it always comes back to coyotes...................

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Alright, great videos!  I certainly agree that after watching your trapping video, you are to a high degree, imitating a badger's diggings but only by pattern size.  Also, I noticed there was no trench/slope effect to the digs and the dirt was always in a pile in front of the hole.  When I say "pile", I mean the excavated soil was above ground level whereas when you make your coyote set you've made a "V" below grade for your trap bed and really, your pattern.

If you still have the link to the last two videos I sent you, notice the difference between the coyote's diggings and that of the badger.

Here are two examples of coyote diggings where they worked a lured, 1" hole-

 


Now a question, am I not seeing sharp edges in these photos because I think I am or is there a difference in interpetation of what sharp edges are?  If they are "sharp edges", I can say that coyotes will not hesitate to appraoch these diggings and work them again if there is any scent left.


Here's a larger diameter hole and notice the pile of dirt out front and the size of the pattern/apron in this video.
youtu.be/O72W1Wa0Z_c

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A tip when viewing my videos and photos for that matter-

I strongly suggest viewing them on a "full" pc screen so tha detail can be seen or use your "zoom" button.  I've viewed mine on my Iphone and you can't see crap!

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I forgot to mention how hugely different/foreign your topography and diary farm-type ground is then anything within many miles of me.  The topography though, changes to similar as yours about 30 miles NW with a few Amish farms and then nothing really except big woods.

[trappnman]

no, no sharp edges in your photo to my mind.

on the badger re: ridges. These were old dens- on fresh dens, you often have a ridge on both sides of the entrance hole, where I've seen it3-4" deep, where the badger is coming in an out.

in your pic #1- those are ridges, on both sides of the hole-

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Good, we're on the same page!

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Here are two repeat diggings by coyote.  When I say repeat I mean that there has been a minimum of two separate workings of each set.  With these two photos which were bait tests and the two previous photos that were single dug, lure tests, please note where one specific track is always in the same spot.  You may need to use zoom or expand to full screen to see the track in each photo.  Also notice how with each repeat digging, the new digging is always next to the original/first, never exactly staying within the first, so everything about the test hole becomes enlarged.  This is a normal observation with every repeat digging. 

[trappnman]

hugely different/foreign your topography and diary farm-type ground is then anything within many miles of me.

if I get further west, I get into the start of the Great Plains- flatter ground, but still a few creek/river valleys and some rolling ground.

but most of my ground is like the videos- coulees and valleys, with ridge tops.

one thing I was waiting for someone to mention, is in the video under the location pic (2nd from bottom) how visible the badger den on the far hill is. That den, on the hill (almost always) is the permanent den, the wintering den, pup rearing den. All the rest are temporary dens, created for a 1 or 2 night use- but they will, eventually, reuse those dens if their return

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a point Seldom- aren't, in your pictures, those holes showing small ridges from hdigging?

[Aaron.F]

A couple of coyote dug dirt holes, I try and keep these in mind when making dirt holes.

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Jun 25, 2016 6:57:51 GMT -6 trappnman said:

a point Seldom- aren't, in your pictures, those holes showing small ridges from hdigging?

Yes, I looks like they were formed from the excavated dirt being on the surface and then the excavation went below grade in a sloped manner.

 

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Aaron, were those holes or dirt hole sets you made and the coyote worked them?  I guess what I'm asking is, what was the original appreance of the holes before the coyotes worked them?

[Aaron.F]

Those holes were all done by coyotes digging for something. I had nothing to do with them.

[northof50]

Think of the holes another way.
What small mammals do you have and the types of holes they dig.
Grasshopper mice have clean 1 inch holes that go down 6 inches till they turn

13 linners have1 1/2 holes slightly slanted and so forth
A reward will accure when the yote does a quick scratch and sniff

[trappnman]

aaron- to me, those just do not look like coyote diggings- too organized in a way- coyotes seem more frantic

but those holes will attract a coyote for sure

[Aaron.F]

Jun 27, 2016 9:03:45 GMT -6 trappnman said:

aaron- to me, those just do not look like coyote diggings- too organized in a way- coyotes seem more frantic

but those holes will attract a coyote for sure

You actually bring up a good point about those holes. I found those holes last year while scouting for coyote sign and assumed they had been dug by coyotes because of all the coyote tracks. It could be that they were dug by something else and the coyotes had just tracked up the area investigating. And I had assumed they were dug by coyotes, it kind of reminds me that just because you see a coyote track by a dug up trap does t mean the coyote dug it up.

[trappnman]

that's a good point Aaron- Slim I think told me that years ago, and it stuck in my mind as well.

much as I hate snow, if every canine trapper could trap for a few weeks in snow at least once- so many things one thinks is true- isn't

what is really humbling, is when you think "I got them all"

[trappnman]

click it



took this with loris phone- only took me 2 days to figure out how to get it here, but good to know

these are untouched by me- only thing I did is lay trowel down. so this is from 3 one afternoon, until about 10 the next morning

let me ask something- do most of you have badgers, or are they a Midwest/western animal?

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I have very, very few badgers around me and have only caught 4 in my lifetime.  In my Zone, I can take one a year between 10/15-11/14

[bobbrennan1]

In mi. A few not many, in tx some what common, and ny none.

[braveheart]

Also is when you set up a spot and catch 2-3 coyotes.And you think you got the hot spot and it goes dead.Get a light dusting of snow and find parvo went through no pups and no drifters.Had that happen 3 yrs. ago.Catch all the adults and then check empty traps after all that work and miles.

[trappnman]

yes, very disappointing for sure.

on my video-

those holes were made late evening or during the night- yet by 10 the next morning- both were covered in coyote tracks, and both had diggings that probably were (but I don't know) by coyotes.

big fresh highly visible holes- worked almost immediately