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Post by blackhammer on May 19, 2011 21:39:33 GMT -6
Steven I would guess maybe 300000 I was told only about 70,000 carcass,but like you said I heard that from a fur buyer.It was interesting that Groenwold wasn't into this spring rat deal.His loss the way it sounds.Your right ,my take didn't flood the market.LOL
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Post by thorsmightyhammer on May 20, 2011 5:14:44 GMT -6
i didnt mean it that way paul
I only meant that with those five alone they caught a pile and its a cumalitive effect.
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Post by calvin on May 20, 2011 8:23:18 GMT -6
Steven I would guess maybe 300000 I was told only about 70,000 carcass,but like you said I heard that from a fur buyer.It was interesting that Groenwold wasn't into this spring rat deal.His loss the way it sounds.Your right ,my take didn't flood the market.LOL I know one very savvy fur buyer of about 40 years who told Wiebke he is going to lose his butt on these SD rats. He wants nothing to do with them. He/s been right when many others have been wrong. We/ll see. |
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Post by blackhammer on May 20, 2011 8:29:26 GMT -6
I know what you mean Steve.In thinking of the twenty plus people I know that were out there and I'm sure they all were from a thousand and up number wise.A few a lot more than a single thousand.If these rats are in the pipeline already or still waiting be auctioned I don't know.The receiving dates may have made it tough to get them in the May sales.I know one guy still putting up rats and I bet there our others who still have their rats too.
I bet the rats Wiebke bought are already sold.He's the savy buyer.
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Post by thorsmightyhammer on May 20, 2011 15:53:29 GMT -6
I was thinking about it on the way home today after the washout at work. A seven hour run gives a guy time to ponder lol.
I can think of 15 guys who can account for nearly 40 thousand rats this spring. Thats alot of rats.
A guy could have gotten a few rats on the may sale if he was really busting azz or had a skinner/stretcher lined up. If a guy would have had them in stoughton by the 23 he could have gotten them on the sale. Rats are graded here in the US so a later receiving was possible.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on May 20, 2011 15:59:38 GMT -6
I tend to agree on those lat spring rats, leather quaility had to drop off some and paying what some did? It will be interesting to see how many sell and how many are held over and then what when fresh rats come in this fall and winter?
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Post by thorsmightyhammer on May 20, 2011 16:02:12 GMT -6
They sold last year.
Why shouldn't a trapper expect them to sell this year?
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on May 20, 2011 16:25:13 GMT -6
I'm not saying many won't sell but at what price and total volume will sell.
Will be interested to see if they hit that 7.47 avg from last years May sale.
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Post by thorsmightyhammer on May 20, 2011 16:41:33 GMT -6
Well if FHA ever gives us any info we should be able to make an educated guess lol.
But i would say that yes.
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Post by blackhammer on May 20, 2011 17:46:18 GMT -6
Can't see why they don't upgrade their auction website.There a good company but at Nafa besides watching the sale you can check out the catalog as the sale goes and it is instant information.There site is hard to watch a sale on and basically no wild fur catalog the trapper can follow.
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Post by robertw on May 20, 2011 18:24:29 GMT -6
Would also help if they (FHA and NAFA) had a uniform grading standards / terminology so a shipper could compare equal quality lots of fur for price.
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Post by thorsmightyhammer on May 20, 2011 18:33:19 GMT -6
Robert it would be nice if the overall fur trade had a uniform grading and sizing standard.
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Post by calvin on May 20, 2011 20:38:34 GMT -6
I know I/ll have spring rats at the fall auction. Only a little over a quarter way through them and the next FHA pickup is already here. Have to wonder how much that will hurt me in the fall and also how many others in the same boat as me. I would venture to guess that most want them gone by now and have taken measures to do so, even if it meant selling on the carcass. I/ll just whittle away at them.
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Post by thorsmightyhammer on May 21, 2011 8:43:49 GMT -6
Why wait until fall calvin.
Talk to the boys down the road and see how long they are buying.
Otherwise its a pretty good gamble.
Do you need some more stretchers?
I could bring a couple hundred down.
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Post by calvin on May 21, 2011 10:31:03 GMT -6
LOL....a couple hundred? Appreciated...as I did have to borrow a few dozen stretchers from a buddy, but drying them in the dry/warm basement has benefits as far as drying time goes...especially with a fan on them. The smell isn't all that great, though. The wife about bought out Walmarts plug in air freshener isle...and the laundry smelling a little funky these days. She keeps asking "is trapping season about done?"...wait till I retire...she/ll toss me out for sure.
Taking a few to the man down the road tomorrow and shipping a few, too. I/ll find out tomorrow how long he/s going to be buying. Sounds like he wants to wrap things up as soon as he can, though. I/ll be stuck with "some" till fall, anyways.
Still waiting to hear the FHA sales report with clearances and averages. It would be nice to hear before a guy ships to the June auction. The Pickup is tomorrow, so I suppose the stats will come out Monday.
Anyone have any predictions for the June auction? Is it generally better or worse than the May auction? I suspect there to be a LOT more spring rats at the June auction.
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Post by thorsmightyhammer on May 21, 2011 15:44:17 GMT -6
doesnt everybody have a couple hundred rat stretchers?
I'd like to get another hundred this summer sometime. Know anybody that has some Quik Dry stretchers for sale?
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Post by calvin on May 21, 2011 18:42:24 GMT -6
Steven, is the term "quick dry" just any wire stretcher....or only victor wire stretchers?
Yes, I was somehow very-very off on how many stretchers I thought I needed....somehow. Still can't figure how I missed the obvious.
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Post by thorsmightyhammer on May 21, 2011 20:24:58 GMT -6
Quick dry is the victor brand. I kinda like them for some reason.
Like the duke's too.
If a guy plans on harvesting a pile of rats in a short period of time he is going to need a pile of stretchers if he wants to put them up in a hurry.
If you are catching 70 plus a day, catching, skinning and putting up becomes a tremendous amount of work, if you plan on doing it day in day out.
Better off to catch what you can skin and freeze and put up when the catch goes off if the numbers are there to do that.
If thats the case and than a guy wants to put them up in a short period it will take couple hundred stretchers.
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Post by robertw on May 21, 2011 20:51:58 GMT -6
Hilltop Cage Shop makes the best wire stretchers I have ever used. They don't sell them under any specific name but wholesale them to many of the trapping supply houses.
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Post by northof50 on May 21, 2011 21:27:08 GMT -6
Robert it would be nice if the overall fur trade had a uniform grading and sizing standard. Spent an hour trying to cross refer to what FHA 1-11 rats ment, thinking they were fall caught like NAFA standard Grade term.But they are not... Got the averages of the mink sale within 30 minutes of auction closing, Remember that Monday is a Canadian holiday.... heard that some guys dug a hole 30 feet deep in North Bay and they came to the direct conclusion that they have been wireless for 8000 years since the last glaciation period. |
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