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Post by bblwi on Aug 26, 2016 20:41:39 GMT -6
There are a lot of decisions that the Obama administration made that I find fault with but his decision to continue to borrow monies to keep the economy going after the Bush Administration kept silent about the recession and then pandered to the Wall Street banks stating they needed to be saved. What Obama did was use funds to try and save the millions of Americans that were caught in the downward spiral created by the Bush Administration and yes he could walk away in early 2009 and not have to have all that debt on his name but he and his GOP friends have their finger prints all over that increased debt. What I don't understand is that many think that the government is the one overextended and in reality it is the private sector debt for many Americans that is the real issue. When you don't receive more income and cost of homes, autos, other big ticket items, college etc. and health care increase one needs to borrow or file to continue on. The more responsible ones are working on their budgets and trying to manage their debt the less responsible are doing like Trump file and walk away.
Bryce
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Aug 27, 2016 6:22:18 GMT -6
Bryce what about Fannie and Freddie? Who is at fault their Bush along by himself? Yes or NO?
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Aug 27, 2016 6:23:18 GMT -6
Bryce what about Fannie and Freddie? Who is at fault their Bush along by himself? Yes or NO? Who is at fault for the lending practices passed that caused a lot of this mess as well? Bush alone by himself? Yes or NO?
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Post by trappnman on Aug 27, 2016 8:00:29 GMT -6
once someone like yourself refuses to acknowledge fact, the debate is over. if fact doesn't persuade, what will?
google it
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Post by bblwi on Aug 27, 2016 11:53:14 GMT -6
So you are saying Bush had nothing to do with or no knowledge of Fannie and Freddie and that that was a Dem boondoggle? Maybe you can give us some good information as to did Fannie and Freddie cause the collapse of the large banks or did the private sector large banks create an environment that moved Fannie and Freddie too far into the marginal loan industry. Interesting that you selected what is known by most as a Democratic supported program and had no comment on the private sector banking practices, which shows the narrow scope of your views.
Bryce
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Aug 28, 2016 6:05:33 GMT -6
Bryce all had a roll in this, not just Bush by any means, congress as well. Frannie and Freddie where overseen by who? Who made the comment in congressional a hearings that they where stable and solvent? That was a lie. Plenty of blame to go around for sure.
Bush and congress people on both sides of the isle all had a hand in that mess. For those to run and hide and say see ai told you so is just wrong.
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Post by bblwi on Aug 28, 2016 11:53:37 GMT -6
So you discuss Freddie and Fannie and all the bad stuff they got involved in but no mention of the big banks who were feeding at the trough to get bailed out, thank you for that political clarification of your thought process.
Bryce
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Aug 28, 2016 18:48:52 GMT -6
Bryce what part of they all played a roll was not read in my response? The govt today is still helping the banks. Also we bailed our private auto makers as well, which could come back around sooner than later with all the auto debt being held at this time.
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Post by bblwi on Aug 28, 2016 19:00:08 GMT -6
I guess I was reacting as you typically do by not mentioning other aspects and highlighting those you don't feel are worthwhile. Also I find it interesting that you blame Congress for the executive orders by the Bush Administration as they were the ones that bailed out the private sector banks and then told Congress that if they did not there would be a collapse and there was one anyway but the GOP gets pats on the backs for doing their bailing out and the Dem's get barbed.
Bryce
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Aug 29, 2016 16:53:40 GMT -6
The dems in question should get barbed Barine Frank kept telling people on congressional hearings that Fannie and Freddie where solvent he knew the facts but would not report such. Again plenty of blame to go around I can list plenty from both sides of the isle if you would like?
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Aug 30, 2016 19:22:49 GMT -6
More trouble for Hillary could be fourth coming, seems there could be up to another 30 emails that where never supposed to be in the first place LOL, we shall see how ,Amy are duplicates or not? The well seems to be getting deeper for her? Time will tell.
Then we have the foreign guy that gave the Clinton foundation a lot of money who is linked to terrorism and is not allowed I issue the USA good grief, the Clinton corruption machine just keep churning along.
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Post by trappnman on Aug 31, 2016 6:17:33 GMT -6
TC- King of the Rumor Mill
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 1, 2016 18:19:44 GMT -6
We shall see if rumor or fact on the emails. The other is fact that is proven, she aligns herself with anyone who will give her money or a back door deal.
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Post by trappnman on Sept 2, 2016 6:51:43 GMT -6
The other is fact that is proven, she aligns herself with anyone who will give her money or a back door deal.
ok- back that up with reliable sources- or put the $20 in them ail
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Post by PamIsMe on Sept 3, 2016 0:14:29 GMT -6
"..she aligns herself with anyone who will give her money or a back door deal."
True or not, Trump is any different? Read the latest about his funneling campaign money ($25,000)through his foundation for the Attorney General of Florida who then just happened to not go after his Trump University? And got fined by the IRS? Google it lol
Pam
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 3, 2016 7:58:56 GMT -6
Tman look up Gilbert Chagoury it is all there to be seen. He was denied access into the US. The FBI has been watching this guy for years, he has donated million and millions of dollars to the Clinton foundation and ol bills election runs. He spent a pile of money in Africa making a place for uber rich people and ol Bill himself was their for the ground breaking. Also we shall see if the emails confirm that she did in fact while being sec of state have talks with him.
Sorry no 20 comming your way on this one.
The guy is not good and the clintons are tied to him. You can see many photo ops of them together. He has money laundering in his past among many other things, yet the Clinton keep ties with him.
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Post by trappnman on Sept 3, 2016 8:47:26 GMT -6
FACTS- so once again, you make a false statement, and cannot back it up with any fact whatsoever-
I'm starting to believe you simply have no concept of what is factual, and what you make up
PS- I didn't expect you to pay me $20- you'd be broke in a couple of days-
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 3, 2016 10:32:30 GMT -6
Tman it is there for all to see, again you choose to ignore everything shady about the clintons and Hillairy that is YOUR choice to ignore, but still doesn't change what she has done that is a FACT.
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Post by trappnman on Sept 4, 2016 6:06:21 GMT -6
Tman it is there for all to see
apparently not- since you can post nothing but your lets say biased opinion.
since its there for all to see- should be easy to prove it- or its just another rumor from TC, King of Rumor
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 5, 2016 11:26:21 GMT -6
Tman watch the entire hearings and what Comey responded to in answers. The facts are crystal clear, she lied. Direct questions with direct answers that can be proven. She was being dishonest, that and a trial far different.
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