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Post by bblwi on Feb 8, 2012 18:33:45 GMT -6
If I would have to charge $63 to flesh 9 rats to make a hat I would review my operating costs to see if I am anywhere close to running an efficient business. If they are charging that because they know they can then we as smart consumers should review our options. If I am going to pay someone $150 to use my fur to make a hat I an buy off the rack for $80 less or more than I am placing far too much personal value on my own fur.
It would really be great if the Chinese fur brokers would charge higher prices for Bryce's fur and I could get a kick back. Maybe there is something one could do about a naming fee.
Bryce
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Feb 8, 2012 19:35:50 GMT -6
bryce your missing the point as well, have to and will charge are two different things. No one has to do anything you could find another place to make your hat, you could flesh your own, hire someone else to do it for you, or hire USA Foxx to do one or the other or both. A free country if they desire to charge 7.00 to flesh a rat you can either use their services or not. Has nothing to do with them needing to look at any cost, they post the price for ALL to see. THe repair man that charges you 50.00 to drive to your house because your furnace won't run and all he does is light the pilot light and leave is that price gouging or should he rethink his cost as well? Free enterprise use the services or find others is what it all boils down to. The computer guy that fixes your computer for 45.00 and takes him 3 mins to do so, the lawyer who charges 125.00 per hr and does 35 mins of work yet your billed for an hr of services etc. Use them or find another source. Free country. It is what it is. Urban Myer is going to make 4 million next year as a college football coach, I think Ohio University needs to rethink there cost as well............  Or is he guility of price gouging the University for his services? |
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Post by lumberjack on Feb 8, 2012 20:23:10 GMT -6
My last lawyer in 09 cost me 360.00 per hr. I wanted the best and he was it, so I was told. Couldve got cheaper but I was in a whole world of hurt and was told he was the best. I live in podunkville too. I was keeping good records of all phone calls and visits and thought I was squared up as far as payment went, the case was over. A month later I get a bill for 800.00. on it, it said if I want to know what this bill is for, it will cost me more money. WTF? Now thats gouging right there. |
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Post by trappnman on Feb 8, 2012 20:27:05 GMT -6
could not agree more
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Post by seldom on Feb 8, 2012 20:36:51 GMT -6
I wanted the best and he was it, so I was told. A month later I get a bill for 800.00. on it, it said if I want to know what this bill is for, it will cost me more money. WTF? Now you know "the rest of the story", that he has more talents than advertised!  |
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Post by lumberjack on Feb 8, 2012 20:39:44 GMT -6
Im going to sell that letter on ebay some day to try to recoup some money back.
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Post by lumberjack on Feb 8, 2012 20:44:15 GMT -6
trappincoyotes39 your still in the 90s with some of those prices.
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Post by thorsmightyhammer on Feb 8, 2012 21:46:22 GMT -6
bryce, what would you charge to flesh and stretch a rat if you were doing it as a bona fide business trying to feed your family.
How about a beaver?
coon?
Me I wouldnt to it for less than 2.50, 3.00 bucks a rat, 10 bucks a beaver and 7 dollars a coon.
Now if I was the business owner and hired a dude to do the work, I'd raise the price 25 percent.
randy, I didnt realize you were an old fart lol.
I was born in 70.
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Post by orcatdog on Feb 8, 2012 22:10:37 GMT -6
Buyer in town today offering $60 averages on crapper to average coyotes! I'm waiting for the Klamath Falls, OR sale.
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Post by bblwi on Feb 8, 2012 22:31:46 GMT -6
I did not miss the point I purchased my rat hat from another provider. 49er your prices are more then 50% below what is quoted so the price has already dropped. So fleshing a rat for an end product is worth 5 times what it is to do it as a trapper or for a trapper? You mean that when I decide to do it as a business the rates go up 400%. I thought in our capitalistic nation that competition lowered prices not raised them.
Sure a furrier needs to make a living and if that is the business they choose to make living with they need to discover the price and value mix to gross enough revenue to live. That does not always mean just raising prices to generate revenue. When priced out of the market nothing gets made or sold. At 40 rats an hour I don't think a person needs to make $280 per hour to feed their family. Yes I know that is only part of the story and a small part. No wonder fur is shipped out of country to be processed and made into garments. Here we are lead to believe that it was the evil over paid collective bargaining worker that priced work out of the market place but in this case I did not see any UAW signs in their ads, so there are other factors contributing to their high rates.
Bryce
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Feb 9, 2012 6:59:21 GMT -6
Bryce you really think the majority of fur dressed outside the US is because of USA Foxx? Really? LOL.........
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Post by trappnman on Feb 9, 2012 7:58:23 GMT -6
he didn't say USSA FOX- he said BUSINESS PRACTICES akin to what USSA FOX does.
read the whole post and the continuity is obvious-
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Post by lumberjack on Feb 9, 2012 9:49:33 GMT -6
I had some welding done the other day to my vehicle. It was a major shop, about the only game in town. There price was more than the local guy operating out of his garage yet close to what I figured, somewhat over.
I asked and they said they did dozens of the type of job I needed done, The locals him-hawed around for my question
I negotiated, and we arrived at what I was willing to pay.
Something to try in this new economy?
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Post by mtcbrlatrap on Feb 9, 2012 11:04:28 GMT -6
We see a lot of people reading just what they care to read. The bothersome thing about that is it demonstrates considerable lack of initiative to try and see how the whole system functions and or which way things are trending etc. yet we wonder why we are so disappointed in how things operate or function. Holding very narrow views of what is acceptable allows for a lot of blaming and rationalization as most falls outside of the narrow range of acceptability.
That is one thing I find difficult about many small businesses many have such poor business management practices they continue to ask you what it is worth to you or what do you think it should cost. If you don't know how much it costs to do a job in your business how he H would I know? Lots of fur buyers operate that way and after you give them a quote if you do then the piling and rationalizing begins.
Bryce
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Post by thorsmightyhammer on Mar 25, 2012 8:33:28 GMT -6
Hmmm.
Coyote sales are in.
FH just posted 49 dollar eastern coyote average and 71.50 western average.
My buddy just sold our shot coyotes in the country for 40 bucks. It wasnt to the dealer I'd have prefered but he's putting them up so I aint arguing. Probably cost us five bucks.
Most of em were shot late february early march so they were on the downhill side.
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Post by trappnman on Mar 25, 2012 17:35:06 GMT -6
looks good- do you know % sold?
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