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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Aug 22, 2016 19:34:24 GMT -6
Breaking news tonight more on Hillary and her lies, she stated many,many,many times she turn over all emails related to her job as Secretary of State now tonight we find out that well that is not the truth, they now have over 14,000 emails that where not turned over, after telling over and over and over agin her attorneys and herself gave them ALL back, then tried to blame Collin Powell that she did exactly what he did LMAO. He is now claiming he told her of his useage a year after she started doing what she was doing.
This is just getting worse for Hillary,they have until Sept 23rd I think to get through all,of these 14,000 emails. Good grief.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Aug 22, 2016 19:34:27 GMT -6
Breaking news tonight more on Hillary and her lies, she stated many,many,many times she turn over all emails related to her job as Secretary of State now tonight we find out that well that is not the truth, they now have over 14,000 emails that where not turned over, after telling over and over and over agin her attorneys and herself gave them ALL back, then tried to blame Collin Powell that she did exactly what he did LMAO. He is now claiming he told her of his useage a year after she started doing what she was doing. This is just getting worse for Hillary,they have until Sept 23rd I think to get through all,of these 14,000 emails. Good grief. Here is the meat of the issue. We shall see what happens. www.nytimes.com/2016/08/23/us/politics/hillary-clintons-new-emails-release-state-department.html?_r=0
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Post by redsnow on Aug 22, 2016 20:07:33 GMT -6
What was that chant that Sander's folks used?
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Post by trappnman on Aug 23, 2016 8:58:00 GMT -6
yes Bryce you can't be serious about needing facts to prosecute an alleged crime? what could you possibly be thinking? that's crazy talk!
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Aug 23, 2016 17:33:39 GMT -6
Tman that is what this is all about fact gathering as the story just keeps getting better and better on this entire issue. Their are people in congress that do not have the authority to see many of these classified emails, yet they where stored on unsecure servers and some people who do not have the clearance where allowed to see such?
She stated she turned over all classified emails all, meaning ALL then we find out another 15,000 exist that where not turned over? If this would have been anyone else on the right you would be calling for jail time, to say otherwise is not the truth. All the liberials know this and yet the main seam media has little about this what so ver, and Hillairy running for president is like a recluse when was the last time we heard from her?
She could save the tax payers a lot of time and money and just answer questions in a truthful manner and then we move on with the entire issue.
Don't tell me she was truthful, as she has back peddled a lot in recent days, she apologized to thr Americans people on the number of servers used, said she forgot, you where the secretary of the state and you forgot where all of your emails where at? Telling people time and time and time again one server!
Good grief.
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Post by bblwi on Aug 23, 2016 18:33:44 GMT -6
We get all in a dither over some e-mails by a person we hate and very little is said about internet security breeches and leaks believed to be completed by nations that have demonstrated that they don't have our best interests in mind. We also have a candidate who is cozy with working with military minded leaders that don't have our best interests in mind. He also states he wants to deport illegals just like Obama has done,(note he has done more than any the last 3 administrations that no one talked about) but then when he gets reprimanded for that he says we will build the wall even if the current plan is working better than thought and make Mexico pay for the wall! I can understand the dislike and hatred for Clinton by many what I don't follow is the support for someone with even less stability, principles of policies and business practices that use the fallback principles of bankruptcy and breaking commitments. I guess because filing bankruptcy is legal then breaking a contract or your word is not telling a lie in the eyes of many.
Bryce
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Aug 23, 2016 20:32:37 GMT -6
Bryce so your statement is what Hillairy did was no big deal at all? The fact that some of this classified information could be in the hands of our enemies because much was stored on a non secure server she stated never having in the first place? All is good to go? Really that is your take?
Bankruptcy versus national security and the lying of such? Those wash each other out? Do you know many Americans have filed bankruptcy in their lives? Do you know how many high ranking officials have left security breeches for enemies to look at out Intel and then lie about it? Betting a major difference if not we need to fire a lot of national people with security access.
For crying out loud, we all get reminders from our banks to switch passwords and not register our computers as a public domain and this lady lied about not having another Server and that none of the classified information was on such non exsisiting server.
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Post by bblwi on Aug 23, 2016 22:10:58 GMT -6
Never stated what Hilary may have or has done is not a big deal, just that in my opinion Others including nations are getting a free pass on security issues because we want to focus on one person and like it or not as much as she is disliked and or has done she looks more presidential than Trump does to many and we have the stubborn GOP rabid right to thank for that. This should have been a Sunday School Picnic for the GOP as they knew who the Dem candidate would be years ago and all the baggage she has but no they had to beat the snot out of each other trying to shift the nation further right then they wanted to go and now you have given us a candidate that in some ways is more liberal than Clinton, with less knowledge of how to lead a nation and with less ability to unite his staff let alone a nation. Firing people every 1 to 3 months probably scares millions more each day then the e-mail trail.
Bryce
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Aug 24, 2016 5:39:23 GMT -6
If what Hillary did allegedly at this point is a major deal why did you bring up trumps bankruptcies in the topic of conversation on her lieing about servers and emails?
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Post by PamIsMe on Aug 24, 2016 7:03:47 GMT -6
"Bryce so your statement is what Hillairy did was no big deal at all? The fact that some of this classified information could be in the hands of our enemies because much was stored on a non secure server she stated never having in the first place."
Really? I find it interesting that none of this email business was ever noticed during the 4 years Hillary was Secretary of State. Surely someone "important" would have noticed her email address, hdr22@clintonemail.com, and that it did not end in .state.gov? Why wasn't it questioned back then?
Her overall ratings and general popularity were very high during her time as Sec. of State (and as a Senator). She did a good job! It is only now, 3 years after the fact, during a year when she's running for President that all this was "discovered".
How many of us could set up servers that could handle and save many thousands of emails? The servers WERE secure, unlike the State Dept's which have been hacked. An IT person was hired to set things up. I seriously doubt Hillary knew any of the details, who would? That's why companies hire IT techs, their CEO's don't know either. I still don't think she intentionally lied, she just depended on her aides and IT guys to give her answers to questions which she personally didn't have (because she had nevern eeded to know), and she trusted that they were accurate. How would she know how many servers were used, how many emails were sent over the years, and why would she have cared? No one else did at the time. She had a little more going on during her tenure than wondering about details of her email system.
It's ALL just another of heaven knows how many attempts of the Repubs to discredit her. They're scared of her winning the election and and they should be.
Pam
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Post by trappnman on Aug 24, 2016 7:05:01 GMT -6
no, its no big deal. I could care less about the emails. I could care less about te foundation. pots some facts that lead to a crime- or shut up. this making up shite gets old. shades of 2012 when your rhetoric was the same. How did that work out for you?
the FBI said she committed no crimes and did not lie to them. so- again- either shut up- or produce facts congress couldn't find, and the FBI couldn't find. If you want conspiracy theories, we all know one site that allows in daily. But I'm getting tired out it.
Oh well, at least you aren't biting on the health issue- yet.
racist trump-some actual FACTS:
his companies are over $650,000,000 in debt- much of that to other countries including millions to China.
hes filed bankruptcy 6 times- and each time, as he himself said "I don't care what happens to anyone else, I'm all about Trump"
believe it.
He is.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Aug 24, 2016 16:19:40 GMT -6
Pam read the testimony given by Comey not all servers where secure, that is not opinion but fact. He called her extremely careless and I feel he didn't want the heat of charging her, yet this is not over. She claims to have given all emails over her attorneys went through each and everyone , all lies that has been proven again listen to the testimony. Again trying to convict in front of a congressional hearing is different than swearing to the truth , the whole truth which her written statement will be under.
Tman if you want to think Trump is a racist so be it, sounds mean and dirty I get that but simply not the truth , of that was the case why would employ people of color and other minorities? But racist is a tough label to over come and sounds great on voting day and the days leading up to such...........
Your worried about what Trump owes China? Even if the 100 percent truth, that concerns you but the billions if not trillions we as a country owe China is no big deal? Really?
So trumps private holdings owed to China is a far bigger issue to YOU, than what the USA owes them? Ok?
It seems you overlook everything Hillairy has done in her past and what our country has done with its past, but Trump is your sticking point? One man and his small fortune is the broken spoke on the wheel and it alone? HUM?
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Post by bblwi on Aug 24, 2016 21:52:24 GMT -6
I am not the one saying that Clinton lied, that will be determined by others that have more access to more data then we have. I brought up Trump's bankruptcies as they did occur and that is a sign of the type of practice he is willing to use to resolve an issue. I was a school board treasurer for 5 years, governments and municipalities pay their bills, even the ones that don't work out well. Governments don't have the luxury of taking huge risks and then walk away when it goes south. Hilary has a lot of baggage and many choose to not trust her as well as not like her but she persists and continues on as she shows remarkable ability to continue and stay on task. Trump has new campaign staff every time the polls go south. He also berates reporters and the media for their actions even when it is mostly their coverage that got him this far.
Bryce
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Aug 25, 2016 5:36:21 GMT -6
Bryce our country is $20 trillion in debt 20 trillion we are bankrupt the only difference is no one's called in our notes yet to date we cannot keep adding trillions and trillions of dollars to our debt without it some point having inflation crumble this country that has got to stop for the future of our kids and grandkids we can not just keep spending spending spending.
Our systems we have in place are taxed Heavly we must get a handle on this or debt will just keep rising and rising in Clinton has no plan to get rid of this her plan is to add more the cover-up will be an additional increase in taxes which will not even get close to what her spending will be I am sure on that.
Our country does not need to become more socialist that is not going to make us great and not pull us out of the issues we are in and they're facing
Hillary Clinton staying on task oh please her comments such as oh I'm going to put a lot of coal miners out of business or absolutely ridiculous her selective memory I'm very important security issues ridiculous not the sign of a great leader
Trump has a right to bash the media the mainstream media has been bashing on him since the very beginning to say that is not true it's not factual but we know what the mainstream media's agenda is it's not about being fair at all it's about keeping the liberal movement going I wish people could just admit the facts when it comes to issues like that.
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Post by trappnman on Aug 25, 2016 5:48:47 GMT -6
we have the debt we have, because Bush took us into 2 wars where he had zero plans to pay for them- so he borrowed the money, much of it from China.
the media made Trump- and now he is crying because he makes insane remarks, and the press reports them.
Trumps tax plan would raise the debt far more than Clintons.
THOSE are facts- TC would know a fact if it bit him in the arse-
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Aug 25, 2016 17:29:09 GMT -6
Tman just because you state it as fact does not make it so. Obama gets no blame form you because well your a Liberial, he has added to the debt by a lot along with congress and not all is war related , that is a fact! He also pulled out troops much sooner than needed so where is the cost savings? The next president will have to deal with ISIS because he is to weak to do so. He chokes on the word terrorist and claims we are safer now in the world than any time, that is pure BS no other way to put it. He and Hillary are remarkable lairs and tell not the whole story.
You will be blaming bush for the next 20 years as the debt explodes more and more, as democrats and yes some republicans have no sense of cutting spending and fat. Until we get real about it, the debt will continue to grow. Obama paying off Iran to the tune of 400 million plus does not help either, to a country we have sanctions against and could go to war with if they keep up on this nuclear stuff. Good grief man.
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Post by bblwi on Aug 25, 2016 22:36:41 GMT -6
The strong dollar and the continued investment in US T bills even at low returns says much about how many with real assets or those that want secure investments. Our nation is not bankrupt as these fund managers and nations continue to buy our debt as it is the most secure debt in the World.
Bryce
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Aug 26, 2016 4:51:59 GMT -6
Bryce how long can it be the most secure debt in the world ? If we keep spending far more than revenues brought in?
Trying to make interest off many investments in the US stinks and has for some time, CD's are a joke, savings is a joke, 401 Ks are a joke. Our market is anything from great under Obama. We been artificially inflating various markets for years and at some point inflation will have to play a part in the cleansing.
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Post by trappnman on Aug 26, 2016 5:56:43 GMT -6
facts?
heres is one:
The Iraq war has so far cost the U.S. about $800 billion — not including continuing payments to veterans — and it’s poised to be major driver of the deficit for years to come. Add to that the costs of the Afghanistan war and the Bush-era tax cuts for the wealthy, and you’ll account for almost half of the debt that the nation is set to owe by 2019
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Aug 26, 2016 19:08:24 GMT -6
Tman your occupy democrat info is pure and simple BS. Look at the deficit when bush left and what it is now under Obama and 800 billion is nothing to the tune he has accrude since being our president and I would like to see the source for 800 Billion set on Bush for the war. Show me the facts of such a number where is it resources from?
We will hear the same "IF" Hillary is ecleted you and the left will still be blaming bush 12 years after the fact LOL. When will Obama be held accountable for his spending and actions? Or Hillary for that matter. Gloss over the facts all together ...........
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