias reporting and most of those have low ratings. I don't see them working to gain more market share but mostly to grease their loyal viewers.
Bryce
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Dec 3, 2014 20:27:38 GMT -6
PBS Bryce as you well,know is public TV meaning they raise funds and get backing from government dollars as well to be on air, cable news does not last I knew?
CNN will be off the air if they cannot afford to run their business. They sell advertising and when your market share is small your advertising revenue matches it as well.
Theybhad a contract dispute with dish network not to long ago, common with channels but when one sees that only 10 percent of CNN's numbers comes from dish it tells me that they cannot afford to loose another 10 percent..............
It all depends on what BIAS news they are reporting as well, if you want to call to the masses in a hot situation you BIAS your coverage towards those people.............
They did that with the ferguson situation. That is just the facts of the matter, many people could see it even in their twitter writings after the verdict.
yes Fox has a few shows that aimed at the far right but overall they try to keep things in discussion hence the reason they are the number one rated cable news network not by a little either. They cover CNN ratings by 3 X's.
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Post by bblwi on Dec 3, 2014 21:44:15 GMT -6
And PBS because it has public support does not want to keep things in discussion? That is a bold thought on your part. I don't think that government support indicates a bias either way. I doubt if government sways news or media as much as high volume advertisers do. I have watched PBS for 40 years and they had the same shows over changes in the WH, Congress etc. so I did not see or feel a major bias swing depending on which party was leading the nation
Bryce
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Post by PamIsMe on Dec 4, 2014 1:46:30 GMT -6
"...yes Fox has a few shows that aimed at the far right.."
that's an understatement if I ever heard one LOL
Cheers, Pam
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Dec 4, 2014 5:50:46 GMT -6
Bryce you brought up PBS and I merely stated that they get govt support, never did I mention their coverage. Those in the business to make money, well need to make money..........
I have watched PBS for 30 years and in SD I would donate to them as well. Loved the red green show and other's on PBS as well.
The point being PBS gets its funding in other means than cable news networks............. never did I mention their coverages. But to try and link PBS and CNN as the same? nothing close in programming or the way they are funded.............
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Post by trappnman on Dec 4, 2014 7:31:22 GMT -6
thanks for the laugh of the day concerning FAUX and they" might have a few right wing shows"
so now this has morphed into a discussion about CNN? when the whole discussion is your assertion, taken from FAUX, that CNN showed the riots as a peaceful protest- its bullshite! just google CNN during that period- but I know you won't cause then facts would supercede your opinion, and that can't happen.....
do you buy red herrings by the bushel? man, talk about debating the shape of the table as Wiley always said...............
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