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Post by trappnman on Jun 18, 2016 5:02:47 GMT -6
20% is bullshit plain and simple. Are you ready to pay 80% more for all goods id Trump gets elected- movie tickets, gas. groceries, etc and etc. come on- yes are no are you willing to pay that? ?? you really NEED to understand what you read- the fact you skim and go on, making conclusions based on nothing, explains so much. Millionaires paying less taxes than you or I? LOL talk about drinking the kool aid. When was the last time you paid into the federal govt Tman what year and how much?
a perfect example of reading something, not knowing what you read- but making a conclusion. Tman I have great healthcare thank you at a reasonable cost. I have a 30.00 co pay and 1250.00 a year out of pocket max. I pay less than 300 a month to cover my entire familydon't thank me- thank the govt- or isn't your wife getting the insurance for your family anymore? not substandard? oh my- another $20 loss for TC. hey, we got a new thing- its called Google- use it. See where the US ranks in childbirth deaths, and pretty much EVERY aspect of care, we are far, far down the list. Except one- cost those are the facts- don't like em or not- they are FACTS
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Post by trappnman on Jun 17, 2016 17:58:59 GMT -6
the point that is missed when so many point to Chicago- is that Chicago, and Il aren't islands. its not illegal for a IL resident to buy a gun in another state
the premise of " laws don't stop those really wanting a gun therefore we should do nothing." really rings hollow.
Have any of those reading this, been denied buying a gun?
I never have- and if a long haired, biker, trapper can buy legally...............
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Post by trappnman on Jun 17, 2016 15:42:03 GMT -6
yes, someone does buy the nightly news hook, line and sinker- must go down good with koolaid
its time someone called bullshit to "we got all these laws on the books" when the laws aren't for many reasons including lack of funding, and actual laws that prevent much of them being enforced.
to say the above isn't true- is being a liar
and any argument based on denying it- is false and also a lie.
If you go to ANY gun show and the guy with the guns has an FFL licnese well hoop la la- that's not really the issue is it? its that any private seller at a gun show (not talking your cousins kids girlfriends sister as you always bring up) can sell a gun to anyone.
how many? well brother- you freaking tell me- since there are few if any records of such.
more double speak from a gun nut- note I don't say owner or user- I'm an owner and user-
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Post by trappnman on Jun 17, 2016 15:36:30 GMT -6
talk about BS-
if TC EVER posts actual facts, rather than madeup crap- I'll circle it on calendar for prosperity. and would any discussion be complete, without Tc's red herrings? You wouldn't know a fact if it bit you in the ass.
and anyone that refuses to bake a cake- is a POS and to call their beliefs religion is a sin
go ahead TC- keep setting those 220s in public parks!
good news though- GOP is down to lowest approval rating ever- 35% and fully 70% of the population will never vote Trump. getting kind of lonely isn't it?
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Post by trappnman on Jun 17, 2016 15:31:01 GMT -6
TC has no problem wasting trillions on a useless war- but God forbid someone get health care. Is it really so hard to understand that the money is priority?
if your priorities are useless wars and billionaires paying less % in taxes than you or me-, by God you are an American according to some- but want food stamps for the poor, or affordable health care.......... jeezus God you commie!
odd how every other major country in the world has figured this out-
they must really be special, or we are idjuts
substandard health care, far higher costs than anywhere-e and we are so proud we can't think of a better way? drug cost 300, 400, 700% more here, than anywhere else in the world.
drink more koolaid folks
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Post by trappnman on Jun 17, 2016 7:19:33 GMT -6
We have the 2nd amendment live with it. Or move! The terrorist are comming give up your a guns and proceed to a gun free zone good grief. really? we have come full circle in that if you don't like it- move?
since almost 90% of the American public wants more background checks, wants a no fly, no buy, wants the end to gun show loopholes.
so following your logic- I guess you and the other 10% should move.
but that's you- not me. Me? Room for all, and like EVERY amendment, there are exceptions.
new gun laws are going to be passed- you can either have a seat at the table, or not.
I carry a gun every day-
I grew up with machine guns illegal for private use (with some exceptions, yes) and I never cried about it, or wailed on the internet- I just knew- that for hunting, trapping and protection- didn't really matter
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Post by trappnman on Jun 15, 2016 7:04:18 GMT -6
When I was trapping coyotes for the collaring, I put on a 7-8 collars one spring, mid April to 1st part of May. And I caught all females, several of them nursing females. Which was a big surprise to me- I went into it thinking I'd catch almost all males at that time of year.
I told this to a friend, and asked him what it meant.
He told me it meant I caught 7-8 female coyotes.
Now you can take that comment 2 ways- 1) smartass or 2) meaningful
and the lesson was- I DID catch 7-8 females....but the sample size was so small....it was like flipping a penny- I just got heads 8 times in a row- nothing more or less.
and that's a lesson I try to keep in mind- only until you have a large sample, can things be concluded.
a good example s speed dips, paint, etc. I often read where wax is pooh-poohed, and stuff like "tell it ot the coyote I caught last week"
heck- my first year of breaking 100, way back, was a perfect storm- no one else trapping , no one hunting, very high populations and I got 107 using speed dip.
I was convinced- forget the wax. next year was a real dry year, can't remember my numbers, but decent. 3rd year- rain, rain and rain....and the dig outs, the absolute avoidance of the trap (tracks packed down around the pattern, nary a one over trap) showed me something was dead wrong- and then the rust..oh my...put a dipped trap in the ground, and 2 days later rust spots.
so I started covering sets with sprayed urine- and while the problem didn't go away, it was muted enough to know this was helping. Years later in reading Hoofbeats, I was pleased to learn O'G stated he would use a gal of urine, to mask 50-60 traps in rainy conditions, to mask the rusting.
Later that year, in Jan and in snow- with waxed traps, with dipped traps, with F1 traps- I got a real education- that's been20+ years ago and have waxed ever since.
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Post by trappnman on Jun 14, 2016 7:56:02 GMT -6
amen!
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Post by trappnman on Jun 13, 2016 19:35:09 GMT -6
yes, to the above
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Post by trappnman on Jun 13, 2016 13:38:25 GMT -6
I agree wholeheartedly in coyotes are easy when on the right location. That's the whole concept of being on "the spot".
I just read where coon are easy, mink are easy, etc...but coyotes?
I'm not bragging, just stating a fact- rats, coon and mink, even beaver are what I term easy, meaning if it's there I'll catch them. Sure, an educated beaver can be troublesome- but I'll get him. Never failed on a beaver job yet. And coon and mink are easy once you understand their natures and habits. I consider trapping those production line trapping- some simple basic stuff and a couple of "tricks" is all that is needed. And if you aren't trying to pound out the numbers, which I no longer do on water (a lot to do with not starting til December)its about as pleasant and relaxing a day as one can have.
but coyotes? Sure at times easy, days when you think you got it 100% figured out and days where one is almost wishing for no coyotes last couple sets because you are tired of skinning-
but yet I can go into an area where I've done well, and snow tells me I didn't take them all- usually move on, but 2 years ago with all the early snow, I kept a token line out in the area I caught the most earlier- new sets, old sets, trick sets and baits- no lure bait urine sets for another 3 weeks- and I caught a coyote every few days out of 20 or so traps- this after taking 26 from that area, to be fair to me, with drifting snow everyday, rare I had 20 working, more like 10-12 each check
but there were coyotes I just could not catch.
An interesting question I often wonder about- is what % of coyotes that are aware of your set- meaning any coyote coming by, and either smelling or seeing the set- I was told by someone I respect that his guess was I was taking about 80% based on info I told him.
THATS my goal (and hopefully I've improved that over the past couple years)- coon, mink, etc I can move in, and if I want take out all the locals.
I can't do that with yotes-
another thing- I haven't read a mink book, coon book, watched a video, etc for more years than I can remember. My opinion of myself is not that I know it all- but that my knowledge is equal to any other source
coyotes no way- I'm in middle school
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Post by trappnman on Jun 13, 2016 7:30:00 GMT -6
I'm not going to disagree with you, but offer this-
if the goal is to set in locations where coyotes spend time- then does wind matter?
let me explain a bit-
in farm land, you are limited to where you can set, by the land and it's use. A good example is the difference between corn and beans. I wish every farm I trapped raised beans- the fields ae magnets for coyotes in several ways, and 90% of the fields are not worked til spring, making great "highways" to drive on, and if flat can take a lot of water and still be drivable. But I digress- the point is that I really can't set reliably with the wind- if you got an attraction blocked off with plowed fields, or woods- then the location becomes more important than going by the wind.
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Post by trappnman on Jun 13, 2016 7:26:30 GMT -6
In his kind he is telling people we should allow them to fly and kill possible 100's of people,
or could it be if someone is on the no fly list because he is too dangerous to allow on a plane, it might be silly to allow him to buy guns?-
you remind me of a trapper that sets 220s in a park, and then is outraged when restrictions are put on 220s
why don't you tell me how we need more mental health agencys and that will prevent much of this (and I agree, it will!)- and then, like Brick on "The Middle" you will lower your head and say 'no funding"....cause YOUR party, keeps reducing funding- its the classic case of saying one thing (such as we HAVE laws on the books, and that's true, but legislation WRITTEN BY THE NRA and forced through congress prevents the very laws THAT THE NRA HELPED WRITE YEARS AGO TO HAVE CHECKS AND CONTROLS) but doing another.
and so, like my trapper friend- don't cry to me because you get very restrictive laws-
your attitude and the attitude of no compromise, no common sense will bite you in the ass.
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Post by trappnman on Jun 12, 2016 8:32:14 GMT -6
I favor the wind really only in one way- the approach direction if that is possible.
I do take it as a general given, that coyotes approach locations using the wind and that if the circumstances allow it I'll make sets downwind of the attraction. But that is a variable to the degree that habitat is also going to play a part in how they approach a set.
but the first look for stall out possibilities is always downwind- but that's not set in stone. If its not possible to approach downwind, and the coyotes are there, they have to be coming in from other angles.
but at the set itself, I pay zero attention to the wind direction, esp when its really a variable on how the wind, even though generally from the NW is going to react to the contours surrounding the location. Its constantly swirling and changing directions unless a real front goes through. That's the beauty of being on stall out locations, is that time is going to be spent, and that time will allow the set to be found, and worked. And that's where big backings, and set construction comes into play- while a coyote might WANT to only work the set downwind, he is forced to work it the way I want, and not how he wants- and that brings us ful lcircle to lots of scent, lots of attractions AT the hole
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Post by trappnman on Jun 12, 2016 7:29:18 GMT -6
as far as urine use- it all comes down to this-
I can catch coyotes with no urine.
I can catch coyotes with just a little urine on the backing.
but I catch more coyotes, quicker, and absolutely ZERO problems with remakes (I've had years, latest 3 years ago when I always put in a fresh set, if I no longer had a set ready that hadn't taken a coyote, with no indication that I was doing anything other than using time and effort to put in a fresh set) by using a good amount of urine, sprayed over entire set area.
I have people tell me that makes me an rookie..... but those same people tell me it takes a week to catch a coyote & that they rarely have remakes work.
my biggest days on a new line, are days 1-4- and among other things, I attribute that to urine use.
I won't try to dissuade anyone from using urine as a lure, but can only say that for me- I wouldn't make a coyote set anymore w/o lots of urine- the difference, for me, in the 2 methods of use is day and night.
but the myth is out there, strongly, that minimum urine use is the way to go- I'll gladly sell someone a pint of urine.but for me, that would be 5-6 sets.
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a new question- is wind more important for 1) the direction in which the approach the set or 2) finding the set?
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Post by trappnman on Jun 11, 2016 7:25:55 GMT -6
so if someone is on a no fly list (and you don't just appear magically on such a list, and yes, mistakes are made) then it seems silly to me, that they can buy guns.
the fact that some have zero compromise (and like the NRA plays game after game) is why you have trump as your candidate. Good luck with that. you reap what you sow.
but please- quote the words my President used in his 'slick way" to mislead you.
put up time..........
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Post by trappnman on Jun 11, 2016 7:17:38 GMT -6
I ride and work on old bikes. Its common when talking to someone else, and they say "it had a miss, but I fixed it" and when I asked what fixed it, they reply with 5-6 different things that they did- and problem solved. Well, yes..it is...but doing multiple things different, taught nothing. only by doing 1 thing at a time, does the cause become known.
And I think that applies to trapping in general, and coyotes as well. Unless you try something for a season or two to see what effect that singular change does, one doesn't get any information.
once at least some consistent success is reached and you have a baseline- whatever % that may be- then you can start trying a few things- say 1/2 of line is done 1 way, the rest another. Our usual test for a new lure, bait method is to on set up run 1/2 the line with Lori doing the new thing on each set, and the 2nd half me doing so (to eliminate individual mechanics). For example last year we wanted to know if using one bait (Showtime) over another (Kick Ass)would have any effect, with all else being as equal as possible on 2 things (1) 1st night catches and 2) overall success of sets compared to each other.
There was no difference- no difference with endless combinations of lures, settings, populations, etc.
So now we know we can use either, with equal confidence.
And I think mechanics are the same. Take the walkthrough. While I agree that the visuals are not there (but if you carry a bunch of skulls/hipbones around, placing one 20-50' as a stand alone attractant, it pays BIG dividends), if set on location (meaning multiple coyotes coming regularly) I find it to be a great set. And Seldom described the placement pretty well. keep in mind, I also lure the holes well, meaning lots of scent- and a good skunk lure is, as stated, going to be out there enough that coyotes will be aware of the set. Trouble I have had with pipes, bones etc as lure holders, is they seem to be able to get at it, and avoid the pattern. I think one needs to have a mindset that GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY a coyote will avoid a pattern, and without a doubt a stark, obvious cookie cutter pattern with increase that behavior.
An old timer once said, or I read, can't remember who or where-
a coyote set should look either like a bomb went off that morning, or like its been there untouched for a year.
I tend to agree with that
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Post by trappnman on Jun 10, 2016 15:05:05 GMT -6
you have me wrong on that Seldom- I believe a coyote will almost always try to work a set from the side and/or back. and that many sets with little or no backing are investigated from behind (that dang snow!)
so I have no doubt that is what they do- but the shape of the hole, the shape of the set, is going to force him to work it st on- he simply has no choice
approaches a walk-thru set with the two holes and only scratches at the downwind hole and leaves. Never have I seen where a coyote or fox ever worked the walk-thru or scratched a hole other then from an acute, sidewise angle.
isn't a coyote there in the morning, proof he works it otherwise?
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Post by trappnman on Jun 10, 2016 13:04:32 GMT -6
I like 2 contrasting lures- what I like to call "sweet & sour" because my alltime favorite combo is a minty sweet type of cat lure, combined with a good skunk lure.
I don't worry so much about what type of scent (ie gland, food, call, etc) but rather want to different scents, no matter how different.
and 2 baits as well- a prepared bait (Kick Ass or Showtime are my go to) plus 1/2 of a pocket gopher that I freeze, and take out on day of use 9thery chop in half much easier froze)
I'm convinced not that you can't catch coyotes (the ability of their nose cannot be overstated) on 1 lure, or a few drops of lure....but again we come back to get them first day or 3, and move on. Plus, heavy luring with my schedule of a week, makes it so I don't have to relure unless unique circumstances such as heavy rain. I do if a set hasn't connected, re urine it a day or two before pulling
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Post by trappnman on Jun 10, 2016 12:27:48 GMT -6
Its hard to say how much I use- I take a wide popsicle stick, and dip it in and scoop up a little- at a guess, I'm using an oz at every 5-6 sets- double that with 2 lures- so lure cost if $18 a 4oz it would be under $1 in lure, bait would be less, urine as well- but I'm sure I got $2-3 at every set in lure/bait/urine
I set trap pretty much in the middle of the pattern, slightly offset to right side- I have my outer jaw 3-5" from edge of hole
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Post by trappnman on Jun 10, 2016 7:57:54 GMT -6
yes, that is my feeling as well.
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