orcatdog
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Post by orcatdog on Jul 27, 2011 18:13:04 GMT -6
I know there have been old threads on this, but I'm doing one hell of a coyote line this coming season, and I'm not sure I want to pack around the amount of stakes I will need.
I've farted around with many different disposable stake models and in my terrain they worked pretty good. I know there are still going to be places that I won't be able to use them (sandy spots, scab rock, etc).
Folks that do use them:
- Anyone have a favorite brand, style, length?
- Pros / cons
- Success in using them year after year (assuming location is still good)
Lets hear some stories or recommendations.
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Post by RonMarsh on Jul 27, 2011 19:01:30 GMT -6
If there is acid soil or Iron involved stakes that are left from one year to the next can be damaged. Test them befor trusting them.
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Post by trappnman on Jul 28, 2011 10:17:28 GMT -6
I like to pull them with a pick axe, with the point ground down- this allows me to insert end into chain, swivel etc at any point, and a simple rock back pulls the stake w/o effert and quick.
use whatever your soil dictates- here, the simple berkshire works great, and its what we use, and prefer
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Post by coonboy on Jul 28, 2011 16:26:26 GMT -6
1080 how do you like the High Desert Spears?
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Post by milkie62 on Jul 30, 2011 21:31:32 GMT -6
Standard berkshires in my rocky NY soil just don't make it.Usually pounded the driver right thru it.Bought the HD Berkshires and the driver will straighten out the tip in rocky soil.
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Post by trappnman on Jul 31, 2011 6:11:33 GMT -6
HD berkshires, are inferior to standard ones, in my opinion. any soil , it seems, straightens out the tip. I've heard where an exact driver helps this, but I tossed all the ones I got in a trade, away.
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Post by seldom on Jul 31, 2011 6:22:38 GMT -6
HD berkshires, are inferior to standard ones, in my opinion. any soil , it seems, straightens out the tip. I've heard where an exact driver helps this, but I tossed all the ones I got in a trade, away. Yup, it certainly helps! In addition, if the cup isn't bent to a good 90° or 90°+ to the body, even a proper fitting driver will straighten them out. |
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Aug 3, 2011 11:54:51 GMT -6
well have used rebar for years but this year will be using more pogos and wolf fangs as my soil in this local is more condusive for such!
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Post by ColdSteel on Aug 3, 2011 19:48:33 GMT -6
I started out using the super stakes and love them I got a great deal on some 3/8 pipe and made a bunch which are just like the iowas and they work great also .No more rebar for me unless in the water
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Post by trappnman on Aug 5, 2011 8:34:05 GMT -6
does anyone use any form of cables in deep frozen ground?
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Post by seldom on Aug 5, 2011 12:16:29 GMT -6
does anyone use any form of cables in deep frozen ground? If "deep, frozen ground" means 8"-10", yes but I drive a pilot hole with a piece of old crow bar made into a pointed, pilot hole driver. So far I haven't sheared any of my pogos but nor did I ruin any of the regular Berkshires when I used to use them in such a manner. I did shear some pogos last year when driving them into dry, hard -packed clay though without a pilot hole. First time I've ever experienced shearing of a cable stake in my ground. |
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Post by freepop on Aug 6, 2011 11:46:04 GMT -6
I have had the same results as Selom.
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Post by deanchapel on Aug 6, 2011 13:06:52 GMT -6
I'll never entirely give up rebar, but cable is a lot easier in most conditions. I do get tired of pre-drilling when the ground is too hard or frozen. Don't like having to pack a drill too. When it's frozen hard, I'll always use rebar. Nothing will pull rebar with a longer chain and ice in the ground. If I'm concerned about theft, I'll always go with cable. If using the spears, make sure you set them, because in my soil, they will come back out of the hole without setting >50% of the time. I always tamp the driver down on them before setting, and it fixes most of the problems.
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Post by seldom on Aug 6, 2011 16:52:03 GMT -6
I'll never entirely give up rebar, but cable is a lot easier in most conditions. I do get tired of pre-drilling when the ground is too hard or frozen. Don't like having to pack a drill too. When it's frozen hard, I'll always use rebar. Nothing will pull rebar with a longer chain and ice in the ground. If I'm concerned about theft, I'll always go with cable. If using the spears, make sure you set them, because in my soil, they will come back out of the hole without setting >50% of the time. I always tamp the driver down on them before setting, and it fixes most of the problems. They won't turn even when you drive them below the frost line? |
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Post by coalminer on Aug 16, 2011 16:54:44 GMT -6
Ran HD berks. til the ground froze, then even with a pilot hole had alot of tips go straight, went back to rebar in the frozen stuff.
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Post by kspanky on Aug 16, 2011 17:33:45 GMT -6
The ground i trap in out here is rock hard and I used wolf fangs last year but it took a lot of pounding to get them in ten inches even.
this year i have been using my bro in laws cordles hammer drill with a 7/8 masnery bit for making a pilot hole it works great and they hold real good...Kspanky
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Post by steve56 on Aug 19, 2011 17:05:48 GMT -6
i like the superstakes for traps and regular berkshires for snares
the hd berks are junk, one thing iv'e learned is to use a 3/8 smooth rod to drive a pilot hole
last fall the ground was so dry none of the cable stakes would work
had to use rebar
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Post by fireant on Aug 20, 2011 16:04:21 GMT -6
will the high desert spear driver fit on the wolf fangs. Rod
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Post by Nightwish (Catpaw) on Aug 29, 2011 15:29:40 GMT -6
Duckbills are what i used...sold by Mark Schaefer at Rid a Critter. All pros with cable stakes...they are the only way to go...
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Post by trappnman on Aug 29, 2011 17:47:11 GMT -6
actually, there are a lot of ways to go..............................
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