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Post by trappnman on Aug 15, 2016 6:23:30 GMT -6
name calling seems to be his issue, does it not?
now, if he doesn't win PA, where he is behind by 11 points- he knows, and he means this 100%, and he is serious (all his words) that it means he was cheated out of the win.
how delusional is this man?
and now, the media is scum- even though the ONLY reason he won the primarys is because of the 24/7 news coverage.
the media hasn't changed- the erratic and yes, I'll say it STUPID remarks he has made over past 2 weeks, is why
now another letter, this time from what 70 GOP leaders to RNC. This all bad media? or, as Hawking said- a "bad man. A real bad man"?
and that Scottie that is his surrogate- lets just say her concept of the issues is about on par with my 5 year old granddaughters. a classic this weekend "I'm sorry, I just can't follow your logic" her answer- "I know"
day after day- Trump surrogates trying to defend him- sparkle the pony for God's sake!- defend him for 2-3 days on something inane "why do we have nukes, if we can't use then?". then its never mind, just a joke, just sarcastic, or best yet, he never said it.(dang video)
and his message (now)- tax cuts for rich (one of his proposals would gain the Trump family $4,000,000,000 dollars), send troops (30,000 seemed right to him) overseas, carpet bomb Iraq (who said a few years ago "pull troops out, declare victory, done deal lets move on"), and on an on.
so- someone- don't attack- defend Trump with actual support for a position.
I'd like to see it
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Post by redsnow on Aug 15, 2016 8:08:43 GMT -6
I'll agree, Trump is not your average politician. I think that is one issue that many folks find appealing. We're tired of the same old same.
The article that I took the quote from above, down in the story there were folks, that agreed that Hillary is not trustworthy. I think all of us can agree to that. You know, for a lot of voters, that is one very big deal.
You folks are following along with this election a lot closer than me, let me ask, how will Trump spend the 80 Million that his team took in during July?
Hillary is spending her money like nobody's business, last I heard Trump hasn't spent hardly anything. I'll guess he's going to spend it on 1/2 hour, time spots on the major networks. And come right into America's living rooms, and you will see him lay down the facts. And meet the real Donald.
He's in this deal to win!
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Post by bblwi on Aug 15, 2016 15:14:30 GMT -6
I think Trump got a lot of early support because he labeled people that his supporters have been against most if not all of their lives and they liked hearing that it was somebody else's fault they are where they are at. The support level grew a bit and he then became infatuated with himself even more and started to not only talk about hate, liars, and crooked and many started to realize he was talking about himself as well or anyone who did not agree with him that day or moment. Many started to realize that if it served his purpose he would throw anyone under the bus to get what he wanted. I think the NRA made the largest political error in the modern history by supporting him and a lot of candidates that they support strongly may have more issues in November than they were hoping to have. It is one thing to campaign against a Dem or liberal because you don't like them it is another to have much of your support group stay home because they don't trust either one.
Bryce
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Post by redsnow on Aug 15, 2016 16:35:24 GMT -6
Well, I don't know how this election will play out either. But for a lot of folks, the dislike for Clinton will sway a pile of votes to Trump.
Just my opinion, some folks underestimate the dislike most American's have for our government. We're ready for change!
I keep thinking about that one poll, that said 70% of American's say we're headed in the wrong direction. And Hillary offers more of the same! If that poll holds true until November, Trump will be President.
I also think, that as quickly as these poll numbers have changed, they can reverse just as quick. We're coming down to crunch time! And I figure Trump has an Ace up his sleeve!
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Post by bblwi on Aug 15, 2016 17:06:26 GMT -6
Keep that 70% poll in your mind while the nation makes a choice quite different than you are supporting and or hoping for. If anything Trump is helping many realize that politicians are not as lazy, crazy and worthless as many felt them to be. They have a self proclaimed billionaire who got a million dollars from his folks to get a start and he can't figure out how to do things without walking away leaving people unpaid, bills unpaid or needing to belittle people to make himself look better. Many middle class workers, myself included have multiplied our assets much further than he has done and we don't poke fun at those with less and we don't need to bash others to make myself look better. If Hilary gets elected then those of you that strongly support the hugely negative things about her and will put someone like Trump on a pedestal to be the poster boy for change and a better America may owe a huge debt to those who really have some strong conservative values that just got thrown under the bus and I don't blame Trump for that as he does it his way regardless, it is those that just out of pure hate will grab any snake they can.
Bryce
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Post by redsnow on Aug 15, 2016 18:28:28 GMT -6
Bryce, you and I will just need to agree to disagree.
I don't hate Hillary, I don't like her, don't trust her, don't care for her personality either! I'm not alone.
Just my opinion, it comes to a certain point, when folks are just tired of the system, that's exactly where we are now. And if the majority of our citizens feel that Clinton is dishonest or corrupt, would anyone be proud of our President? I don't think so.
I just read a report today, about all of the "missteps" under Hillary's handling of the deal in Iraq.
I've said this before, I'll give anyone a fair shake. Hillary has had her fair share, and she failed the test! Numerous times!
Whatcha want to do? Give her a chance to screw up again? Or give someone else a chance?
You know how I feel.
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Post by redsnow on Aug 15, 2016 20:14:49 GMT -6
Hmmm, now perjury charges against Hillary?
Anyone like to confirm or deny the charges?
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Post by PamIsMe on Aug 16, 2016 2:02:01 GMT -6
“It was so enthusiastic and so energetic you could feel it in your body. It gave you chills.”
Pretty much exactly how Democrats felt during and after the DNC convention :-)
I watch snippets of Trump's rallies and they give me chills, not of enthusiasm but fear that there is even a slight possibility that someone like him could get elected President.
Cheers, Pam
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Post by redsnow on Aug 16, 2016 9:11:09 GMT -6
I see where Clinton's name was on the front page of the Harrisonburg, VA paper this morning. Not sure what their circulation is? But it's front page news, about the perjury charges.
Also see where Trump made page 2 news in the Cumberland, MD paper, seems he was in PA.
Bad press for Hillary.
Good press for Trump.
Pam, I honestly believe there is more than just "a slight possibility" that Trump will be President!
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Post by trappnman on Aug 16, 2016 9:18:54 GMT -6
red snow- it truly comes down to 2 things for me
1) I AM a progressive, so the Democratic platform is the one I like, and want to see put into play. I feel the exact opposite about the GOP platform. which has been called the most conservative one yet by the GOP. Many things in it, go 100% against my core principle and beliefs- and as anyone that knows me, and knows my history knows- I don't change principles for love nor money.
2) I believe Trump is unbalanced, in a very literal way.
so- if it comes down to skirting the truth, vs unhinged-
the choice is easy- and the the majority of the rest of the country is seeing it that way- every day polls come our showing Trump further behind-
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Post by bblwi on Aug 16, 2016 16:21:26 GMT -6
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Post by redsnow on Aug 16, 2016 17:20:22 GMT -6
I'd been wondering where you folks get your "news". Politicus!
Maybe law enforcement folks should have warned Hillary about lying under oath! She's guilty!
I guess "skirting the truth" sounds better? She's still guilty!
This game isn't over yet.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Aug 16, 2016 17:21:35 GMT -6
Tman if you don't align yourself in any way,shape or form with the GOP, then exactly what are your beliefs and views On common issues?
Also what is a progressive exactly?
PS Did you get the, " trump for president" yard sign I sent you ?
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Post by trappnman on Aug 17, 2016 7:52:06 GMT -6
TC, you get zero answers from me, since you consistently and constantly declined to answer any of mine last time you posted on this thread- so
redsnow- your opinion as judge and jury- is more informed than 9 congressional hearings, at $20,000,000 in taxpayers expense that found nothing, and the FBI which found nothing to indicate charges should be filed?
the GOP has put 99% of their time and energys and millions and millions and millions of dollars to prove she broke the law- all to no avail.
meanwhile- trump wants to ban certain religions, Trump asks why do we have nukes, if by god we can't use them, trumps tax plans give billions in breaks to his family and other billionaires, trump won't release his taxes cause he is a fraud, and the returns would prove it, trump wants to be putins butt buddy, trump calls women pigs and says they look better on their knees, trump can't debate- instead resorts to 3rd grade insults. trump says hes suffered plenty for the country by hiring people-
good grief- the man is an idiot!-
trump no only ahead 6 in TEXAS of all places- down double digits now in florida-
Trump conned some of the people all the time in the primarys- but trying to fool all the people, is...well, you tell me how its working out- WITHOUT any of the swing states- Clinton has almost 280 electorial votes- and trump is BEHIND in all the swing states- plus is LOOSING multiple states won by McCain and Romney-
apparently- and this comes under the "go figure" category- that if you insult women, Hispanics, blacks, religious minoritys, those people don't want to vote for you.
there are only so many white men without college degrees to pander to..........
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Post by redsnow on Aug 17, 2016 9:23:33 GMT -6
Well, don't know?
If and when a person lies under a sworn oath, you've committed perjury! There is no if's and's or butt's about it!
I've watched the side by side videos of Clinton under oath, she lied.
According to Webster: Full Definition of perjury : the voluntary violation of an oath or vow either by swearing to what is untrue or by omission to do what has been promised under oath : false swearing
Perjury is nothing to sneeze at. As far as the $$$ being spent, does anyone assume the Democrat's would have just forgotten the whole deal, if it would have been a Republican that committed the same crime?
This story is still moving along, and to me it's unacceptable to have a double standard. Clinton is not above the law.
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Post by trappnman on Aug 17, 2016 9:27:57 GMT -6
Bush deleted 22 million emails from a secret, private server
where was your outrage?
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Post by bblwi on Aug 17, 2016 9:52:54 GMT -6
If you are job hunting. Trump's campaign has openings again. No real experience needed, all you need to do is support all of Trump's statements and retorts and bash Hilary. This may be harder to do than most thought as there has been a house cleaning twice in a few months. I know many of you want change but if you want a revolving door by the minute don't count me in.
Bryce
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Post by redsnow on Aug 17, 2016 11:11:28 GMT -6
I don't recall the deal about Bush's emails. I assume there were no crimes committed. Or there would have been an outrage.
But I get the impression that some of you think Hillary is better than the average person, that's BS. She's not above Federal law.
My way of thinking, if she's committed a Federal Crime, I'd never consider voting for her. That deal isn't over yet!
Well, Trump is new at this game, it's just a matter of time before he gets things fine tuned.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Aug 17, 2016 17:24:37 GMT -6
Tman no answers you should be able to answer quickly what is it YOU stand for? Hum?
What religion does trump want to ban exactly?
Here is the thing with democrats, liberials , progressive what every you want to be called today, inner cities have been voting for the left for many,many years and what good as come to those in these cities? Nothing, not one thing that shows progression of moving ahead, the same areas, have. The same issues and the same oppression not for 2,4,6,8, or even 10 years but many more. So why do they keep voting for the same ideology of kings never truly get better? Mind boggling.
Yet we hear the same montra every election cycle, the rich will take away this,that or the other, they have nothing, have had nothing for many years and the left keeps them from such, to think even for a second the left tries to give these people a leg up is without fact or merit.
We hear a lot of black lives matter, yet who is caring for all the black lives lost daily across this country of black men shooting other black men? I live close to KC shooting every day, not a one of the black lives matter is here trying to make a true difference, no instead they want to burn Milwaukee down because a black police officer shot a black thug with a gun mind you and they have the audacity to call this police officer racist ? How can anyone of these people be taken at face value really? Mind boggling.
Tman I would figure white men with a college degree would certainly not be voting for another Clinton?
Bushed email was a different deal all together but you keep posting occupy democrat nonsense all you like. She lied and none of you have the balls to admit such, but try and twist and distort what she did, the head of the FBI and the hearing committee knows she lied, except for those with blinders on, she could kill a person in cold blood on Pennsylvania Avenue and you would all have her an excuse or aliby all planned out. Mind boggling.
If you don't want to answers questions in relation to your views, then will you answer this? Name 5 things that Hillary will do for this country that will benefit the majority and not the minority?
Obama and his lame attempt on more gun control, the man looks everyone in the face and tell us he is not trying to take out guns, yet wants any gunsmith who does any work to now possess a license that mean he is now a gun manufacture? What a lying sack , like telling the auto mechanic that fixes your car he is now a auto manufacture or dealer. The left is something else no doubt about it.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Aug 17, 2016 20:21:21 GMT -6
Clinton it seems just like other democrats has a large laundry list of increased spending and she will do so by socking it to the top 1 percent and corporations? HUM?
Leaning towards socialized health care? She would need Congress for that. Wanting 350 billion for college tuition ? Hum she will need congress for that, spending 275 billion on infra structure, again congress and falls super short of what the civil engineers across the US says will take 1.6 trillion to do.
Adding a program of govt backed health care option? Where is that money comming from and the exspense annually?
She supports a 12-15 min wage per hour as well. All fluff.
Where going to sock it to the job creators and make them pay wages double what they are and where going to add millions of jobs? OK the pie in the sky will fall tomorrow as well.
Automation will eat up a lot of jobs we have seen this happen for many years when the cost of people get too high.
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