Another reason I see a need for mod traps!

[trappincoyotes39]

Here are a couple from today both large males and both hind footed. the first in a bridger modified held well and deep.



The next was a big male and had to shoot him as he wasn't happy and with this hold I take no chances. This is a sterling on a 3 day check and I don't know in some other traps if this coyote would have been there waiting for me? The blood is not from the catch.

This to was a big male. Offset jaws don't cause losses!!!!! Love my new camera.

[GUTPYLZ]

Nice lookin Yote.

[Rick]

Another reason I see for cable stakes too TC.

Rick.

[trappincoyotes39]

Rick you know I just have always liked rebar or smooth stakes, can't explain it but have. There is much more below the soil than it looks and those coyotes aren't close to getting them stakes out. Plus if they pull up a few inches which they do depending on soil type I just see that as more swivel action. I run 18" or more of chain and that helps with leverage on those old time stakes as well ;D

[bobwendt]

an eastern dog would have flat been gone with that stake out like that. why I always cross stake. I use a short 12-15"er as the second stake ,at an angle, so it`s not much weight or effort to insure no pumping. smooth rod- oh my gawd!

[trappincoyotes39]

Bob I doubt it. Those are 30" stakes and decent soil. I still had to get the vice grips on it to pull it out, they have an arrow head at the bottom. The chain is the key as well. Yes smooth rod on half of my stakes. In heavy soils they work and work well. In frozen ground they are awsome, go in fairly easy and come out much better than rebar. Great swiveling around the stake head. Notice zero trash on any of the chain.

[Rick]

TC, I've never been out West...and don't wanna start no trouble.

But what I've seen is what Bob said...the big N.Y. dogs would leave with that thing. The swivel keeps falling farther down the stake and getting another bite for 'em.

I love the rebar too...but just can't get away with it here anymore.

Rick.

[bobwendt]

trash, heck you western guys don`t even have trash. it`s like the kid pulls the knife on crocadile dundee and he pulls out this mammajamma blade and say eye, mytee, that aint a knife, this here is a knife!

[trappincoyotes39]

Rick no worrys just discussion, the thing is on my traps you can't get a bite on the rebar or the smooth rod. The sterlings have a big end on them swivels great but zero bite and the others have widened out MB swivels. These can't get hung up on smooth rod.

If in heavy rain and lighter soils I would double stake but I have lost very few coyotes with this setup less than 3 in many years and all where under heavy rain conditions. I always give a good hard pull and if I can't get it out by hand neither can the coyotes. You can get by with more and staking in heavy soils. In the summer they go in as hard as they do in frozen ground alot of times. That grey gumbo gets almost rock hard.

[bobwendt]

glad I`m not one of the 3. my record is zero in regard to stake pullers. I`ve had a couple from berkshire double stake holder failure. I cured that when I swiched to all chesnut rings from j.c. and cut off all the berkshire double staske rigs and threw them in the trash can. I tried to give them to wheelie free and he wouldn`t even take them.

[gunny]

TC, what kind of pan do you have on that modified Bridger in the first picture? Sterling pan?

[trappincoyotes39]

Just a reg pan on that one I do have some with PIT pans.

[johnthomas]

everybody had different results it sems from place to place, but my luck has always been if a stake is up a couple inches, then pretty soon im gonna be seeing some that are plumb gone, and i use 3 feet of chain. i never underestimate a coyote short chain or long lol. really nice pics and nice yotes. lol, quit usin them cast jawed 600s and maybe ya will quit havin toe catches.

[trappincoyotes39]

John those cast jaw traps work darn fine and with out them cast jaws that coyote wouldn't be there, I have many more full pad caught in the sterlings than toed caught for sure.

Soil guys it is all about the soil.

[kyboy]

Soil is a big factor in staking. I mostly use drags but where I live a cat, fox or yote wont get 10 feet from the set on a drag. As far as soil goes I had a yote get a 1 1/2 inch pogo more than half way out last season because of a hard rain It was on 18 inches of cable to. I was lucky. That was one of the very few "flat" areas that I trap. One of the reasons I use drags is the soil is so damn hard, rooty and rocky that you cant drive a rebar stake, let lone a disposable.

[TurTLe]

I'm with you Bob, I've switched 100% to Chestnut rings myself.

[Rod17]

come on guys...you can't look at a picture and make any conclusions about TC37's stakes. There could be 6 ft of stake below the surface . OK ,4 inches is showing and suddenly you think you can see thru dirt and make predictions about holding power.

His answer was right on...its all about soil conditions. With an arrow head on the bottom that stake might not be able to be pulled out with a tractor once it "sets"...just like a cable stake. His post was about trap mods.

I am a big fan of the Sterlings; they are a great traps.

However, someone made a comment about toe cathces and cast jaws...? I'd like to hear more about that relationship. Comments?

ShockLung

[musher]

Wouldn't a front foot catch have resulted in more stake showing?

Give us a few details about the camera. Dandy pics.

[foxman]

can u adjust tension on those things , the sterling that is

[trappincoyotes39]

Those hind foot catches they can exert quite a bit of power on rear foot they get boyh front feet to dig in.

The camera is a Sony 7.2 MP AND HAS 12X Optical zoom and many features almost like an SLR camera.

No need to adjust sterlings as they come with 3lbs of pan tension and if they need a touch up can be done with a file real quick.