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Post by Rod17 on Oct 30, 2006 18:27:58 GMT -6
yes, the patent process is too costly for most small manufactures to deal with.
As for the rest of us, we know who deserves credit for specific items and all you can do is patronize that person with your repeat business. Nothing speaks success louder than loyal customers.
I am willing to pay a few more bucks to someone who has pioneered a particular product. I think the MJ Sterling 600's are a good example , that was made in a previous post. They are the "original" trap of that type and are better built than any other trap on the market. Personally, I chose not to purchase knock-off of this specific design.
If knocks-off bug you, be principled and support the originator, even if it cost some $$
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Post by Rod17 on Oct 28, 2006 11:25:52 GMT -6
I have no plans on buying them. He posted them on this forum, asked us what we thought, I am giving you answer. Thats what forums are about...everyone gets to opine!
yeah, yeah yeah...."coon hunters do it in the dark"...soccer players have more balls"...blah blah blah. give me a break...they're all lame. I am all about the free market..anyone can make, buy or sell what they want. thats not the issue. The fact remains, he asked for feedback. Sorry, sometime life gives you feedback you don't like.
If you want to tout the heritage of trapping or show your pride in what you do, then make a decal or bumper sticker that presents trapping in a positive manner...not some over-used sexual innuendo.
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Post by Rod17 on Oct 27, 2006 21:09:02 GMT -6
NCtaxi
I gotta be honest here, I dont think your decals are going to enhance trapping or trappers in the public eye. I think they are in poor taste.
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Post by Rod17 on Oct 27, 2006 17:45:38 GMT -6
WCH
great pics of good locations.
Interesting hold on that skunk...was he dead or did you do the honors?
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Post by Rod17 on Oct 29, 2006 14:38:51 GMT -6
I had one trap stolen last year that was anchored with a 12" cable stake. There was boot print in firm soil that was about 3-4" deep , so the sucker was really pulling to get it out. Judging from the way the area was tramped down, it took him awhile to pull it out.
I have tried pulling out the 12 inchers in my soil conditions and find it impossible...and thats pulling straight up, not at 75-90 degree angle like a coyote would be pulling.
I like the comments of driving a few links of chain into the ground with the cable stakes for some extra depth.
However, I agree completely that no staking methods will ever be 100%
thanks for the feedback.
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Post by Rod17 on Oct 28, 2006 15:00:40 GMT -6
Good info guys, thanks
My limited experience that that Iowa-type ends on 12" of 3/32 cabel has good holding power (based on me trying to pull them out) ...but 12 inches just seemd a bit short...and it made me nervous.
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Post by Rod17 on Oct 27, 2006 21:11:34 GMT -6
Thanks for the feedback.
Has anyone ever had a coyote pull out a cablestake? If so, what were the specifics...cable length, soil condition, length of check etc.
Thanks
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Post by Rod17 on Oct 26, 2006 21:41:57 GMT -6
This months issue of T&PC had an article about cable stakes and it got me wondering about length. Like with all stakes, soil condition palys a big role in the choice of length.
I am in Utah, with very rocky soil. I purchased several doz of the Iowa disposable stakes from OG. They are 12" of 3/32 cable and they take some doing to pound in the full length. Last year I planted the cable stakes a week on two before I set traps (and before the freeze up). I doubt that a coyote could pull them out but...
...I am wondering what length cable stakes those of you in rocky soil conditions use? (Dont suggest drags...I dont have the time to chase critters around).
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Post by Rod17 on Oct 22, 2006 13:46:06 GMT -6
come on guys...you can't look at a picture and make any conclusions about TC37's stakes. There could be 6 ft of stake below the surface . OK ,4 inches is showing and suddenly you think you can see thru dirt and make predictions about holding power.
His answer was right on...its all about soil conditions. With an arrow head on the bottom that stake might not be able to be pulled out with a tractor once it "sets"...just like a cable stake. His post was about trap mods.
I am a big fan of the Sterlings; they are a great traps.
However, someone made a comment about toe cathces and cast jaws...? I'd like to hear more about that relationship. Comments?
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Post by Rod17 on Oct 16, 2006 21:24:03 GMT -6
I am with TC37 on this one. If by "incidental" you mean infrequent, then stick with trap thats the best for the target species you are after. Whats worse, losing coyotes to pull-outs or having the situation you describe? I think the problem is your twisted friend and not trap size.
No one, however, can agrue Mr. Wendt's experience and logic. I have never used the soft catches so I wont say anything negative about them. If your "incidentals" are more frequent cathces than your target, give the soft catches a try.
..and leave your friend at home...
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Post by Rod17 on Oct 14, 2006 8:54:13 GMT -6
Stainless steel cable is completely different than galvinized cable. Spray painting is the best idea. Buy some tan, light green and/or whatever matches your local cover. It only takes a very fine, light coating.
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Post by Rod17 on Sept 29, 2007 16:15:51 GMT -6
I have used brown Formula-1 (diluted an extra 30% from the trap dye mix)...gives snares a very light coating that blends in well...looks natural.
I have also spray-painted with plain old tan and brown Rustoleum...a very light coating...give them plenty of time to air out.
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Post by Rod17 on Sept 24, 2006 10:41:47 GMT -6
I have always used leather gloves, some with a lining, some without. Rub a little fox urine into them (just a few drops). I keep them in a separate pocket of my trapping bag and just use them to handle traps, snares, hammer, sifter, stakes etc.
I know lots of folks dont use gloves but I think they must reduce human odor.
The only down side to leather is after they get wet the drying process makes them shrink a little. I always found that by the time a dig the trap bed and use them for a minute or so, they are loosing in up and back to their original size.
I have never found a pair of rubber gloves that had the dexterity needed for setting traps/making sets... and in cold weather they are too stiff.
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Post by Rod17 on Sept 10, 2006 8:24:31 GMT -6
I was looking through the Archives and saw a great thread on pan covers. Seems like steel screen, wax paper and plastics wrap (baggies and saran-type wrap) were the more common methods.
No one mentioned waxed canvas. I have used waxed paper and steel screen with varying success. I recently purchased some very heavy duck canvas and cut it to fit modified Bridgers 3 and Sterling MJ600. Its easy to work with and takes on dye and wax readily. Seems like it should work great.
Anyone use waxed canvas? pros..cons?
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Post by Rod17 on May 9, 2007 17:33:22 GMT -6
BadDog...how are you testing your BADS?
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Post by Rod17 on Apr 3, 2007 20:49:23 GMT -6
Now thats funny. I used to live in Chicago and there were yotes in Lincoln Park and, occasionally, one would get on the railroad tracks and meander into downtown. I saw a photo of one sitting on the third or fourth floor ledge of a building just a few feet from the El tracks.
You sure have to admire and respect their versatility!
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Post by Rod17 on Mar 17, 2007 15:08:03 GMT -6
great job...good looking fur!
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Post by Rod17 on Mar 16, 2007 18:04:57 GMT -6
Are there any industry-sponsored newletters, trade papers/magazines etc, devoted to fur industry news, international trading etc?
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Post by Rod17 on Mar 9, 2007 18:44:43 GMT -6
I always liked the 2DLS for red fox when I trapped in Penna. Used mostly flat sets and post sets. The DLS trap beds very easily and is more than enough trap of a fox. However, if I were in an area with coyotes it would not be my first choice.
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