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Post by bogio on Jul 5, 2012 18:48:11 GMT -6
So traveling 8 miles to kill sheep might be more of a night out for entertainment? Interesting! Is there evidence of feeding in these situations, paunch drug out etc., or is it all just kill and let lay for the joy of it?
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Post by bogio on Jul 5, 2012 15:24:11 GMT -6
Travelling a distance to feed makes me wonder, if I can ask,
1080,
Your coyote that was traveling 8 miles to kill on sheep. Was that the closest source or was it bypassing others to kill on this particular band? And where at did you kill it, where it was coming from, at the sheep, or along it's travel corridor?
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Post by bogio on Jul 5, 2012 10:29:54 GMT -6
Tman
In your last post you said "would the lures I made work". Did you try some home formulations? If so, any conclusions, realizing you only had the one coyote return?
Catch pic you said XLDC was the lure. Did your use technique/presentation differ from fall? Did set construction differ any from fall?
Bank here said 104 yesterday at 5 p.m. Still was at 90 at 10 p.m.
Brutal
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Post by bogio on Jul 5, 2012 9:07:05 GMT -6
OK TC,
Let's take out all the depends ons.
When using a proven lure which is your choice for the given application, getter/flat/holeset, while working summertime coyotes and temperatures swing into and stay in the extremes we've been experiencing, what changes/adjustments will you make?
Steve,
Did that female have the well manicured toenails of a bale walker? Did you reset?
Moisture situation getting critical here as well. Had to do some digging last couple of days, dry and hard. Hope digging isn't like this come fall/winter.
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Post by bogio on Jul 3, 2012 17:29:56 GMT -6
OG's LDC is by far my #1 coyote producer. It loses it's loudness but not it's mojo. Twice I have experienced the seperation of the bottom of the bottle from the main body on glass 4 ouncers while in storage. Only lure this has ever happened with on me. Probably a fluke.
In hot weather like we are experiencing, how is lure effectiveness affected especially with milder lures? I would think it would bake the goody out of it in short order.
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Post by bogio on Jul 1, 2012 21:33:41 GMT -6
Steve,
Just curious. Do the coyotes toenails actually damage the bale wrap leading to spoilage or he'd just rather be rid of them?
1080,
Corn hybrids have moved beyond the "knee high by the forth" standard. Most of our corn here is head high or better and has been tassled for over a week.
Have absolutely no experience with summertime coyotes but right now we are extremely dry. Mudhole ponds and small streams are about petered out. I would think that in that situation you would be looking for a water source but from what I've seen on the news, Steve might not have that problem.
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Post by bogio on Jun 26, 2012 20:41:21 GMT -6
Sooze says the bread is a go. It's up to her now.
Finished up the water traps tonight.
Start on the coyote traps tommorrow. Minor tweaks and treat.
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Post by bogio on Jun 26, 2012 15:37:46 GMT -6
Been thinking about Seldom's bread all day at work. Wife is going to get a request tonight.
Have to work the coon even harder this year and the rats where I find them. That said......................................................................
IT'S COYOTES BABY, FULL BORE. THERE IS NOTHING BETTER IN MY BOOK!
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Post by bogio on Jun 24, 2012 9:39:16 GMT -6
You wear a welding apron when you're baking Seldom?
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Post by bogio on Jun 23, 2012 18:40:40 GMT -6
Been busy with preparations for this fall. It's not that far off.
Got my NAFA check today, rubs go to the ditch from now on!
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Post by bogio on Jun 18, 2012 15:37:08 GMT -6
Looks to me like Steve summed up what he meant quite well in his final post on page one.
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Re: gland lure? « Reply #15 on: January 17, 2011, 03:49:01 PM »I agree 100% Asa-- and I've used your lures and they work very well.
yes, skunk smell in itself, seems to be a universal attractant.
my main point through all of this, was that in my opinion, the hole is more to hold the odor than to imitate something cached
if you give him odors, and a unseen origin of those odors, his natural curiosity, nature takes over.
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Post by bogio on May 16, 2012 21:23:43 GMT -6
When we went by here at 6:30 this morning there was nothing. When we came by on the way home at 3:00 in the afternoon, there he was. Took these pics about 7:00 this evening, he's already on the way out. One less on the stretchers this fall.
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Post by bogio on May 14, 2012 17:46:00 GMT -6
Sooooo, what could I have expected out of my fur if it had been on wood rather than wire? Or will the real tell be when the market receeds?
As far ease of putting coyotes on wood, what do you mean? Once the skinning and fleshing is done the rest is gravy. I'm at a loss here.
MY point is that just because it's on wood doesn't necessarily make it better. It still has to be handled well.
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Post by bogio on May 14, 2012 15:28:01 GMT -6
I've only been finishing fur for three years and shipping to NAFA for two. I use all wire stretchers. It's easy to see that there is a real divide amongst opinions concerning wood vs. wire. I have forgone worrying only about how much size I can get out of a piece of fur and concentrate more on what it looks like. Start out with clean fur and a decent scrape job. Get the base to the right width for the length it will easily give you while maintaining relatively parallel sides and fairly straight skirts on the bottom. Sew up holes. Make sure the eyes, ears, tail, and front legs are centered.
By doing it this way, my coon last year did $21.24 and this year $26.08. I think rats last year were just over $10.00, this years did $12.69. Could I have done better on wood? I kind of doubt it but who knows. I've got coyotes selling in about two weeks, I'm interested to see what happens with them.
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Post by bogio on Feb 9, 2012 21:57:46 GMT -6
A friend who is also my boss is sitting on a couple of freezers clear full of coon from the first 4 days of the season. He is waiting to see how the auction goes. He might be sorry he waited.
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Post by bogio on Jan 22, 2012 11:42:27 GMT -6
Pulled two of the locations yesterday as one had produced nothing and I felt the other had run it's course. Check of the remaining 5 this morning yielded a male coyote at the location where I missed yesterday. Caught him in the fresh set there rather the the remake. Had misses at a couple of other spots, the holes/patterns where blown full of snow and I think it throws off the geometry of the set in terms of lining them up. Cleaned them out and will see what tommorrow brings. 9 checks left in the season.
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Post by bogio on Jan 21, 2012 12:42:52 GMT -6
Checked 7 locations this morning with a light new snow on. All but one have taken multiple coyotes. 6 of the 7 had a single or a pair come through. One location had a pair all over a remake set but just didn't hit "the spot". Disappointing. Other location reactions ranged from just cruising through with no interest, to looky-loos who would not commit, to the ones who basicly told me to go pound sand through circling and kick backs. Interesting that a group of sets that have been producing fairly consistently give up a check like that.
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Post by bogio on Jan 17, 2012 17:23:59 GMT -6
Urine soaked remake produced another male today. Remade it and chopped in a fresh backup 30 ft. away. It was pretty cold and windy on that knob, I think the coyote was glad to see me.
Yesterday, the location I referred to earlier where the fresh set had been patiently waiting finally saw it get some action. Now both sets are remakes slathered with urine.
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Post by bogio on Jan 15, 2012 19:13:48 GMT -6
Checked a location 2 days ago that had produced 7coyotes earlier in season before being pulled. An old set that had caught 4 big males had been hit again in the snow. Put in a new set just outside the old circle area with no urine and as I suspected it produced another big male this morning. You can catch them without urine. Remake got dosed down. We'll see what happens.
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Post by bogio on Jan 15, 2012 8:01:55 GMT -6
One man's porky another man's possum? I've caught possum's numbering in the teens for a single check on a coon line. Never that bad in coyote sets but bad enough.
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