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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2014 7:38:05 GMT -6
How does setting half a dozen traps close affect the overall catch,rather than backing way off with dirtholed ,blindsets,ect? My example is deer brought to site,not a deadpile thats been established for a long time. Basically whats the best ways to set this?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2014 7:42:19 GMT -6
I do put in thick cover,and set far enough away to not catch birds . But I only seem to get on average6 or so coyotes,few straying toms, over a week or so,wondering if setting up different would improve my catch.
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Post by trappnman on Feb 6, 2014 9:18:18 GMT -6
IMO- this is what we come down to when we are talking about "the spot". its not just dad piles as some seem to suggest, but its where you set up in relation to those dead piles.
A couple of things (whats your location btw, it would help?)- one being that the size of a dead pile is in direct relation to the amount of animals that are attracted to it. Secondly, with just a dead deer, if dead deer or alternative attractions are readily available then the drawing power of that singleton deer, might not be all that much. so that catching 6 coyotes and a couple of cats in a week, might well be all thats coming in there.
but in answer to your question, you need to find the spot where coyotes lay up/stall out in approaching that attraction, for the maximum catch
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2014 11:10:31 GMT -6
My location is Western North Carolina the mountains. I have multiple hides and scraps from a local deer butcher. I really noticed tracks in the snow this year holding back is this the stall out location?
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Post by trappnman on Feb 6, 2014 12:27:15 GMT -6
My thought is if you got 6-7 in a week, in mountain type area, you might be getting all the coyotes at that location.
or are you saying after the snow, you still saw lots of coyotes at those piles, but just not catching them?
backtrack as much as you can if you still got the snow- look for places the tracks converge- high areas, I'd say wooded and/or grass areas but sounds like its mostly woods- where you are seeing signs of scat and urine
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Feb 6, 2014 19:17:06 GMT -6
Scraps are never as good as whole carcasses to keep interest for a longer period of time. Location of those piles will mKe a difference as well. A great bait station in a marginal location will still net marginal results.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2014 19:30:17 GMT -6
Still yet, would you bait it up and back off with a variety of sets?I got3 weeks left one place300 acres with a few cattle another 150 acres never been trapped its new ground for me.the300 is my house I trap it ever two years for a week.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2014 19:37:21 GMT -6
I do know a whole deer or beaver is really good for me here,I got a great access to scraps so I use what I got. Ive just noticed the tracks this year with more snow than usual after I catch the cream the others are tough to get,but I do catch a few toward the end of a week or two.then the tracks the day I pull I didn't get.
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Post by trappnman on Feb 7, 2014 12:39:05 GMT -6
not sure what "the 300 is by my house" means?
there is no pattern to how coyotes eat dead deer here- or for that matter, hit my rat/mink/beaver/coon piles during winter. I've seen a complete deer eaten over night- I've seen them sit for weeks then gone, same with the piles
post a picture of the type of terrain you are talking about, I'd like to see it
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2014 14:44:33 GMT -6
The300 acres is here at my house,I trap every two years,not sure if it helps but try to leave seed for my kids future trapping. Ive been reading this site several years I always change because I forget my password . Same with email . Gonna get help and post pictures soon
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2014 17:46:19 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2014 17:47:47 GMT -6
Here's a few shots just to give you an idea - hope this helps. I'll be trapping behind that cabin to the right on a long ridge line.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2014 17:52:17 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2014 18:15:39 GMT -6
This is a summertime pic but just trying to give you an idea of the landscape. I mostly trap all these areas the same ways - with baited sites and the occasional dirt hole.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2014 18:16:51 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2014 5:53:51 GMT -6
I often find the travel locations and try to bait in funnels,example being were several mountains drop down to a low gap or lower ridgeline. Kinda like a predator interstate then an exit to lower ground. Im just interested in other sets to and from the bait.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2014 6:20:04 GMT -6
ive read often that trappers set traps away from the bait. Another thing I have to get close to check the traps not really practical to check from a distance cause the thick terrain.
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