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Post by Woodsmoke on Dec 7, 2007 12:50:22 GMT -6
k9 - seems she is calling Association presidents, at least that is the case with me and Joel, don't know about others. She got my name from the T&PC.
Kind of strange to me that they are trying to snag someone from places as far apart as VA and NV - figure if they had the trip planned for their reporter, as she claimed they did, that they'd be looking in one part of the world.
One thing she was emphatic about - they want to see someone with a lot of traps set to increase the probabability of a catch. Her words, not mine.
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Post by Woodswalker on Dec 7, 2007 14:03:49 GMT -6
Sounds like a golden opportunity to me.
How about taking them to that deep woods beaver pond - half a mile slog through swamp - to check a few 330s. Or maybe a couple miles on snowshows for some under ice sets. lol
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Post by akona20 on Dec 7, 2007 14:58:14 GMT -6
Well folks here is the story.
1. It is a history of the fur trade. 2. It will be from all accounts a correct and proper history without an anti bias (or so I am told). 3. The documentary is already in production with the fur farming industry already being filmed. 4. The documentary will be completed with the help of responsible trappers or who ever they can get. 5. They will be filming from December 17 in America on the trapping side. 6. I have provided full contact details to someone on here. 7. I am not involved at all I just tried to end the mystery.
The botttom line is that the documentary will be made one way or another and it will be better to have a dedicated trapper who knows his work to do it with them rather than letting some idiot with little knowledge do the WRONG thing.
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Post by livefreeordie on Dec 7, 2007 15:10:30 GMT -6
I believe it will be portrayed as such either way, anyone who does this will probably regret it.
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Post by akona20 on Dec 7, 2007 15:20:08 GMT -6
Well there is an opportunity and an introduction. In this case it will be better for someone who is a real trapper with some common sense to do the deed .
The regret will be if it is done by a fool because it WILL be done one way or another.
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Post by tweedledumb on Dec 7, 2007 16:31:50 GMT -6
Joel I would give Walt Gardener a call and see how his experience worked out with BBC cameras at the World Calling Championships 3 or 4 years ago. It was supposed to be a documentary on a taxidermist who was entering a national or world contest and was there to choose her animal. I avoided the cameras and never viewed the finished product.
Akona has a VERY good point.
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Post by Richard Nelson on Dec 7, 2007 16:37:16 GMT -6
I know one thing, am not smart enough to take them.
In my book that makes me pretty smart.
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Post by livefreeordie on Dec 7, 2007 16:40:22 GMT -6
Without control of editing, and final approval before release, I see no good coming from this at all.
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Post by akona20 on Dec 7, 2007 16:46:49 GMT -6
Well if you don't get into the game and listen about what is being said and ask the questions who knows what yuou will get or won't get.
At present the folks doing this sound like very reasonable people, i could be wrong but if you aren't in the game you have no way of controlling it.
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Post by livefreeordie on Dec 7, 2007 16:48:08 GMT -6
I just hate being in the game, and playing only to find out you were outside all along...sort of like BMPs......
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Post by akona20 on Dec 7, 2007 17:16:04 GMT -6
Well the bottom line is that folks have a real chance to do something here in a major program one way or another. In truth there is no downside because of the state of affairs. Fur farms are in, fashion houses are in, auction houses will be in so that covers the no wild fur side, if trappers don't want to be in or if some idiot decides to be in well I guess that is fair enough.
The opportunity is there do at least do something maybe the NTA will doing the right thing for the first time in a long time and work it out.
The door is open to the correct approach.
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Post by livefreeordie on Dec 7, 2007 17:29:26 GMT -6
The door is open to the correct approach. With all due respect Art, there isn't one.....
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Post by akona20 on Dec 7, 2007 17:48:23 GMT -6
With all due respects there is in relation to the documentary, as for the NTA who knows or cares, but you folks know best about this documentary that is for sure, yep let it go to some idiot who is sure to screw it up.
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Post by billmeyerhoff on Dec 7, 2007 17:50:15 GMT -6
Might be a good opportunity for trapping partners. One partner runs the line an hour before the other one does with the film crew. Nothing wrong with checking your traps twice in twenty four hours.
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Post by coyotewhisperer on Dec 7, 2007 18:51:41 GMT -6
Seems like a perfect opportunity to find out if Dobbins even has a trapline ;D
Jeff
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Dec 8, 2007 0:10:32 GMT -6
Thanks for the response Akona, she asked me to call her back and I've been out where the cell doesn't work.
I don't think that they would want to follow me around the way I trap so they won't be going with me. To rough, need ATV's and hiking legs, and no guarantee of a catch.
I do hope that they get someone that can present themselves well and will take the necessary precautions to make sure it comes out favorably.
Joel
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Post by akona20 on Dec 8, 2007 3:49:02 GMT -6
Joel, perhaps you are just the one to do the job. No sense in letting a culvert trapper show how easy it seems.
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Post by Woodswalker on Dec 8, 2007 5:25:32 GMT -6
I think the BBC will be fair in coverage of a documentary. I'd say it's a good opportunity for trappers.
It appears public sentiment is going our way anyhow. Look at this article:
"Fur-Free Friday" protests the quietest ever
THIS YEAR'S ANTI-FUR ACTIVITIES ON SO-CALLED 'FUR-FREE FRIDAY' marked the 21st anniversary of that movement and was described as the quietest ever. So quiet, in fact, that media coverage was almost non-existent. A red-letter day on the activists' calendar, when they go all-out to win public support for their cause with marches and demonstrations staged to attract media attention, this year's again proved to be a non-event, according to retailers and authorities in cities that were targeted. The main focus has always been New York City, with marches for a mile or so down Fifth Avenue and other main thoroughfares and raucous rallies at upscale stores along the route. At their peak in the late-1980s, the marchers numbered as many as 2,000 and the events were well recorded by the media.
But times have changed, as have people's concerns and the media's sense of what constitutes news and merits their space or time. Not only has the anti-fur issue given way to a resurgence in fur's fashion appeal and lost its news value, but the war in Iraq, continuing problems in the Middle East and other concerns closer to home have been providing enough fodder to fill pages and air time. But this year's activities themselves could hardly be called newsworthy in terms of either size or nature.
PROMOTION DEPT.: The Fur Council of Canada is launching a million-dollar newspaper advertising campaign across the country this week extolling the virtues of fur as environmentally friendly. The ads, appearing in national papers, feature a young fur-clad woman as an environmental activist and use such catchphrases as renewable, recyclable, biodegradable and non-toxic to depict fur as eco-friendly. The council also stresses the humane treatment of animals used to produce fur.
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Post by bobwendt on Dec 8, 2007 5:37:05 GMT -6
been bitying my tongue for quite awhile on this thread. the way I trap it would be no problem. softies, 24 `s and perfect everything. release unwanteds unharmed, perfect feet. you all have seen my videos. we never had to edit out bad stuff. you saw the real deal. no worries about "stuff going wrong". kinda what I`ve been preaching to the extended ckers and over powered, over sized steel trappers for what, 25 years now? maybe the truth just hurts if everyone is so scared to death to have a ride along and a camera. I had some aussies ride and film once in wyoming, no bad stuff from it. had the local indy star ( million readers) ,no problems, plus numerous others over the years. alweays gave trappers and trapping a good name. bottom line is if you have no problems and mind your mouth, only they can mess it up, not you or the animals.
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Dec 8, 2007 23:30:58 GMT -6
You have a point Bob. I don't have feet on cats that I would worry about. However that little teeny cat I caught the other day wouldn't look good even though it wasn't hurt. To cute.
Catch a kit fox and it wouldn't be photogenic in an hour unless caught in a #1. Thankfully I can keep most of them out with pan tension.
Joel
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