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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 22, 2015 5:05:23 GMT -6
Pam we don't like the term right winger, we much rather prefer to be called conservative LOL.
Big pool unless your making waves many will get left behind.
Still a lot of time left we shall see who emerges as the front runners.
Funny you talk damage walker has done in the state of WI, when we have a president who has done his share on the national and international level LOL.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 20, 2015 7:29:47 GMT -6
Tman you miss my point new technology is just as you state it,meet BIG difference in a new computer, TV etc and the NEED for energy for all to live their daily lives!
Many people,get Assitance for such in the terms of millions if not billions as well.
Succesful? What does that mean in this case? Solar power making far less energy at a higher cost? Smilar has been around for many,many years and yes new technology with it in California they have paint that has material in it to make energy, IF you have the money to buy such and IF you have the money to invest into the cells to store such and IF you have the money to convert it from DC to AC.
I liken some of this talk with E 85 fuel , man how great for the environment until we really break down the cost to produce such and then find out the govt was subsidizing it. LOL. Turned out not to be what they thought it would be. Now who is buying such? 3 miles down the road we have a co op still selling it why I do not know. gas is 2.15 and E 85 is 2.03 meaning it will cost you more to burn E 85 in your vehicle with the 15-30 percent loss in MPG. Yep that newer technology sure was something. Wonder how many car makers still making E 85 compatible engines? corn prices have done nothing but drop since the subsidy for e 85 was taken away.
3.60 corn and land prices around 10,000 per acre will not compute for too many more years!
My point is we know what has worked for many,many years and yes some new things might prove out to be a benefit for not only the environment but to keep energy prices more stable, doesn't make them all so.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 19, 2015 18:53:31 GMT -6
Tman compairing thr investment of radios,TV's and calculators to billions into power substations and their max output? not apples to apples at all.
Well if you have one great the problem is many people,in the US don't want this reactors in their neighborhoods.
No hype just the cost and how it gets transferred onto the consumer with higher rates that is just fact. I am all for wind power would create more jobs as they all need to be serviced and blades replaced all the time, as long as the cost per KWH is compairbale to what we have or had in the past. Clean coal is an option one with less cost but some want to see coal done away with all together. There is no cheaper new construction than a coal power plant. Wind is comming down in price as long as the bird people don't try to outlaw it next LOL
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 19, 2015 18:44:56 GMT -6
Yeh k9 okie cable was there I believe.
He did skinning and fleshing and stretching demos all day long on Friday. he also talked market and other topics as well while doing each species. he talked about the need for people to learn how to sew and dress wild fur and the future plans for a school just for wild fur in the near future.
I have been watching his demos for years and always come away with something for sure.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 18, 2015 15:41:44 GMT -6
Got back a little while ago from the Mo convention, for a Friday decent numbers, dealers down somewhat but many where selling things unless your moving DP coon traps LOL. Nice to see top lot stretchers come down from MINN picked up some of there wood forms, man he makes nice stuff!
Greg Schrdoer explained the coon and mink market very nicely. I always pick something up listening to him! Worth the drive alone,Heck even kept my 11 year old boy engauged with the topics!
Love that tail stripper he has ! Might have to try and fabricate one? The boy is pumped up for trapping season and that is he point so a fun day for sure!
Tom Olson as always was again there selling his items. Picked up a few things from him.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 17, 2015 17:19:00 GMT -6
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 17, 2015 17:07:10 GMT -6
Also look at the power output of the largest solar bank in the world as your link stated it creates 250 MW of energy and what is the cost of such?
Now compair that to the 4 unit coal fired power plant in council bluffs, Iowa that creates 1,600 MW of energy! Major difference in amount and cost! I am betting they could clean it up as well, also don't forget that mid american energy uses a lot of wind energy some of the biggest in the US by years end 39 percent will be generated by wind and they will be able to,produce 3,335 MW of energy from wind they own over 1,700 wind turbines in Iowa and the expansion is at a cost of 1.9 BILLION!
See the difference? They also know that using a multitude of energy Resources mixed old and new creates a stable energy system and at a cost people can afford. We all know energy cost are up big time and forcing out ALL COAL will only add to the burden of the U.S. not help it.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 17, 2015 16:55:53 GMT -6
Than we are talking California the state with the highest population in the US! LOL. Everyone come live in California but wait we have a ton of smog and no water LOL. Oh that is ok we will tax you to death for the benefit of living in out grrat state and tell you no weed eaters or BBQ grills.
Pam your source is India and I see a - sign behind them? Also 75 million is a drop in the bucket for a company like shell.
We have wind energy here in the U.S. look at Storm lake, Iowa, Wyoming and North Dakota then the problem that comes up are all those that want to save birds, wait you mean the wind turbines kill millions of birds annually? OH NO we can't use that either LOL.
Then we have nuclear energy yes let's use it with the technology and safe guards far better than it use to be, but wait I don't want any nuclear reactor in my neighborhood. Move it to the middle of now where they say yes that will work, Nope the cost to move the power down the line way too much for those looking to invest in such LOL.
Funny how we always want better yet we have run off coal and other energy resources for many,many years and most people can live with the options, except for the vocal minority just like we have with wind and nuclear LOL?
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 16, 2015 19:12:54 GMT -6
Buyers here are talking about not making offers on coon as some are sitting on them from the last few years.
Bobcats will be off as well 50-70 avg, otter not great either 30-35 tops. We have a commerical grade coyote except for 1-50 will grade better in this tough market . So look for 15-17 for avgs on mo coyotes. Thinking I will ship coyotes this year and try my luck unless things change for the better on coyotes.
Really doesn't matter as my son and I will be trapping once again no matter fur prices. Buying some top lot wood stretchers this weekend. Ordered some more bait and lure from Keg creek and we will be ready to,invest some time and money and enjoy ourselves. That is what trappers do, we aren't in it for the money but the fun times together and him learning more each year about animals, habits and trapping.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 15, 2015 5:18:31 GMT -6
Well looks like we all missed the boat all 4 sessions are booked for March 2016, one could still get in on some calling knowledge as tony tebbe offers his predator university courses. Shaving time off your calling trials and errors. www.predatoruniversity.com/predu/Welcome.html
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 12, 2015 11:43:11 GMT -6
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 10, 2015 15:42:44 GMT -6
To lead what and at what cost?
Funny your bring up water, ask those out west how we are doing with water LOL. Water will be the next gold before long out west and that is no joke.
Again our atmosphere doesn't hang around North Amercia either so the particals in the air, we can limit pollution and that is great but their has to be a cost to benefit ratio thought of,versus a line drawn in the sand and mandates applied to something we surely do not have ALL the answers to.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 10, 2015 15:38:10 GMT -6
The benefit of an October Killed coyote when speaking in terms of keeping prey species numbers higher for more than a mere second in time, is about nill.
Sorry that is just factual. Those fawns are now close to full grown, the ones that where killed in large numbers are already dead, the scope of an area one would need to cover and the amount of coyotes percentage wise one would need to kill to show any evidence that October killing of coyotes has an impact on the total for any REAL length of time well it would be a major under taking. Nothing more or less.
Again it takes me back to the point one trapper made his 3 weeks in ND had helped those cattle ranches out for the entire year I say to that BS. I know the area, the population of coyotes and for him to say he was picking up what the WS plane left behind well again BS. he is there in October when the population is at it's highest post mange, working a population based on 50 percent or more young of the year coyotes. He has the numbers to trap coyotes because he is ON CATTLE RANCHES LOL.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 9, 2015 17:36:42 GMT -6
Actually some are seasonal positions in predator control. The season would be March 1st/ August for the safest bet over a decent size district. You still have some tha fill in even after the early dens are taken out as the pups get Mobil Mid July so you get fill in or some that move up for various reasons, sheep moved a distance, wild fires displace coyotes as well and other factors, for the best bang for the buck though we are still talking the same window March/ August for the benefit of spring calver's and sheep men or to maximize wildlife recruitment of fawns of many species, not October no matter how we slice it.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 8, 2015 18:19:38 GMT -6
Tman it has been proven that people at some stations where data has been gathered has been changed to show a higher temp change than what has truly taken place.
Again if YOU or anyone thinks that North America can make a change to the the earths changes then so be it, I and many of others feel not the case. Now do I think we should do what we can without an adverse effect on business and costing american far more money from their pocketbook? Yet this entire global warming thing has been blown way over the top scare tatics used by many. Who thinks the earth will continue on for ever? Who thinks we can change it to last another 100,000 years? No one can make such a claim, the sun could burnout tomorrow and where all dead.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 8, 2015 18:12:27 GMT -6
Tman if spring time is the best bang for the buck as you have stated, then how can a dead predator just be a dead predator? You feel your getting the same net gain for a coyote killed in May and June versus Ocotber on the killing of deer fawns?
Think: If maximizing the deer Hurd is the most Imortant to the landowner or lease person then how can we make the statement that a dead predator is just as good in October and Novemeber as it is in May and June? The science and Facts will not show the same. Again unless doing wide spread control work your making just a mere dent in the population in the fall , as your working with the highest population in a yearly lifecycle of both predator and prey. Easy math really.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 6, 2015 14:16:50 GMT -6
To silly how EXACTLY?
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 5, 2015 15:29:43 GMT -6
There is 4,000 coyotes in wabasha county alone is there not?
From your link: From autumn until mid-winter, the pups leave the den and begin to search for their own territories.
Yet you claim little movement takes place? Your trapping on the micro not the macro so the effects one has on total population reduction over a large area means very little is done to control wildlife depredation in October. You have ingress and egress taking place because of the smaller tracts Tman. Your basis would hold true if you where do large scale predator control over a larger area but hitting here and there your going to have movement regardless of food, in the fall/ mid winter is a natural time for movement to take place correct?
Killing out those adults and dens in the spring time leads to far less migration until the time you plan on trapping them in October if your killing them back far enough to begin with. Fill in is at the lowest durring the summer months again that is fact.
The dead animal kills nothing concept works only when one is killing the "predator" over a larger area and you then keep infiltration to very low numbers because you killed out a suficant number over a sufficient aarea to keep killing to a minimum.
ADC practices carry over from domesticated stock to wildlife has been proven many,many times.
Predation on many forms of willdife is additive and not compensatory to the overall population. Again depending on when your killing those coyotes and the size and scope of the control work being done.
So again no killing a few coyotes in October on smaller holdings is not the same as effective larger scale den removal in the spring time regardless of the resource being protected. Again fur trapping and predator control are two very different forms of a harvest and outcomes and goals far different as well.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 5, 2015 11:09:46 GMT -6
Who is going to have to pay the 22.2 percent increase and who will not?
5.2 Billion for 1 of these plants 1 only! We could use 100 more?
Couple that 22.2 percent with rising cost for water,sewer,food and taxes and wages in the tank across the board and housing having a redirect on the market doesn't sound real rosary to me, Add in the added cost for many companies making construction equipment to be tier 4 compliant and many other countries who dominate the manufacturing of goods sector that could care less and have little EPA type oversight how does that empower the U.S. or north America for that matter? We become more dependent on cheap goods made overseas. People do not have the buying power with the increases for energy and other things to buy american .
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 5, 2015 11:07:14 GMT -6
Tell me how China cares?
Here are the facts.
The federal government is touting a new power plant in Mississippi as an historic advance in the fight against climate change. The facility, built in Kemper County by Southern Co. (SO), is the first large-scale coal-fired U.S. power plant built to capture carbon. To do that, it will convert coal into gas, then use the gas to power turbines, creating electricity. Instead of venting the resulting carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, the plant will turn it into a liquid, which will then be used to extract hard-to-access oil from nearby fields. U.S. Department of Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz calls Kemper the plant of the future and says the country could use 100 more of them. Perhaps. But there are good reasons to be skeptical.
The first question is whether the new technology will work as promised. Southern recently delayed to next year the date it expects the plant to become operational, citing among other things “unanticipated installation inefficiencies.”
Second is cost: The project’s initial 2006 price tag of $1.8 billion has risen to $5.2 billion. The energy it produces will cost more than $6,800 per kilowatt, compared with $5,500 for nuclear energy and $1,000 for a modern natural gas plant. Kemper’s ratepayers will thus see a 22 percent increase in their utility bills. Should local residents bear so much of the cost of developing a new technology, when it’s the country and the world that benefits?
Before Kemper becomes a model for future plants, the federal government will need to address those concerns. Successful operation will go a long way toward quelling legitimate worries about the technology. It will also counter critics in industry and Congress who say the Environmental Protection Agency’s proposed emissions caps on future power plants are unrealistic.
Costs matter, too: Moniz argues that future Kemper-style plants will be less expensive, as the technology is perfected. Yet that doesn’t address who will pay for what will continue to be more expensive than traditional coal-fired power production. Measured against the risks of global climate change, and the scale of action needed to ensure against those risks, Kemper is a reasonable bet. Before government and industry place any more of them, however, they have some questions to answer.
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