TRue or False: Coyotes are easier to trap....

[trappnman]

....when they are travelling then when they are at home.

True or False? and why?

Does this statement play any factor in choosing locations.

[yottey]

;DTrue during fall dispersal when the young of the year haven't perfected thier hunting skills yet! It's much easyer to catch a hungry youngster! yottey

[BK]

I don't know what you mean by home? Does traveling mean looking for a new (home) ?

[Traveler]

Well.......I think he's a bit easier to catch traveling than at home.Some coyotes are more spooky of ANY changes within there home range.Piece of bone,chunk of dead wood that wasn't there yesterday etc. ;D

[trappnman]

To define it a little:

home means core area, secure area- the main "hangout"

travelling means from area to area OR on the fringes of the coyotes home territory OR neutrap (social areas).

Dispersal yes- but all year?

[yottey]

Even in there core area most yotes will check anything new placed there . the main thing is to be carefull with the amount of human sent left at the site when in core areas! it also depends on how often your yotes comes tru some places they come tru every nite or 2 ;others it could be a week or more between visits!When you spend less time making your set you leave less sent !yottey

[dj88ryr]

It would make sense that the traveling yote would be easier to catch, because he may not be as familiar with the travel route as he is his back yard. But, and as T-man says, always a but....they may be able to be patterned easier in their core area. Depending on available food, they may be much easier to catch in the core area, in my opinion.

[Clefus]

Better get some lawn chairs for canine day as I think my amount of questions for then are multiplying exponentally

[NittanyLion]

DJ88RYR said:

It would make sense that the traveling yote would be easier to catch, because he may not be as familiar with the travel route as he is his back yard. But, and as T-man says, always a but....they may be able to be patterned easier in their core area. Depending on available food, they may be much easier to catch in the core area, in my opinion.

DJ..This is a true or false question, not multiple choice, now what the hell is your answer.

[dj88ryr]

6 of one, half dozen of another ;D ;D ;D

[NittanyLion]

DJ...Are you running for a political office?

[briankroberts]

I think he's easier cause he's out of his element.

I find that if I've removed several Coyotes from an area and I come back in in a few weeks I can pick a couple off pretty quick and if its a major travelway they just keep coming.....B.....

[BK]

For shure yottey nailed it in regard to the pups on the move.
I tend to wonder if coyotes in their home range may be more territorial and easier to take advantage of in that aspect.
Perhaps one in unfamiliar territory would be more skittish.
But to be honest............I don't know.

[Stef]

tman, I've read in research papers that coyotes will invistigate sets quicker and work them hard when those sets are located at the boundaries of other packs of coyotes.

I explain a little more.... if you have in front of you on a paper 2 square blocks and let say that on both blocks, one corner are on top of the other block. In other words, a little part of familly "A" is on the territory of familly "B".

This is the ultimate "MACRO" location but i believe that you need to know your trapline very well to be able to locate those supreme locations.

Stef

[woody]

AW! Stef, lets go of his best kept secret ;D other then his lures ;D

I don't know if I can aswer the question or not. since I only have 3 yotes under my belt ;D

I think if they are hunting for food and come across a set and everything is the way its suppose to be, I.E. food bait or lure in hole and the set has the proper guiding, I think the answer is YES, they are fairly easy to catch. the same can be said for a territoral stance. you put in a post set and put urine on it from some other songdog, and here he comes, he's going to stop and put his sent on it saying I was here. and if all the cards are right, wham he's cuffed and awaiting your arrival. ;D I feel this relates to Adult and Juveniles.

So I vote YES, but like I said I am a newbie to K-9 trapping might be wrong. woody

[bubcat]

He's easier to catch in his core area. (to a point!) (the first five come easy, The last two, might be not so easy!)

Driving home from work (travelling) you make a casual observation of a neighbors house being painted. I said casual. a glance.
But when you pull into your driveway and notice "your" house has been painted - you're going to give it your undivided attention. Same with a coyote when you plop a set in the middle of his living room. It's definitely going to get more attention.

Next question, "travelling" coyotes. Are they easier to catch, "coming" or "going"? ;D

[bblwi]

I am not a large numbers canince trapper but I would certainly expect the following
The more secure you are in your home the less likely to be nervous, investigative and or aggressive. YOY the year on the move or coyotes working their routes that are in multi- yote territorial areas and or boundaries will be more likely to investigate new scents, etc. To me setting up the maximum # of areas that are major travel areas and or family boundaries would yield the most yotes with the least locations and thus be the most effective way to take higher numbers in less time. Defending a home area is a whole different behavioral mechanism than aggressively checking out all areas of less traveled ground and or new area.

Bryce

[vttrapper]

True,

frank

[yottey]

;D stef the intersections of home ranges for different individual or family units is allways a hot spot instead of having a shot at 4-6 yotes your are able to double the amount of critters that will work the sets!Love that principle especialy for cats! Heres another case senerio 5 yotes ma, pop and the teens in the core area of the home range you catch 2 youngsters and 1 adult the others freakout and become unwilling to work sets! Take urine and droppings from ones caught and use it in outer edges of home range. they seam to work the sets thinking one of thier own was just there! yep both true and false!yottey

[trappnman]

Another good thread with some interesting thoughts.

From what I have read and heard- the core area is where the coyote centers his living. The best example of this would be in the spring with dens. This area will be one that offers security, cover, etc- and the coyote will be intimately familar with it. Any intrusions are noted and any changes made are also noted.

Keep in mind core areas change as the seasons change- what as important in spring isn't as important know or spring resources are gone, etc- just keep in mind that core areas within the territory change.

The painted house analogy was a good one. (How many times have you been driving a regular route and one day exclaim "when did they do that!?")- your passenger says- "about a year ago". Or is that just me LOL) )

The fringes of his territory would be less visited and changes or intrusions wouldn't be as obvious.

Stef mentioned anoither important territorial area- overlapping territories. I like to thing of these areas as social areas, as neutral areas.

Travel routes can be both local and long distance.

I am convinced that coyotes are harder to catch at the core areas. To begin with- too much intrusion into the areas will cause shifts- that why hunters for example can cause population shifts- because they are intruding regularly into the core areas.

I also believe that in these core areas, coyotes are more relaxed, more secure- but also feel that they are more alert, more aggressive and more apt to be suspicious- after all- you are in THEIR home.

I also believe they work sets more suspiciously- looking for something to be spooky of.

and consider this- and I think of this all the time since I heard it- Slim says- "coyotes many times are watching you when you make your sets- after all, what else to they have to do?"

And in core areas- esp the relatively small territories in farm country- I do think this happpens a lot. And if a coyote sees you messing in an area- hes going to be doubly suspicious at best.

On the fringes, I believe coyotes are alert, etc- but feel they are also less spooky and more apt to work a set.

Now- add in a bunch of other coyotes- coyotes in the social areas interacting- singing and dancing and having a good time-and I believe set aggression and confidence to work them goes up.

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