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Post by lb on Jun 10, 2007 19:31:13 GMT -6
Scope is a Kahles 3X12X56. It's what we call a Nevada rig, set up special for night hunting. 22-250 Ackley on a shot filled McMillan benchrest stock.
Maybe not quite as good as a tricked out AR, but it's good enough.
Good hunting. LB
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Post by lb on Jun 10, 2007 10:38:30 GMT -6
Here, my grandkids demonstrate how it's possible to dump a coyote way out there. Rock solid benchrest, 18 pound rifle.
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Post by lb on Jun 9, 2007 11:21:28 GMT -6
Well, 500 yards has always been my practical limit, for several reasons, not the least of which is the time wasted on recovery. I like my 25'06Ackley, for this application, but I will take a shot at a stationary animal with my 18 pound 22-250 Ackley if that's what I have in my hands, at the time. With my particular load, I have not had any failures, that I recall, but I don't think it is ever a slam dunk killer, shot placement being such a critical factor. I'd like to think that I'm better prepared than most because I usually have a gun specifically set up for those shots and dialed in for that range, which, for me is 430 yards but does a decent job out to 500, with a little bit of luck and a calm wind.
However, the difference between this specialized rig and ANY AR I have ever seen is enormous. That's a pretty good poke, for an AR, if you ask me?
Good hunting. LB
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Post by lb on Feb 25, 2006 11:29:54 GMT -6
I'll tell ya. Sometimes I don't trust scientists. Witness the guy in South Korea that said he cloned a dog and putting Lynx hairs on adhesive strips attached to trees, starting huge forest fires, cold fusion, the list goes on and on.
So, they tell us that a coyote doesn't see color. Well, what DO they see, if it's not color? Like a black and white movie? I'm not sure what other humans see as blaze orange, perhaps I'm colorblind? Actually, I am.
They say that birds can see color, I think I believe that? A coyote is a fairly advanced mammal, smart, can do a lot of things well.
This definition of "being able to see" blaze orange means they see the same dayglow color that humans see. But, it doesn't matter if they see that shade or something else, if they can see it. In other words, it's not invisible. And, it doesn't match anything else in the landscape. Yes, I know they have special adaptations for hunting in the dark. I think a coyote sees blaze orange and can distinguish it from any other color, and they can tell that it's different from other colors.
It is my opinion that they see it well enough that, as with the deer that see hunters all over the woods beginning on opening day, wearing blaze orange, that they will shy away from splotches of that color, thereafter?
A coyote may not associate blaze orange with danger, but I think he sees everything quite well. Beyond that, we are trusting on the scientists to tell us what to think about Global Warming, carbohydrates, oat bran, good cholesterol; the list goes on, and they do not always agree.
Make that; they never agree, if you have watched a criminal trial with the dualing experts.
Unfortunately, we have to think for ourselves, in some cases.
Good hunting. LB
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Post by lb on Feb 24, 2006 22:06:15 GMT -6
I never hunted coyotes in blaze orange, but I do remember a long time back when Colorado had the same law, and I don't know if it changed or what? Must have?
I have had mule deer come through a saddle and look directly at me wearing blaze orange. And, no. I don't move. Whatever you think about certain mammals, excluding birds, that see in a monochrome, somehow, I think coyotes and deer can distinguish blaze orange as something that they can recognize as not part of the natural landscape.
Good hunting. LB
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Post by lb on Feb 22, 2006 13:59:15 GMT -6
Mostly, yes, you get clues watching the eyes and the behavior as they approach. Sometimes you make a judgement based on eye color. In both cases, you can be wrong. That's why you must identify your animal every time before shooting and the best was to do that is to actually light up the body just before touching the trigger.
I have no experience with reds, but gray fox tend to approach in little stutter steps, pausing for very brief periods and then advancing. By the time they get close enough to see the long tail, you already have a good idea of what is coming in.
In short, there is no 100% reliable way of knowing what is coming in, just based on behavior while watching the eyes. Experience is the best teacher. If you learn anything, it is that occasionally, you get fooled. Nine out of ten times, I'm right.
Good hunting. LB
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Jun 11, 2007 23:37:00 GMT -6
Post by lb on Jun 11, 2007 23:37:00 GMT -6
Somebody must be sniffing glue? edit: and it ain't Randy
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Jun 11, 2007 18:07:53 GMT -6
Post by lb on Jun 11, 2007 18:07:53 GMT -6
excuse me?
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Jun 8, 2007 11:58:21 GMT -6
Post by lb on Jun 8, 2007 11:58:21 GMT -6
Yes, personal taste is what it is. I don't like them for hunting predators. Especially ridiculous, at night, hunting from a rig.
My personal opinion, and I don't mind sharing it....and, BTW, they are ugly. LB
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Jun 7, 2007 14:43:11 GMT -6
Post by lb on Jun 7, 2007 14:43:11 GMT -6
Okay, I was exaggerating about the thirty round mag, and in some states they restrict the capacity to five. But, you can do that with a (non black gun) traditional sporting arm like a 7600 Remington. I think the quick follow up argument is a little overrated. I have managed to kill several animals responding in a group, with a bolt gun and I'm no expert, and definately not rich. That Cronk guy is Rich, not me.
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Jun 6, 2007 22:14:15 GMT -6
Post by lb on Jun 6, 2007 22:14:15 GMT -6
If this makes me seem narrow minded, I apologize.
I put a lot of stock in what a man carries while hunting predators. Just about anything is okay with me, bolt guns, encores, pumps, autos (self loading) like a Remington or Browning....but man, I don't like to hunt with somebody that needs an "assault rifle" with a thirty round magazine. There are a few exceptions and applications, I just mean; generally speaking.
Yeah, I tried it. Not impressed, I don't think it's seen the light of day in over ten years? Makes a half way decent home defense weapon if you don't have a shotgun.
Okay, start throwing rocks, I deserve it, I'm an opinionated sob.
Good hunting. LB
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Post by lb on Feb 26, 2006 11:26:16 GMT -6
Wrong once again, Amigo. The "facts" I refer to do not concern called coyotes, we are discussing a human endeavor. LB
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Post by lb on Feb 26, 2006 1:38:06 GMT -6
It only sounds simple because you have not grasped the facts. It would be a nightmare to organize, impossible to police, and wouldn't interest anybody. But why don't you give it a try, and see for yourself? Good hunting. LB
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Post by lb on Feb 18, 2006 11:35:27 GMT -6
"Or are contests just a numbers game for the callers, leaving behind educated, virtually unshootable coyotes?"
Yes, it's just a numbers game. Why do you assume that educated, virtually unshootable coyotes would be left behind?
A coyote that responds to a call is in danger. If he gets away, there is usually a good reason.
Can you kill a coyote that has been called before? Yes, happens all the time. When you dump your kill, you can't say that three were smart, deserving extra points, and two were stupid.
Any time you sit on a stand, there is a chance that you won't kill a coyote that responds to the call. Killing half of the animals you SEE is not a bad average. You should probably kill about 80% of the coyotes you shoot at. (some are running) With a little math, if you SEE 100 coyotes and get a shot at fifty of them, you will dust 40. The other 60 are not "educated, virtually unshootable. You could probably call at least half of them later, the same day?
Good hunting. LB
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Post by lb on Feb 17, 2006 13:20:34 GMT -6
This is just my personal opinion, but if it sheds some light on the proposal, I will attempt to draw you a picture.
First, it is difficult to level the playing field, so only a couple locals will know the area, intimately. The rest will know that they have a disadvantage, and a good reason not to waste their time.
The cost of these "friendly wager" contests run into hundreds of dollars.
That time of year, numbers will be way down and I don't like the total weight tie breaker anyway. First in line should break ties under that format. I can see the entire top ten having two coyotes each, with 2 coyotes, 65 pounds winning and 2 coyotes, 55 pounds in tenth place....okay, I'm exagerating a little bit.
Coyote dogs? I have never seen where any contest would allow dogs, and if they did, then it should be limited to those with dogs. A very narrow segment of the public would have an interest, entry fees would be sky high, or not worth the bother, considering travel expenses, etc. How would you screen the grayhound war wagons?
Basing the hunt in sheep country would be a waste of time, without enforcement, and if there were no restrictions on travel, so basically, it wouldn't matter and hardly anyone would be hunting the more difficult local area; maybe the local ADC guy would sandbag it, and that's what everybody else would assume.
Lastly, it would not address the purpose. People that pay an entrance fee want to win, not vacuum a specific area of alpha dogs. I can't even imagine the bragging rights as an incentive? It's counter productive, and the results would be meaningless because these guys will hunt scattered places and the benefit to the local sheep rancher will be miniscule.
That's as plain as I can make it. LB
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Post by lb on Feb 15, 2006 23:45:14 GMT -6
Trevor, I agree with Scott.
Seriously. There is nothing workable in your plan, doesn't have a chance.
Good hunting. LB
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Post by lb on May 8, 2007 16:00:29 GMT -6
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Post by lb on May 8, 2007 13:52:43 GMT -6
Nothing compares to night hunting predators for pure excitment, and anticipation, in my opinion. And, yes, I hear forces are at work to take it away from us. No justification, just liberal NAZI's doing what they do best.....control. Bastards.
Okay, maybe I'm weird, but the title of this thread reminds me of "Brokeback Mountain" for some reason?
Good hunting. LB
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Post by lb on May 7, 2007 13:22:07 GMT -6
We shot two half grown cubs in a tree, and stumbled onto momma while dragging them and proceeded to get totally lost in the rain, one night. It might have turned serious, except for some luck. I saw five cats together once in Utah, managed to get only one, which I'm ashamed to admit. I only killed three cats on one stand, one other time, and they all came from different directions. Don't remember the sexes? Love to see a cat come running in like a coyote.
Good hunting. LB
PS, just remembered, had to go up after those cats in the tree, they didn't fall out. Slippery wet piƱon pine.
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Post by lb on May 1, 2007 21:24:34 GMT -6
Yeah, it's sort of interesting, but the truth of the matter is that I'm more of a contest hunter and like you say, only seriously harvested fur back when you were in diapers. lol
Good hunting. LB
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