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Pam he could look in the want ads and find a gun for sale as well. So what does gun shows have to do with it?

Or he may ask a friend of a friend to find him a cheap gun on the street. The point being we will never have a fail safe for violence, no legislation will equal to such EVER, the gun show is just the excuse nothing more or less and will not change his makeup or if he feels the need to harm others it could be done in so many ways, we all know that.

Misnomer is all Bryce. Where has our trials and court system changed under a democratic controlled period of time?

Texas still has the death penalty, many of your Liberial states do not. Look at the list and one will see those that do not are mainly democratic voting states, so we could conclude they aren't tough on violent crime as well.

I don't think to many gun owners would have a problem adding 1-3.00 per gun purchase for a better background check if that meant the left every time there is a shooting would stop talking about taking away more rights from people. Problem being them stop talking about it,as again it comes back to a base and keeping them happy with such talk and rhetoric.

They know the only thing more gun laws will do is hamper the legal gun Owners but in their mind it is how many less guns can we keep from being sold. As long as people are buying them by the laws set fourth it is no ones business how many are purchased by people. In fact the talk of such in 2012 boosted gun sales in 2013 to over 10 million firearms manufactured that year. Yes been good for the economy and Pitt / Robertson money on the excise taxes!

Bryce the govt needs to come up with more for NICS as it is a public safety issue correct? It is about money and also good datat being passed on and that datat takes time which translates into money spent.

The shear number of calls they receive and the computers and data banks are costly but to ensure public safety we have come along way since the Brady bill and the 3 day waiting period, we can do better when we think for the overall budget would not be a big deal, yet all the left wants to do is push more control upon us. Forget new gun laws and do PR for NICS and properly and timely data from the states.

Put .10 cents on every box of ammo and 1.00 on every gun sale and we will have the money to do more and better checks with an even higher rate of accuracy, then are we willing to stop the rhetoric of placing more laws on law abiding citizens?

Pam it would not just be gun shows it would be ANY and all private gun sales. If you buy guns wholesale and resell for a profit a background check must be done period.

So gun shows get more traffic thru the doors but even dealers must do a background check if they are a licensed dealer gun show or not.

If this concerns you write your congressional people and tell them to better fund the NICS program and tell them to hold states more accountable for transfer of information those are the 2 big areas that need fixing.

Then if you want every private gun sale background checked let's add more $$$$$ to NICS and then write up laws as where the liability stands on such private to private sales. To make things crystal clear on these sales types.

Tray all for that ID no beer or booze with a background check any DUI and you cannot buy any form of alcohol not even cough medicine!

If he has any felony charge he can't have a gun if the mental defective is on record he will answer the 4473 with a false answer that is against federal law, if it has been recorded by the courts under his name should pop up on the Nics call as well so it is up to the court to relay the information . Again I sold guns and we had our share of declined sales and holds . Some of these people received a visit from ATF or other law enforcement .

The background checks we have work thatbisnis fact, the rest is transfer of the information. Here if you buy 2 handguns as one purchase then we have to send a copy of the 4473 to the sheriffs office they then can review and record that information as well.

We have a good system in place and we will never have a fail proof one with the govy involved and the majority of criminals buying stolen guns.

In light of recent supreme court decisions I think tougher guns laws will be a harder road for the left.

The rest is politics as usual .

Interesting election coming up for sure, problem is either side you start pushing too much with new laws and regs and the pendulum swings back to center right history has shown that.

Tman you can honestly state that if we go to mandatory background checks on all firearms transactions that will end or curb to any real degree mass shootings in this country yes or no?

Tman that is the point no criminal is going to buy a gun from a dealer yet we will still have illegal guns on the streets.Except for,not everyone selling guns is on the up and up supply and demand will always have guns in the hands of some who shouldn't have them. Look at our prisons no drugs in prison, yet they run rampant in there and why? They have rules and regs on such and far more controlled than the nation as a whole, guards brining it in for lots of money and people they know as well, supply and demand even though prisons have cameras and other safe guards around, give the criminal element time and they will figure out away!

So the answer is keep imposing tougher and tougher gun laws on law abiding people to make a supremely small dent in the criminal activity of guns?

Govt could know of every gun as all serial numbers are at the ATF disposal. You think it stops car theft as well? 500,000 cars annually stolen each year in the US and the govt has all the info on them.

In Michigan the odds of your stolen car being recovered is 19 percent.

Some states 70 percent. Yet every vehicle is registered. So why would we think guns would be any different?

It is not the law abiding gun owner we are worried about it is the criminal element, many gun owners sleep like babies and betting many criminals do as well. As they just could care less as a criminal but to state gun control is a boogy man is not factual. The left would love to enforce much stricter gun control laws for the sake of doing such nation wide.

Mother jones yeh ok LOL.

Gallop poll

Gallup released a series of poll on the Second Amendment and found some interesting things. First, as Cortney wrote earlier today, a candidate’s stance on gun rights is an important issue to almost one-in-four voters. Yet, 55 percent are in favor of stricter gun laws, which are primarily being driven by more Democrats and Independents leaning towards curtailing Second Amendment rights. At the same time, the polling company noted that this issue fluctuates between support for more and less gun control:

In 2007, the year of the Virginia Tech massacre, the percentage of Americans who favored stricter laws on gun sales dropped to a bare majority (51%) for the first time in several years. Since then, support for stricter laws had stayed under 50%, except in the wake of the Sandy Hook school shootings in Newtown, Connecticut, in December 2012. At that point, 58% of Americans said they were in favor of stricter laws on gun sales. Although support for stricter laws receded after those shootings, in which a young man fatally shot 20 children and six adults, it has yet to return to the 44% level it was at before that tragedy.
Lastly, 56 percent of Americans feel that more concealed firearms would make the country safer, though only after an applicant has passing a background check and taken a training course. This is standard protocol for most who are applying for a concealed firearm permit. Also, support for a ban on handguns fell to a near record low of 27 percent.



So, the support for stricter gun laws is tenuous at best, given its history–and Americans support their fellow citizens carrying concealed firearms, while also not balking at the horrific concept of a handgun ban. I’ll take it as a win. After Sandy Hook, support for stricter gun laws fell below 50 percent. We’ve had a strong of horrific shootings at movie theaters and college campuses, along with the president’s press conference that must’ve energized the anti-gun left with his rhetoric about politicizing gun violence to curb gun rights.

Once Americans learn the fact about the gun control, things return to normal. We’re not a shooting gallery; violent crime is dropping. This is one of the reasons why NBC News feels that support for gun control has declined. Moreover, they noted that even if more Democrats and Independents support gun control and boost its numbers in the polls, it’s unlikely that a shift on this issue would be significant, let alone one that would make anti-gun progressives satisfied.