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Post by trappnman on Sept 5, 2016 17:26:44 GMT -6
I watched the entire hearing- and watched his news conference.
again, your facts never are-
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 5, 2016 18:52:54 GMT -6
Ok Tman you watched the entire hearing and you never heard that what she stated on various questions was nothing but a LIE? Wow.
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Post by trappnman on Sept 6, 2016 6:45:17 GMT -6
talk is cheap-
so me the actual lies-
I'd think you'd at least use google to give me an alt right list
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Post by trappnman on Sept 6, 2016 6:47:00 GMT -6
ps- can't find it now- but on another thread you stated passports weren't needed for Mexico- that's false,. perhaps you noticed that, and deleted that part of your post. in any case, passports ARE needed to come into the states from mexico- including on airplanes
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 6, 2016 16:05:44 GMT -6
Never stated such that is why you cannot find it LOL. I said illegals can come and go as they please really in this day and age and I as a US citizen need a passport to go to Canada or if I am caught they sure as heck are going to ask what am I doing there with no passport. I really doubt they are going to allow me to walk around free either.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 6, 2016 16:09:51 GMT -6
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 6, 2016 16:15:00 GMT -6
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Post by trappnman on Sept 7, 2016 6:18:37 GMT -6
yes TC- a lie is still a lie
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 7, 2016 17:16:50 GMT -6
Ok when will she apologize for the lies? If she did that how much more would that project her to the people?
The thing that drives me nuts is she doesn't have to because people allow her to get by with it, politics are becoming like a game, as long as my team wins doesn't matter if the call was missed here and there, win at all cost mentality. Scary when it comes to the future of our country and it is no sport for sure!
So if she is will to lie on many things, what stops her from telling lies as the POTUS? Also what could have been leaked from a very unsecure email system or systems she had in place? What further could come of this down the road? Say when she is prescient and we have an ATK on our soil and they stick it to us and say, " we got our Intel to cause mass destruction from YOUR presidents email server a few years back" ?
I have never found liars to stop being liars and then they lie more to,cover up more lies. I find this very alarming.
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Post by trappnman on Sept 8, 2016 6:53:04 GMT -6
what drives me nuts- is people that lie constantly- but never fail to point out lies by others
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 8, 2016 15:55:43 GMT -6
I believe they call that politics and people allow it to take place why?
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Post by trappnman on Sept 11, 2016 12:30:33 GMT -6
Why don't you answer that TC-
because the man you support, lies every time he opens his mouth. you allow it to take place, by repeating the lies
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 11, 2016 16:41:29 GMT -6
Again I am not one to state either candidate is the best of choices, they both have lied and some of them far bigger than others.
I am worried about the next 4 years given the choice we have in front of us and then I am looking to see what happens after the 4 years,
The lady you support has been lying for the last 20 plus years all the time in govt held positions and as First Lady to boot.
So where do we go from there?
ITrumps thoughts, I have my own on many subjects.
So why do those on the left cover up for Hillary?
Every time she states she is going to bring minorities out of poverty is a lie, the lett has been telling all minorities that for 30 plus years and it has never worked out.
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Post by James on Sept 11, 2016 20:03:21 GMT -6
Choice? Let's see now. . .
Possible WW III, or possible that Billy will fool around with some page in the White House?
Which is worse? What a dilemma!
Jim
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 12, 2016 18:50:48 GMT -6
James easy to make a statement where does the WW III facts come in at?
I could say far more terrorism comming Into the USA with Hillairy as a president we all know the Benghazi deal, we all know the unsecure server deal etc,etc.
Bill fooling around is a moral issue, so is hilliarys lies also moral but could also cost the US as far as being attacked with her leaked classified information floating about.
We jump from some stating Trumo is a racist and fool, to now he will be starting WW III soon after election LOL.
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Post by trappnman on Sept 12, 2016 18:55:56 GMT -6
Hes going to carpet bomb "Isis"
He asked- several times- "why do we even have nukes, if we can't use them"?
He is ok with Japan, S Korea, etc getting their own nukes
for every lie Hillary told- Trump has told a doz
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 16, 2016 20:25:48 GMT -6
Tman you really think trump is going to nuke anyone? LOL.
Carpet bomb ISIS if that is what it takes so be it.
You see we will never "talk down" ISIS and they have killed pelnty of people and in some very harsh ways. The left is war soft and they know it, we are at war with ISIS if not places like Europe and the US will see many,many more killings.
Remember where the ISIS strong holds are and why..............
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 16, 2016 20:29:57 GMT -6
Might want to hear it in context and not believe everything Hillary is telling you .
Donald Trump is "too dangerous" to have access to the nuclear codes, Hillary Clinton emphasizes in a new ad.
The ad features soundbites from pundits voicing concern about whether Trump is ready for the responsibilities of the presidency. Speakers include Michael Hayden, former CIA director under George W. Bush; Max Boot, a conservative foreign policy analyst; and Charles Krauthammer, a conservative columnist. (All have criticized Trump on some occasions.)
One clip features Gillian Turner, who worked at the White House National Security Council under George W. Bush and Barack Obama, talking on Fox News.
Trump "has been talking about the option of using a nuclear weapon against our Western European allies," the ad shows Turner saying.
We wanted to fact-check whether the Clinton campaign accurately portrayed Trump’s comments about nuclear weapons and western Europe. In our view, even though Turner made the statement, it was the Clinton campaign’s decision to pull the clip and advance its "unfit" argument.
Is Clinton’s campaign correct in saying Trump has considered using nuclear weapons against America’s western European allies?
Not exactly.
What Trump has said
The comment in question stems from an MSNBC town hall interview in March. Trump was asked by host Chris Matthews if he might use nuclear weapons.
Trump: "I’d be the last one to use the nuclear weapons, because that’s sort of like the end of the ballgame."
Matthews: "So, can you take it off the table now? Can you tell the Middle East we are not using the nuclear weapon on anybody?"
Trump: "I would never say that. I would never take any of my cards off the table."
Matthews: "How about Europe? We won’t use it in Europe."
Trump: "I’m not going to take it off the table for anybody."
Matthews: "You might use it in Europe?"
Trump: "No. I don’t think so, but — I am not taking cards off the table. I’m not going to use nukes, but I’m not taking cards off the table."
In the same breath, Trump said he would not use nuclear weapons, but he went on to say he wouldn't take it off the table for "anybody," include Europe.
He stuck by this phrasing in another interview on The O’Reilly Factor when Eric Bolling asked the same question.
"Europe’s a big place," he said. "I’m not going to take cards off the the table. We have nuclear capability. Now, our capability is going down rapidly because of what we're doing. It's in bad shape. The equipment is not properly maintained. There are all lot of talk about that. And that's a bad thing, not a good thing.The last person to use nuclear would be Donald Trump. That’s the way I feel. I think it’s a horrible thing. The thought of it is horrible, but I don’t want to take anything off the table."
In these two interviews, each held within a day of one another, Trump’s position on nuclear weapons overall and in Europe is convoluted. Yes, he hates the idea, but he doesn’t want to take the option off the table.
Experts weigh in
Experts we spoke to said Trump’s comments were a departure from previous rhetoric because they’re imprecise, but they noted his refusal to "take options off the table" is vaguely in line with U.S. policy.
Daryl Kimball, executive director of the Arms Control Association, referred to the 2010 Nuclear Posture Review Report, which focuses on preventing nuclear proliferation,
"Indeed, as long as nuclear weapons exist, the United States will sustain safe, secure, and effective nuclear forces," reads the report. "These nuclear forces will continue to play an essential role in deterring potential adversaries and reassuring allies and partners around the world."
Point being, there are some instances where the United States does not rule out using nuclear weapons, he said, which is why Trump’s "cards on the table" policy is somewhat in line with U.S. policy.
Jim Walsh, an international security and research associate at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, said he’s "seen nothing" suggesting Trump would use nuclear weapons against America’s European allies.
"What Trump may be trying to say is actually consistent with traditional U.S. doctrine, that is, we are prepared to use (nuclear weapons) to counter a Russian/Soviet invasion of Western Europe with conventional forces," Walsh, who is not a fan of Trump, said. "That's a NATO commitment."
The usual rhetoric -- that America would use nuclear weapons against Soviets to protect our allies -- is in line with what previous presidents have said, said Richard Nephew, a research scholar and program director for economic statecraft, sanctions and energy markets at Columbia University. It should be noted that Nephew said he is "repelled by Trump and his rhetoric, including around nuclear weapons."
"Previous presidents have spoken about the use of nuclear weapons to threaten the Soviets and others that might attack our allies," Nephew said. "They have talked about battlefield uses only in an extreme crisis and rarely spoken about tactical nuclear weapons at all (which would be what a normal president would be referring to: using nuclear weapons to attack enemy forces invading our Allies)."
After speaking to experts, we can conclude that Trump’s comments are vague, but do not translate directly into using weapons against our European allies. We reached out to Gillian Turner to hear how she feels about being used in the ad, but we didn’t hear back from her.
Our ruling
A Clinton campaign ad claims Trump has talked about the option of using nuclear weapons against America’s western European allies.
Experts said his comments on nuclear weapons are imprecise, but they interpreted his comments as vaguely aligned with U.S. policy, at least in the sense that America does not rule out using weapons to protect allies.
Trump never explicitly talked about using nuclear weapons against America’s allies in Europe -- but that he he is just leaving the option open.
The claim has an element of truth but is misleading, so we rate it Mostly False.
Share The Facts Hillary Clinton Democratic presidential nominee
Says Donald Trump "has been talking about the option of using a nuclear weapon against our Western European allies." in a campaign ad – Tuesday, August 2, 2016 SHAREREAD MORE
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Post by trappnman on Sept 17, 2016 7:04:13 GMT -6
saw this-
Carpet bomb ISIS if that is what it takes so be it.
and quit reading- one can take only so much silly this early in the morning
also didn't read your last post- no reason to
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 17, 2016 7:05:48 GMT -6
Yes I know the words on context just don't sound as good. Facts get in the way when Hillary speaks funny how this is a daily thing LOL.
The left is weak on terrorism has been for many years, we have Iran and we give them 450 billion dollars because of a last debt even though we have sanctions against them and they are trying to build nuclear weapons . What more does one need to say?
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