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Post by motrapperjohn on Jul 7, 2011 14:03:02 GMT -6
1 1/8" square acroos the opening, Diagonal 1 5/16", Depth from the lower tube to the trigger 1 1/2" . From what your regulations say the only time there is any restrictions is while mink, muskrat, beaver and otter season is closed. Those restrictions include any trap that is set in water or that can be within reach of water.
Didnt you state you modified a bunch of your dukes and grizes too 2-ways triggers is so, and you are saying that is what makes mine illegal then yours too must be illegal. And I think I remember you saying that you preset your drowning rigs, Is that right? If so you might want to check what the regs say about that. Sounds to me you got a lot of traps you cant use all the time. I can come to your state and use the daggers all the time!
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Post by mustelameister on Jul 7, 2011 14:29:15 GMT -6
(from 2011 WI trapping regs)
You may not:
• place any set or sprung trap, snare, cable restraint, bait, or scent for furbearing animals during the closed season.
This does not disallow the presetting of drowner cables.
Still waiting on the answer on the DP trigger issue. And it's just more than an issue of setting these pre-water season. IF push/pull triggers are not allowed as part of a DP trap in WI, then they will also not be allowed within 15' of any beaver dam, regardless of date or season.
And keep in mind home-made DP traps will also not count as DP traps in WI. They must be "commercially made", however that is defined.
You may not:
• operate trap sets which permit the trapped animal to reach water, except when the muskrat, mink, beaver, or otter trapping season is open in the zone you are trapping, or unless using a commercially manufactured enclosed trigger trap.
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Post by Scott W. on Jul 7, 2011 15:03:26 GMT -6
So you make some, and offer them for sale. Sounds commercial to me. Just because you can't meet the demand shouldn't disqualify the trap. Shoot, many folks couldn't get the Grizz and it is surely considered a commercially made trap.
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Post by RdFx on Jul 7, 2011 17:20:49 GMT -6
Dittoo Scott... what you selling ? LOL
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Post by Scott W. on Jul 7, 2011 17:53:46 GMT -6
Nothing right now. Just spreading good cheer. ;D
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Post by braveheart on Jul 7, 2011 18:31:10 GMT -6
For the roadrunners of coon trapping, the new DP Ztrap is for you, try this with any DP trap out there. I say "Put it where you want it"!! Attachments:
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Post by braveheart on Jul 7, 2011 18:33:52 GMT -6
Or you can set it the conventional way and stick it in the dirt. It is out of the box, ready to set, slap your name tag on, and go. The new Ztrap will be at the NTA. www.kegcreekbaits-lures.comAttachments:
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Post by thebeav2 on Jul 7, 2011 19:47:38 GMT -6
Didnt you state you modified a bunch of your dukes and grizes too 2-ways triggers is so, and you are saying that is what makes mine illegal then yours too must be illegal. And I think I remember you saying that you preset your drowning rigs, Is that right? If so you might want to check what the regs say about that. Sounds to me you got a lot of traps you cant use all the time. I can come to your state and use the daggers all the time! You may not: • place any set or sprung trap, snare, cable restraint, bait, or scent for furbearing animals during the closed season. This does not disallow the presetting of drowner cables. . From what your regulations say the only time there is any restrictions is while mink, muskrat, beaver and otter season is closed. Those restrictions include any trap that is set in water or that can be within reach of water. You may not: • operate trap sets which permit the trapped animal to reach water, except when the muskrat, mink, beaver, or otter trapping season is open in the zone you are trapping, or unless using a commercially manufactured enclosed trigger trap. Is that clear enough. As you can see your wrong on both counts. And I did modify some DPs with push pull triggers but did I say where I used them. And for your Info I only did that to about 2 doz. Keep on spinning Carlis.  |
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Post by thebeav2 on Jul 7, 2011 19:52:18 GMT -6
braveheart
Looks like a Duke Knock off LOL How much a doz?
You coming to the WI fall convention?
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Post by motrapperjohn on Jul 7, 2011 20:45:23 GMT -6
you better reread beav, If you rig your drowning rig before season I think it said it dont give you the right to use that location, I think is was in the paragraf about preseting stakes. I guess that means someone could beat you to your location move your stuff out of the way and put theirs in.. And no you are wrong you are the one that is restricted as I like my coon nice and dry. You must not know anything about my trap at all Gary, It can be a pull only anytime you want it to be. In about 3 seconds, in the feild! Did anyone ever tell you that you will argue with a rock if you though you could win. Like one other guy said a while back you must be on the Duke payroll. You just stated that you had 2 doz converted yet you trying to tell everyone that mine is illegal. Isnt it illegel to set any trap within 15 Ft from a beaver dam Except a foot encloser trap mine is legal, If you would be nice I might tell you how.Now got anything else to argue about. Oh one other thing, No 2, did you know mine can go 3-way with a little tuning. The other is something I didnt know till recently. It is illegal to manufacter or modify to infringe on any patented or patend pending product even if it is only for personal use. That should give you somthing else to grouch about. Whos spinning.
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Post by braveheart on Jul 8, 2011 5:49:59 GMT -6
I think my friend will be there with the trap.I would like to go myself but work gets in the way.It is priced like a Duke 139.00 a doz.
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Post by motrapperjohn on Jul 8, 2011 7:01:35 GMT -6
I guess braveheart is going to be working for me the next several years He can be expecting to be getting a letter pretty soon.
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Post by thebeav2 on Jul 8, 2011 9:26:36 GMT -6
I bet Braveheart Is just waiting In anticipation. LOl
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Post by motrapperjohn on Jul 8, 2011 10:07:48 GMT -6
Some just think that the only type of patent out there is a design patent. That they can just turn a stock trigger around backwards twist and grind and think they got something. If he would have done some research he could have found what type of patent mine was and when the app and claim was made. He says he has one filed if so he has my # as my attorny has his, his web address.
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Post by garman on Jul 8, 2011 11:40:06 GMT -6
Some just think that the only type of patent out there is a design patent. That they can just turn a stock trigger around backwards twist and grind and think they got something. If he would have done some research he could have found what type of patent mine was and when the app and claim was made. He says he has one filed if so he has my # as my attorny has his, his web address. Sounds like that is an arguement between the 2 of you. I wish you both luck in your guys endeavors. |
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Post by braveheart on Jul 8, 2011 12:05:02 GMT -6
Thanks for the offer.But I already work for another dealer.And plan on quitting my other job soon.
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Post by thebeav2 on Jul 8, 2011 12:49:40 GMT -6
Here we go. Pretty soon they will both be In court and none of their traps will be available for this coming season. I think this has the makings of another reality show Maybe we can get Larry the Cable guy to play the part Of Carlis.  |
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Post by motrapperjohn on Jul 8, 2011 13:45:41 GMT -6
Hey beav, do you stand in front of the mirror and argue with your self when no on else is around to talk to? I was wondering that because when ever you post on any forumn it always seems you are arguing with someone. I got traps to build.
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Post by thebeav2 on Jul 8, 2011 14:46:52 GMT -6
Here's page one of this thread.
Guess who stated the pissing match. Up until this post we were all just discussing our experiences with the DPs we use.
Yea I think the Beav is still po'd about me hammering on Bill Duke for coping everyones trap! Bill didnt seem to have any problem when I was razzing him the last 2 weeekends even when he was at my booth eating steamed clams! Hey Beav, I dont think very many people carry a power washer with them when checking traps! How many people have gotten videos on their game cameras and regular cameras of the COON cleaning out traps, not mice. I guess that was just one big ringtail mouse that was filmed cleaning out 4 traps they got while filming tha Management Advantage show. And as I stated before it depends on what bait you use. I like keep things fast and easy. Grinding up fish or useing a prepared type bait is way easier than cutting chunks to fit. And taking a spoonful of bait and dropping it in the tube is way easier and faster than having to spear it or put it under the trigger. Fast and simple.Braveheart, I still have a few cleaned most of the way out buy mice and did catch several this year. Also I tried to addressed the frozen ground deal. One can use a 3/16" rod that is driven into the ground and the trap slips on it. Cheap and simple.
The triggers are back on the market with a new smooth bolt that I had made speical.
eedup, they , the 2-way has been ran side by side with the standard pull trigger, with the same bait and it was over 2 to 1 that the 2-way out performed the other. Even a couple of the griz guys that was razing me so much last year had to fess up. If you guys want a # of the guy I was speaking of, pm me and I will give it. You can check out webisode 3 on the Managment advantage and see what Chuck Sikes has to say about them. Hes not even a trapper and can tell the difference
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Post by trappnman on Jul 8, 2011 18:11:31 GMT -6
i'm an innocent bystander in this one.lol
but intrigued enough to try a few daggers
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