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Post by coydog on Jan 28, 2005 18:29:24 GMT -6
Comments welcome.
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Post by trappnman on Jan 28, 2005 18:32:43 GMT -6
I use coyote galnd lure as one of my rotation of my "second line" of lures that I use. Maybe 1 set in 5 gets coyote gland lure.
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Post by briankroberts on Jan 28, 2005 18:43:09 GMT -6
I use it at about every other location after I have made a catch, I put in a very well blended set just outside the catch circle and lure with a turd and a small amount of gland lure, I catch several like this.....B.....
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Post by chessiepup on Jan 29, 2005 14:29:15 GMT -6
I use it at about every other location after I have made a catch, I put in a very well blended set just outside the catch circle and lure with a turd and a small amount of gland lure, I catch several like this.....B..... that was my big epiffiny this year, thought it was my secret,or as my son and I called it "the super secret $hit set" LOL
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Post by uptrapper on Jan 29, 2005 18:58:39 GMT -6
I use coyote gland and urine alot at scent post and I find it outperforms my dirtholes set close by probably the way I make dirtholes
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Post by timwilcox on Jan 30, 2005 15:49:04 GMT -6
I have never used a coyote gland lure, but have used many fox gland lures with success.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Jan 31, 2005 11:40:00 GMT -6
I use coyote gland lure all times of the year, alot more during Ealry fall, August and Sept, then quite a Bit from Jan-march. Paired up coyotes and those that don't have a mate at this time of year work a set well with gland lure, I like carmans and Fur countrys coyote gland lures the best, also use some ogormans as well, I like the pasty gland lures better than liquid, I use them in different ways, at a flat set, I'll use urine and gland lure, urine on the backing and gland lure on a small cow pie by the 6 oclock postion, really gets them coyote stepping around and in the trap! Young pups in early fall are easy to lure in with a gland lure it holds a high interest to them as well.
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Post by Zagman on Feb 1, 2005 9:27:27 GMT -6
Early on, I use 100% fox smells, both gland and urine.
Mostly, this is just a way of simplifying things for me and speeding things up....
Later, after deer season, I go to more coyote smells, both glands and urine, along with bobcat smells.....especially if I am using old sets and/or setting farms I trapped earlier, mostly to throw them something different.
But since I trap mostly early, coyote smells are at a small minority of my overall sets.....
MZ
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Post by Bubber on Feb 1, 2005 21:08:36 GMT -6
I use a gland lure a lot. Not every location, not every other location, but often. Use of food lure, curiosity lure, and a gland lure are a nesseity.
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Post by Stef on Feb 2, 2005 10:45:17 GMT -6
I like using coyote gland lure.... I may use more fox gland lure but in general... At a location, I use soon or later a set with coyote gland and coyote pee.
And as far as I can remember in my catch... I catch some nice big coyotes using well blended scent post lured with yote glands and pee.
Stef
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Post by guidestick on Feb 3, 2005 22:49:40 GMT -6
Gland lures are a very important tool on the trapline. Once a coyote has become irritated with an intruder in their area they become more prone to end up in one of the sets be it the scent post or other. I have played around with good gland lures all months of the year and kept good records to come up with my theory. The more milling around a coyote dose the better, and if you want a coyote mad put some gland lure and pee on a bush, especially in the late summer and early fall months. If you know where there is several groups of coyotes working on a large kill or dead animal dumping ground get out and walk around to check out all the kick backs and scent posts. Just my opinion.
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Post by coydog on Feb 5, 2005 19:14:10 GMT -6
For those of you that "wouldnt want to trap without it" ,......why? Are you speaking a certain time of year , or always? For those that seldom use coyote gland lure, ....have you really tested it? ? Thanks!
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Post by trappnman on Feb 6, 2005 6:30:04 GMT -6
the reason I don't use coyote gland lure more is simple- I prefer a good curiosity call lure.
I use fox gland about as much as coyote gland.
Doesn't a remake already have plenty of coyote gland smell?
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Post by bobwendt on Feb 7, 2005 12:39:04 GMT -6
oh boy, I never use coyote gland lure, at least not anal based as it actually repels coyotes, i.e. their reluctance to enter catch circles till after several days of cool down. If used must be in ever so tiny amounts, like a 1/2 drop. red fox, the opposite, gland sucks trhem up like a vacuum. Didn`t you guys ever wonder why a catch circle is hot for fox and cold as death on greys and coyotes? Whatr books you guys been reading anyway? My guess is that if gland worksd well for you that it is cut to the nth degree or pee based with little or no anals at all, in other words, not really gland lure. It`s one thing to do nothing to actually run the coyote off but another to actuelly repel him from working your set. Either I`m whacked or you guys that use coyote gland regularly and liberally are, one or the other
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Post by trappnman on Feb 7, 2005 12:53:10 GMT -6
now Bob- don't be shy..if you have something to say...say it... LOL
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Post by coydog on Feb 7, 2005 13:12:27 GMT -6
Hmmmm
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Post by bobwendt on Feb 7, 2005 13:36:48 GMT -6
I guess a lot is in the definition of "gland" lure. in my mind that means anals and everything else is fluff. A good anal based coyote gland lure is death in the 1/2 drop on a turd set but about the worst thing a guy could use ,liberally ,at a standard dirthole. Alot of the day in day out western adc men in sheep country use nothing but tainted prairie dog in dirt sets thru the summer months. I once had the county guy give me some prepared bait he said he used all the time. Ha, I just threw it away knowing why would he give me his favorite bait when he had to clean up my leftovers after I left. I figured I was doing me a favor, or him a favor , or maybe both of us. We are still on good terms but only because I always defer to him on coyotes out of professionalism, i.e. tell him of any coyote sightings or sign and the locations of all the coyote dens I find. He rubs my back too on the red fox so what goes around comes around..
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Feb 7, 2005 14:14:08 GMT -6
Bob I have never seen this to be the case on my sets? In mud or snow? I haven't seen the reluctance you mention. I have a theory, those glands secreate differant hormones and levels of those hormones at differant intervals, depending on what is happing in that coyotes life at the time. At a remake sure, you probably get some hormones that of the warning type, I think it is the torn up local and hormones in combination, that throw out the do not approach signal.I have also had areas that have caught up to 5 coyotes out of the same set and torn up location. I feel coyote gland lures, once removed from the dead coyote, ground and mellowed don't have near the reaction you talk about versus a fresh remake with those smells comming from it. I likin it to BO, some have it bad while others do not. They say differant foods and stresses cause differant odors and levels of those odors, coyotes why not the same way? After a cooling off of the set location, you can/do begin to pick up other coyotes in those remakes. I also notice a higher % of rear foot holds when using gland lure on a flat set. At dirtholes, it is never used down the hole off to the side or backed up with a turd and a shot of gland lure. I have no problems in this matter.
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Post by bobwendt on Feb 7, 2005 15:05:29 GMT -6
I too have caught a few coyotes, sometimes 4 or 5 back to back in the same sets every 24 hrs, a few times in 5 minutes on a dead head back out. BUT, that is not the norn. Norm is 3-4 days cool off on the fresh catch circle. I haven`t got 3-4 days so always put in a fresh set 6-8 feet from the old ring ( re-setting it too). Often have seen 6 or more rings in a row and the fresh set is the one that always catches. Back foot on "gland" sets? I`m guessing more pee than anals in that "gland", causing the pee responce and back foot catches. Grind some anals and lure up heavy and I bet your skinning knife gets very little use. Coyotes can only be generalized, no specific statements, so I stand with my generalized statement that coyote gland lures see almost no use on my line except in nano micro doses as sucker sets for smartys. My standard is bait down the hole with pee on the backing and no lure of any type. I probably use blind sets more than gland when the standard doesn`t get the few flaky dudes. I guess just difference of opinion that we have, more than likely what I mentioned earlier- different definition for "gland" lure from maker to maker.
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Post by coydog on Feb 7, 2005 15:20:59 GMT -6
Do you feel the same about fox glands Bob? for coyotes
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