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Post by coyotewhisperer on Aug 13, 2006 18:54:46 GMT -6
Seldom can you post a pic of your stabilizing system?
Thanks Jeff
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Post by JLDakota on Aug 13, 2006 22:57:10 GMT -6
Musher, I haven't seen it mentioned so I'll throw in a comment on removing the rivet and replacing with the spike or 1/4" rod. Years ago, I did a couple dozen 110's with the "bolts" and found they had applications which made the mod's sometimes benificial and justified doing it. I also quickly experienced that when the bolt was stuck vertically in the ground on a land trail set with the resulting horizontal triggers, I had several buck mink, yearling on up that were still live in the traps with vaying degees of "water heads". The flop circle showed they deserved a better fate. The jaws slapping them on the sides of the neck obviously didn't result in their timely death. In my case, after I made up my mind the live waterheads weren't just a fluke, I have never used them with the bolt vertically above ground since. Horizontal bolt above ground into the side of a bank or undercut resulted in dead mink. Vertical bolt did kill rats in land application in my observation. IMO, any "bolt" set vertical or horizontal involving water would result in a dead mink but my recollection of incidences involving the bolt and water evades my memory now. Lastly, these were new traps, and probably Victors and I expect any 110's with a few seasons on them or any weakening of the springs would result in similar or worse to what I experienced using the bolt horizontal on land trail sets. FWIW, JL
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Post by raynard on Aug 14, 2006 2:24:16 GMT -6
Off topic, but gotta go with Gary to the Markymark fan club sign up. Gary knows where I'm coming from.
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Post by musher on Aug 14, 2006 4:59:28 GMT -6
Thank you for the input. I'll be using the 1.5's on rats. I think that I'll let the 110's get some use before altering them.
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Post by Drew on Aug 14, 2006 5:09:18 GMT -6
Musher...you might want to do a couple traps with the carriage bolt trick. I did up a half dozen and they do have there use in certain spots.
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Post by gcs on Aug 14, 2006 5:53:58 GMT -6
Well I never got around to doing the bolt/rivet thing, but did play around with some of Hal's ,spike through lath stabilizers,(before I fired him). The spike wouldn't hold in my, and I expect most conditions. I just use lath wedged between the spring now, and that works as good as anything else I've found.
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Post by bnolan on Aug 14, 2006 10:31:40 GMT -6
Instead of using the nut and bolt, has anyone tried the Bershire 110 Stabilizer? Looks like they might be a little more stable.
CHT
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Post by oldmink on Aug 14, 2006 10:34:19 GMT -6
I use 2 sticks, 1 down through the spring eye and the other angled through the jaws. Works as well as any.
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Post by Freak( Jim V.) on Aug 14, 2006 11:24:02 GMT -6
Same as Old Mink for 110s .Simple and effective. Marky , you never mentioned your feelings for old Hal. Lost all respect for him when I approached him several years back at a convention.
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Post by BK on Aug 14, 2006 12:20:05 GMT -6
That's too simple OM You gotta wanna modify something, get some more weight and expense involved here instead of making another set , What are you thinking about? What page are you on?
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Post by oldmink on Aug 14, 2006 12:59:39 GMT -6
What are you thinking about?
I'm thinking about certian underwater holes. ;D
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Post by BK on Aug 14, 2006 13:31:37 GMT -6
Would those be the same kind you and I make a trench with our boots leading up to them? And fresh it up when we check our sets to make it look like rats are using it? ;D I don't have a clue that your talking about,............. YOU let the cat out.
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Post by oldmink on Aug 14, 2006 13:52:10 GMT -6
I don't have a clue that your talking about,.............
Yeahhhhhhh, right. I had more in mind on the high outside bend of a creek ...........
If they have no bread, let them eat cake. I can't tell them everything.
Why don't you tell them what they can do with a #10 can? The truth? They can't handle the truth.
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Post by Steve Gappa on Aug 14, 2006 14:07:50 GMT -6
wow oldmink- YOu invented the can? I knew you have been arond a while,...but holy moly...
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Post by jwr64 on Aug 14, 2006 15:47:31 GMT -6
Just what can you do with a #10 can???
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Post by oldmink on Aug 14, 2006 16:05:14 GMT -6
Just what can you do with a #10 can???
Well all I know is BK has been seen wading in the River by his place putting #10 commercial sized cans down in the water. I heard they face downstream.
Maybe he will give us an explanation.
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Post by thebeav2 on Aug 14, 2006 16:28:19 GMT -6
When we were kids and needed craw fish we would take cans and place a rock In the can crush down the opening part way and then place them under water along the lake shore or stream banks. Come back next day and start harvesting craw fish. Never used them as a trapping aid.
We also used slack lime and carbide for harvesting other critters.
Gary
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Post by thebeav2 on Aug 14, 2006 16:31:13 GMT -6
Thats where BK hides all his money he don't trust banks. LOl
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Post by BK on Aug 14, 2006 16:42:05 GMT -6
I don't have all the bugs out of that one yet OM. ;D I did figure out a 5" black plastic pipe elbow with an inch of sand or mud in the bottom is a better deal. One end can run parallel to the bank and the other sucks in critters traveling more in the center of the stream. No crap on the trap to deal with and they can't see the end of the opening............... I doubled with it once,..... but it does have a down side too. You read it here first.
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Post by jwr64 on Aug 14, 2006 17:03:30 GMT -6
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