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Post by bobwendt on Dec 15, 2007 5:52:52 GMT -6
all true. my point being, why would anyone even read anything nta had to say about anything at all? I mean not like the ex v.p. of hsus ran a one time scam on them. they saddled up with him for yearsand years and years, in fact so long even in the face of obvious hard evidence, that nta can now be labeled with hsus, peta , etc. probably done more damage to trappers and trapping than any of the OTHER ANTI GROUPS. definition of anti. you tell me if fleecing trappers out of a million, for years and years and years, KNOWINGLY doesn`t fit then what possibly could? wills was the instrument, nta was the enemy amongst us. I`ll never trust them nor be satisfied till every officer, especially KATZ and SEFF of the wills era are gone. IF they have real trappers interest at heart, then resign immediatly and let the nta heal. as far this rdf media, they`ll get someone. no doubrt about it. that`s a given. hope he/she at least knows what to say and show, and nothing that can be twisted. if wills is involved, he has plenty of footage already that nta member trappers gladly sent him since nta advised and aproved it.......
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Post by trappnman on Dec 15, 2007 7:28:53 GMT -6
I agree 100% with Bob. When you lie continously- who believes them when they actually MIGHT be telling the truth?
flapmouthtrapper might have forgiven Kaatz for his actions and lies- but there you go.
and Seff, if she told me I was on fire, I'd continue to pump gas....
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Post by trappnman on Dec 15, 2007 7:34:26 GMT -6
and back to it- now some are boo hooin how selfish some are by not joining the NTA.
cause the NTA- now get this- protects trappers rights...
LOL....
where and when and how is all I want to know
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Post by HappyPlumber on Dec 16, 2007 11:29:09 GMT -6
I am definitly against any filming of trapping in the USA by anyone from the UK. This has to be an anti group as there is NOBODY in the UK that would go on record as publicly endorsing trapping or harvesting fur of any kind. Do your own research and you will find out the truth. HP
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Post by livefreeordie on Dec 16, 2007 11:50:01 GMT -6
Right on HP, and if this is Wills, I wonder how much of the catch footage library he already has will be injected into the film. Plain and simple, this is another attempt to undermine trapping, steer clear boys, this is a trap.
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Dec 16, 2007 12:00:31 GMT -6
I suspect they may have found someone, she was calling me frequently and has quit.
I told her my line was 6000-8000 elevation and lots of hiking which is true.
I was thinking about it the other day as I was busting a gut climbing a mountain to a cat set.
I'll bet sea level office people would have a heart attack. I know I'm exhausted each trip and I've been doing it for a while, plus I live at the elevation all year.
I hope whoever takes them is a good ambassador for us.
I hope it isn't a case of the hayseed meets the slicksters.
Joel
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Post by bobwendt on Dec 16, 2007 12:40:20 GMT -6
they are beating the bushes for the hayseed. remember when john grahm got hooked by a news broadcast? and john is a knowlegable guy. one consolation, it will likely show in england where I doubt they buy 10 cents worth of wild fur a year. one thing to be said for the russians and chinese, they don`t give a rats arse for antis or any of this garbage, as do not the upper crust italians and germans that use fur. so whatever hack job comes of this will probably not affect our pockets one iota, just raise our blood pressure. in reality most of this stuff is to generate funds. I don`t think the antis really want trapping made illegal anymore than nta wants it to stay guaranteed legal. it`s a cash cow for both groups and they know a good gig when they see it. probably in ka-hoots to make sure the money continues to roll on both sides. make a fire engine run here or there periodically to keep interest up. that`s probably all this is. when you yuoung guys get older you`ll see the game. like two opposing lawyers figuring how far each can get their respective client to go spending his last dime fighting the "enemy". yet both lawyers play golf and lunch togather , while back slapping about the two dumbarses they are hooking.
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Dec 16, 2007 13:17:50 GMT -6
Yeah I hope they don't eat some country boys lunch and leave him sittin' on the side of the road.
Joel
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Post by bobwendt on Dec 16, 2007 13:26:39 GMT -6
they will, but my intent above was I don`t think it will really change anything in the real world as far as hide prices or how long trapping lasts or doesn`t last.
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Post by SgtWal on Dec 16, 2007 13:56:53 GMT -6
PBS carries alot of the BBC "documentaries". If they make it it will show over here.
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Post by HappyPlumber on Dec 16, 2007 16:13:55 GMT -6
As near as I can tell now is that people who we origonally thought as friends actually were playing us for suckers and plan to bury us with our own words. Without mentioning any names we should be very cautious about this whole venture. The whole procedure is meant to be used against us. HP
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Post by akona20 on Dec 16, 2007 16:16:46 GMT -6
Happy Plumber why don't you start a new thread and publish exactly what you said in your last PM to me. I would like to comment on it in public.
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Post by bobwendt on Dec 16, 2007 17:12:04 GMT -6
lol.
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Post by bblwi on Dec 16, 2007 18:54:02 GMT -6
There have been postings and threads regarding this issue on several forums. I received e-mails from our WTA leadership regarding this contact over a couple of weeks ago. I don't know what our leadership has done, but I have not encouraged them either way on this, nor did I receive any personal phone or e-mail contacts from the UK. There have been postings by the NTA suggesting concern and restraint. Have there been similar contacts to the FTA regarding filming and is so have they drafted a position on this issue?
I am not privy to any other information and or correspondence but there seems to be communications taking place by individuals on this matter that many if not most are aware of or have knowledge of. It is hard to make correct decisions w/o all the information. Also as one poster stated they were now looking specifically for non NTA members, it seems they are going down the pecking order or trying to find a path of lessor resistance. How they got the contact information for those that were specifically contacted may not be hard to fathom with all of our leadership persons published in most of our print and websites, but they are now asking specifically for non association members from certain associations. I wonder if they have access to the lists so they can check to see if that is indeed true or not?
Bryce
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Dec 16, 2007 19:28:58 GMT -6
Interesting that they are looking for non NTA members. Probably because of the stance NTA has taken.
They are contacting a heck of a lot of people for a one trip deal. The gal I talked to never sent me the email about the project she said she was going to. I would have liked to have seen it.
If anybody else got one it might be good to post it. I don't think it would be a violation of privacy if it's a public documentary.
Joel
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Post by akona20 on Dec 16, 2007 19:33:17 GMT -6
I have some correspondence from a senior member of the group but given the last threat, shove it. Silly silly people.
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