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Post by trappnman on Jun 18, 2016 13:38:08 GMT -6
The numbers mean something how far away DO YOU feel you are pulling coyotes to your trap sets with a high placement of call lure? Ie tracks in the snow confirmed this coyote hit the call lure at X distance and the tracks confirmed them comming on a straight line to the odor source?
I track each coyote to the set- I don't need snow- the average coyote on no high lure is 127 yards, with a high lure average 347 yards- but oh that day in aught'2..........
why throw meaningless numbers out there?
the numbers mean nothing!
either you think you can call a coyote to a set location, or you do not.
if you do not- then it is what it is, I disagree 100% and we will leave it at that.
but if you do- then it is 100% fact that the more wind that a scent is exposed to, the more it dissipates (btw you can't have dispersal of an odor without dissipation. to argue not, is below this forums IQ.
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Post by trappnman on Jun 18, 2016 13:30:28 GMT -6
ever hear the joke about the roof?
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Post by trappnman on Jun 18, 2016 13:27:52 GMT -6
Because you stated you pay in more percentage wise than millionaires do
I pay more % of income than Warren buffet, more than Romney, more than many of the 1%
that's a fact- please, please please use google and this simple stuff won't be a mystery to you
no, you can't pick and choose- how much do you make an hour?
what are your house payments?
what are your credit card bills?
if you want financial disclosure, lead the way.
otherwise, stop being silly.
and do your homework concerning real % of income paid as taxes- and even you (if you actually took the time- see, this isn't something that should be argued when the truth is readily out there) can see what is true- many millionaires and billionaire,s pay less % in total income than a man making $20 an hour
disagree with it, keep on being silly, but none of that chances the facts
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Post by trappnman on Jun 18, 2016 13:22:05 GMT -6
lets say you are setting in a gully, or against elevation, or in trees or tall weeds-
any value and putting scent up above that?
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Post by trappnman on Jun 18, 2016 13:14:50 GMT -6
all the numbers you gave are meaningless, and moot as well.
Why?
because no matter the number of feet- its always going TO BE MORE the higher up a scent is placed.
but does it truly draw coyotes or make some feel better about the set with high call lure?
if it was just my opinion, I'd wonder.
but when 1080 and O'G both say the same-
you don't want to argue- then answer this-
do you believe that the more wind a scent gets, the more it dissipates?
that's pretty simple- a yes or no.
The bigger benefit as we all know is a large draw station that will pull coyotes much further than some LDC on a limb correct?
of course- but how does 1, negate the other?
let me ask another question- how often have you used a high up call lure?
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Post by trappnman on Jun 18, 2016 12:55:00 GMT -6
which college?
be good to know of one that gets no public funding.
I didn't say the public should or shouldn't have them- I aid the designer aid they weren't designed for public use- argue with him
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how much do you make an hour? Where did you eat dinner last night? do you drink? if so, how much? does your wife work- if so, how much does she make? what do you weigh? I'd be curious about your wife as well. How much insurance do you carry? both life and auto please? Could you list your deductions on your taxes?
what I send the irs is MY business- why would you think I'd tell someone I never met or know- my personal business?
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Post by trappnman on Jun 18, 2016 12:48:25 GMT -6
no, your point is that a scent at ground level, or 1' up gets into the wind the same as one high.
again, I'll not argue it with you- some think a coyote can't be caught at a high backing, or you need fresh set tools, etc. Trap on! I'm starting to believe you have zero experience with scent to lure coyotes. perhaps its because you snared and shot more than trapped..
and why I say that- is NO ONE would deny the more wind (higher up) the more it gets out.
how far depends 100% on how its dispersed- and the more wind, the higher up in the wind, the further it is going to go.
might as well argue sun comes up in west- it might to some....but thats more not knowing east from west than fact
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Post by trappnman on Jun 18, 2016 12:43:18 GMT -6
% or not- GOOD GOD
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I mean- GOOD GOD!!!!!
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some people get mad when called a liar- so I won't call you that- instead, I'll say stop being a dick and misquoting my words-
I never said an AR was deadly- or anything close
What is the most you have paid in to the Feds the last 15 years?
you won't even say who you work for, or who you are voting for- but you demand my financial information?
insert my response here: __________________________!!!!!!!! (two words)
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Post by trappnman on Jun 18, 2016 12:37:29 GMT -6
gun sales tell me too many are chicken littles, and willing bump up prices-
kind of dumb if you ask me
All I have on Trump -good god man, do you ever get out from under that rock?
yes- racist is an evil word- and those that speak racist thoughts are evil people- and those that say "hes my guy' are racists as well. if the shoe fits- wear it proudly
but lets talk on how he has screwed over 1000s of average workers, and put companies out of business by not paying his bills, and (hey, bet you went!) his fraudulent University- and his hate of religion, or anyone who came from another country (his wifes -plural- excluded, of course), or whos parents did, or if oyu pray to another god-
no wonder his negatives among pretty much every group- are 50-90%
that should be enough-
but that's all kitty spit-
hes a freaking racist, his words (good God Paul Ryan stated "textbook definition of racism!) show that day after day..but hey...a pic of a black man with Trump/
well, you do know, he does loves his African-American>
I'll bet you any amount you want on this election- money talks, bullshit walks.
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Post by trappnman on Jun 18, 2016 12:29:55 GMT -6
you asked when I went to a gun show-
nothing else was worth replying to- as Wiley E often said, I'm not going to discuss the shape of the table
I'm real happy, that the vast majority of Americans don't think like you do- gives me hope that reasonable people can still have reasonable solutions with a dialogue-
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Post by trappnman on Jun 18, 2016 12:27:04 GMT -6
when the deer were THERE, they put their noses to the urine.
really, if you believe tat the ability of scent to get out there is the same ground level, 10" up or 5' up- so be it. I disagree 100%, but am not going to debate it with you.
and if you think you can't pull a coyote with proper use of lures, then again, so be it- I'm not going to reinvent the wheel on scent
the wolf/moose example was to show where the luremaker of a good call lure, placed it.
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Post by trappnman on Jun 18, 2016 8:54:08 GMT -6
its a given that wind needs to be present, since all scent is, is small particles of a solid.
do I think a scent has to be 6-8' off the ground to call coyotes? no, I do not- but at the same time- the higher up a lure is, the farther it's going to be detected.
I find it odd to read stuff like "No one is expecting to draw a coyote with just the smell of lure 200-400 yards are they" and "detected by coyotes much further than the majority are going to come to investigate " because after many years of raising, training, hunting and competing with hounds I find so many are not giving a canines nose the credit they deserve.
how far do you think a dead pile reaches out?
If I can smell a dead pile from quite a distance- how far hard to say. We have a local plant out in country that makes a dairy product- and I can smell that from miles away. and can smell dairys for a mile or more easy on hot days.
I read a study once, where drug dogs (German shepherds to name the breed) could smell something like a millionth of a drop of scent, on clothes pin, buried feet underground.
With German Sheperds of all dogs.
What on earth can a coyote's nose smell, after 1000s of years of selective survival of the fittest breeding?
What does O'G do? often takes jars with holes in lid, and hangs them high in trees as a true LDC. I think, if a coyote can 1) smell it and 2) want it...he is going to find it.
High means as much placement as anything. the more vegetation around- the higher the lure needs to go- if your purpose is a true away from the set call lure.
if I'm going to use it- why limit myself to ground level, or on a backing? I got that there already
I don't use a high call lure a lot- probably should do more- but when I do- its as high up as I can get it- often a round bale, or on a branch of a tree-
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Post by trappnman on Jun 18, 2016 8:39:17 GMT -6
thank God Trump is running, and the court will become more in tune with the people!!!!!
all the financial news- DON'T buy gold
and yes, gun sales will continue to grow every year-
I'm so going to enjoy a majority n Senate, and perhaps house.
finally get some things done.
must really suck to be a republican right now-
anyone that votes for a man so racist- is a racist. And if that's you, so be it- but own it man, own it!
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Post by trappnman on Jun 18, 2016 8:36:12 GMT -6
a month ago
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Post by trappnman on Jun 18, 2016 8:34:48 GMT -6
here is what you keep saying- your words quoted:
you skipped by the point that you and I pay more in taxes than millionaires
and what I actually posted- my words quoted:
if your priorities are useless wars and billionaires paying less % in taxes than you or me
please note the difference
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I write a check to IRA every year for SE tax
some years we get a refund, some years we pay in insofar as fed tax
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what private sector field are you in?
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interesting tidbit: the designers of the AR guns, has stated they were never designed to be sold at large- they were designed for Special forces.
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Post by trappnman on Jun 18, 2016 7:38:01 GMT -6
lets see-
one is a former S of S, has worked for others her whole life, and despite her faults, her actions show who's side she is on-
the other is a racist, bigoted, narcistic jerk- who cares only for 1 person, himself.
not too hard to make a choice.
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I do agree with breakdown of family
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do laws work? back when I was a kid- 10-12 years old, I could buy ciggies- any store would sell them to me- I'd often run in and get the old man a pack before he quit. or machines were everywhere- put in your money and out drops a fresh pack
now- we have laws to prevent that, and just about any store around here, because of the fines, cards people if ANY question about age.
can kids still get ciggies? sure.
should we rescind those laws- make it anyone regardless of age allowed to buy?
is the "trouble" of being 21 and having to show proof of age so burdensome that we need to allow unrestricted sales?
when the Patriot act came on, people like TC were all about "if you aren't doing wrong, what do you care?" apparently the constitution only apples to guns? and your right to talk about them?
if you are legal, then what do you really care, that ALL would need background checks?
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Post by trappnman on Jun 18, 2016 5:58:14 GMT -6
another thing I read recently, is that high up call lure, does nothing.
now think on that- we use scents for 1 reason- to attract a coyote via his nose.
I have seen, countless times with hounds- all of a sudden the nose goes up in air, and nose held high they go directly to a bunny, or a coon track, etc. Those hounds are called jump dogs, and no one that hunts with dogs, would EVER deny the ability to wind game from quite a distance.
so to those that think a high lure doesn't "call" better than a buried lure, is just spinning their wheels insofar as understanding coyotes.
I just don't understand the false information-
I've caught cats- but lifetime less than a good cat trapper in a day-
so I don't give advice on cat trapping- I have no conclusions on cat trapping
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PTA
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Post by trappnman on Jun 18, 2016 5:51:14 GMT -6
went to the PTA 6-7 times- always enjoyed it- its very similar in size, etc to the WI convention.
will be interesting indeed this year at conventions- last year if it wasn't coyote related, not much interest-
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Post by trappnman on Jun 18, 2016 5:12:28 GMT -6
sorry- I;'m going ot have to yell.
IT IS ABSURD TO CONTINUE TALKING ABOUT PRESENT LAWS, AS IF THOSE LAWS WERE BEING ENACTED.
BUT ANYONE THAT TAKES EVEN A MINUTE TO ACTUALLY CHECK FACTS, CAN TELL YOU THAT IT IS A CATCH 22 SITUATION
and that the laws aren't being enforced for 2 reasons 1) funding and staffing (cut by the GOP) and 2) some laws actually legally cannot be enforced.
pb[Tman you cannot be denied of buying a gun because of the 2nd amendment we all have the opportunity unless we have committed a felony, or misdemeanor charge of domestic violence or an illegal residing in the US.[/b[
cool. oh wait....unless you go to a gunshow, or buy one on the internet, or craigslist. then you can buy anything you want, without ANY background check.
silly facts...
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Post by trappnman on Jun 18, 2016 5:05:20 GMT -6
You fail to miss as do other liberials what is a life worth
REALLY> you want to go down that road?
TC- a proud member of a party that constantly and consistently denies funding for mental health?
and if any party needs it.............
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