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Post by Zagman on Apr 20, 2006 5:49:20 GMT -6
I have a truck gun that I need a scope for....looking for some help.
This gun will be in the truck throughout the year, banging around and such...
That's why its a Contender single shot, a short bull-barreled .223.
I get 4-5-6 cracks a year at coyotes while I am trapping....one shot is plenty.
Still, you know the drill.....see coyote....stop truck, try to get gun out and ready without looking at gun while looking at running coyote and rolling down window.....chaos.
Criteria:
Most shots about 100-150 yards...
I would like something durable.......if that makes sense.
Something that I can get on quick, i.e., as soon as the gun hits my shoulder, I can see through the scope....
Price is not a HUGE concern....I dont want to throw good money away, but not afraid to buy high-end optics if it makes sense.
The reason?
Part of the criteria is that CABELA'S must sell the scope.....as I have a pile of FREE money in points sitting there and would like to cash it in!
Any ideas would be great......right down to model number, size, etc.
Thanks
Zagman
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Post by CoonDuke on Apr 20, 2006 6:15:57 GMT -6
Zagman, I have the exact same question. Except my scope will go on a 22 mag... I also have a lot of points to spend at Cabelas.  |
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Post by Bristleback on Apr 20, 2006 8:46:14 GMT -6
Guys, for up close shooting.....150 yards and in and wanting quick target acquisition you'll want to stay toward the lower power of the magnification range.....2,4...possibly 6 power if you're good...LOL Point is the higher the power the smaller the field of view..FOV.
I have all Leupold Vari X lll on all my rifles, and they range from 1.75-6 to 6.5-20.........but my favorite is the 3.5-10....all are 40mm obj lenses. Mark, you know my background, I have all Swarovski binos and spotting scopes.....but have not seen the need to replace my Leupolds VariX lll....major difference in price as well.
I also wouldn't be afraid to put a Leupold Vari X ll on it, say a 2-7 or a 3-9........You can not beat Leupold's warrenty, even though I've never had to use it. I have sent in a few scope to change reticles and that is nice.
I personally like a variable power.....keep in on the low side and just in case you come around the corner and find a coyote out there mousing 2-300 yards away and not aware you're there...turn up the power, firm rest, deep breathe in......let half out and squeeeeeeeeeeeeeezeBANG DEAD COYOTE.
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Post by Mike Spring on Apr 20, 2006 12:37:15 GMT -6
I agree with bristleback...I used to due an awful lot a chuck hunting and own all Leopold's, great scope.6x is were I would be looking if I were you mark.
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Post by MadDog on Apr 23, 2006 17:26:09 GMT -6
I would go with a Leopold 3x9 power. I don't have any experience with the newer cheaper models that they have come out with the last few years but the old varix 2 and 3's are all I put on guns even 22lr. The key to that scope staying on zero is
1 Put a good scope on it. Possibly spending more on the scope than you did for the gun.
2 Good rings and mounts.
3 Lap the rings. You can do it yourself or you can pay to have it done.
4 Loctite the base to the gun. Also loctite the ring screws.
5 Buy a matte finish scope or apply loctite to the under side of the rings and when that dries it will create a non slip finish between the scope and rings.
Its no use to put a good scope on it a not pay attention to the mounting system. Use the loctite and be done with it.
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Post by bubcat on Apr 23, 2006 18:54:22 GMT -6
Goitta be out of Cabelas.....
That Swavorski 4x12x50 is a nice rugged scope....
Dollar for dollar....out of cabelas,
I'd go with the Leupold VX-III Rifle Scope 3.5-10 X 50 with illuminated reticule.
I like a little bit bigger bell for low light, and there is that 10 minute window.. dusk and dawn where the lit reticule can make all the difference.
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Post by jerrym on Apr 24, 2006 12:07:01 GMT -6
My primary truck gun is a rem 22-250 with a custom ultralite s/s barrel. Of course the whole gun is painted camo with krylon. And for a truck gun, the smaller power of scope the better. Bigger field of view and quicker to find the animal. I put a 2x7 Leupold on this rifle and am extremely pleased. All of my other varmit rifles have heavy custom barrels and big expensive scopes and just don't fit the bill for a window or calling gun. Too danged heavy!!!!!!!
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Post by markymark on Apr 24, 2006 16:50:03 GMT -6
I would get a Leupold VX-III 4.5-14x50mm Objective, better light gathering and will give you more view for getting off a quick shot. If it's going to be in your truck stay away from the high profile targert knobs. Yes I love them but when they get beat to all hell they will play havock on you.
A contender as a truck gun. HAHA I would much rather have bolt action mounted over head with the barrel pointing towards the driverside window. Keep a few rounds in the ashtray. As you work your rifle out the window the action will be open drop in a round and pop.
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Post by gunny on Apr 24, 2006 22:12:42 GMT -6
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Post by FWS on Apr 25, 2006 12:55:00 GMT -6
Leupold VX-III 2.5-8x, one of the toughest scopes on the market. I've had em' on 4 rifles that have all been banged around for years with no problems.
I'm not a fan of high magnification or large objective lenses for rifles that get used/carried a lot.
Matter of fact you could probably slap a Leupold 4x on that .223 and do just fine.
Funny thing is my variables are almost always on 4x anyways when I'm actually killing something.
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Post by bubcat on Apr 25, 2006 19:42:26 GMT -6
It's interesting ... this thread - I'm noticing two trains of thought on the objective/power. high/low and FOV
I'm also noticing something else... people talking about shooting out the window... a window shot... Here in NH, you can't legally shoot out the window of a vehicle, off a four wheeler, snow machine, or even lean over the hood. You can't lean a loaded gun against, or place it on, or in a vehicle... You have to get out of the truck to load before you can shoot...
Most places here, it's so wooded you can't see over 40 yds in the woods, on paper company land, a big clear cut is where we'd get a passing shot, and by the time you got out of the truck locked and loaded, 50/50 a coyote is pausing out at the 350, 400 yd mark looking back, thinking he's "safe", and I guess he might be with a 2 or 4 power scope.,,, with my eyes anyways! LOL
Just thought I'd throw in another 2 cents why I'd opt for the higher power scope. We wouldn't get many 100 yd shots on a chance encounter here.
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Post by mmwb (Andrew Parker) on Apr 28, 2006 9:17:47 GMT -6
Been doing a lot of research lately with a plan to buy a scope myself and have found that there are apparently a lot of good glass out there by several companies. What stood out for me was that two companies stood well above the rest in terms of owners' reports on the honoring of warranties and the ease of which any problems were dealt with (problems were few anyway with most of these companies on the high end glass). The two companies that stood out were Leupold and Sworavski. For a lot of us mere mortals Swarovski is a bit pricey but if you can swing it... I'll be putting a Leupold on .06 this summer.
Modified to correct spelling.
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Post by lb on Apr 28, 2006 15:56:19 GMT -6
You do not need a Swaravoski for four shots a year at running coyotes, and you don't need a 50MM objective. Variable power is nice for sighting in and the occasional shot at a distant coyote, standing still.
For my money, the most versatile scope on the planet is a VXIII 3.5X10X40, but reviewing your specs; I think a 2.5X8X36 would serve you well, if that is all you ever intend to do with it? By the way, regardless of model, almost all of my scopes are set at 5X, if that gives you any insight?
A Leupold is still a good value, with a bulletproof warranty.
Good hunting. LB
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on May 3, 2006 15:46:09 GMT -6
I'm with LB he runs the same exact scope as I have on my 22-250 and they can tak a beating. I also like the vari power I keep mine at 6 in open country. If needed I can take it to 10 or drop to 3.5 or 4 in open areas even a coyote at 100 yrds or less is pretty easy to pickup in the 4-6 power ranges.
Anything over 300 yrds I like the advantage of taking it to 10 for precise shot placement.
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Post by blakcoyote on May 4, 2006 21:14:11 GMT -6
I have a Nikon Monarch UCC that sits on my .243,it's a tough scope.I had a couple bad falls with it and it's always still dead-on.My caller partner uses Leupolds and would have to say the Nikon is a little brighter,and a comparable scope.Mines in the 5.5-16.5x44 A/O but a smaller one might be more suitable for a truck gun.  |
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Post by Wiley on May 9, 2006 20:28:17 GMT -6
I agree with Leonard with the Leupold Vari X III in a 2.5 x 8 x 36.
Leonard is right on the money, as usual!
~SH~
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Post by SteveCraig on May 11, 2006 7:35:36 GMT -6
All my scopes are 1.5 to 5 or 2x7 or 3x9. All Burris or the OLD Redfield's.
Clients want to know what rig to bring out here and seem really depressed when I tell them these scope powers and also a shotgun. They usually end up bringing what they want anyway, and it is usually a 6x18 or 12x 24 of some type. After a couple days of missing coyotes that are called to 5 to 50 yards, they are generally carrying my guns and start killing coyotes!
I abuse all my guns terribly during a season, and so do my clients when they use them. I have had no problems with these brands. Gary Reeder of the Pistol Parlor in Flagstaff got me off of Leupold and onto Burris many years a go, and I am glad that he did.
Just my opinion.
Steve
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Post by Cal Taylor on May 11, 2006 7:53:30 GMT -6
Damn Steve, I'm glad someone else has the same opinion as me. I have been Burris for 7 or 8 years now. I quit everybody else completely. I stick with the Signature Series or better grade, although I have a fullfeild on my sons 243 and it has been fine. I disagree a little on power, but I am in a different kind of country and while I don't reccomend the higher powers for anyone that doesn't look through a scope at something daily, I use them and like the higher power. For me when I shoulder a rifle and point it what ever I am pointing at is in the scope. But I have had hunters not be able to find an antelope or deer in their scope until I reached up and cranked their scope off of 12X or whatever they had it on. They often get grouchy when you go to fooling with their scope, but at least then they can find the animal we are trying to kill. The high end Burris are the only scopes that I have found that just won't change impact occasionally when subjected to being in a pickup gun rack on rough roads day after day all year long. I think any scope is pretty good when it spends 11 months of the year in a gun safe, but the difference to me is the ones that will handle abuse.
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Post by blakcoyote on May 11, 2006 10:31:51 GMT -6
Speaking of Burris,I really like there Signature Series Rings with the posi-align inserts,they work slick and I've never had a problem with them.
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Post by Stanley on May 11, 2006 11:10:49 GMT -6
I like this tread, I've learned a lot about scopes. You guys seem to know your stuff. My question is, what do you think of Zeiss scopes or bi-nocks? For my 40th b-day my wife bought me a Ruger 25-06 #1. I put a Zeiss,Conquest, 3.5-10x50 on it, Z-Plex. I have a pair of Zeiss bi-nocks 7x42. I just love them. Bought them down at St. Martin on our honey moon. She got emeralds.The gun smith that mounted my scope, spoke highly of the combo. Thank you.
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