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Aug 30, 2016 7:26:56 GMT -6
Post by trappnman on Aug 30, 2016 7:26:56 GMT -6
this post TC, esp your last few- is exactly what I elaborated on when you asked in another thread. You just can't make things up- and yes, yes I know your candidate does, but thats not right either.
1) the point about govt involvement is the FUNDING> of course I don't expect the govt to have an entire team of contractors to build everything the country needs. I could make this point about every issue I raised- but lets keep it on roads. We have a system of interstate, federal, state, county, township and city roads. all paid for with tax money...... all managed by some form of govt. Could private industry do the same?
2) FACT: the Clintons have taken ZERO money from the foundation- and its a top rated charity
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Aug 30, 2016 19:27:57 GMT -6
Post by trappincoyotes39 on Aug 30, 2016 19:27:57 GMT -6
Yes we could have private roads as you would be charged to use them no different than many through state and federal govts. Called toll roads and we used to have toll bridges as well remember?
The Clinton foundation is again in the news seems one of their bigger donors is a guy linked to terrorism and one who is not even allowed in the country. Yet friends of Bill and Hillary? Hum. Top rated on performance by some I a, sure your 100 percent correct, they are not looking deep though just to see how much and where , but there is 12 percent off f the top for cost. That adds up to over 22 million annually fact as well. Where does the 22 million go?
One such place that ranks organizations said very tough to do a proper rating as all of their work is done in house?
In FACT I-70 is going to have to go to a toll road as the fed govt is not sending enough money to fund upkeep and repair s for this in the state of Missouri. So we ask do we offset with a toll fee or pat then tire bill through such?
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Aug 30, 2016 19:33:27 GMT -6
Post by trappincoyotes39 on Aug 30, 2016 19:33:27 GMT -6
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Aug 31, 2016 6:16:52 GMT -6
Post by trappnman on Aug 31, 2016 6:16:52 GMT -6
you want a system where you pay for each mile via all private roads and bridges (we had that for a while...didn't work out too well)- yet, you are against any gas tax raise
no- not a simpleton- a hypocrite.
I think you need a nickname-
TC- King of the Rumor Mill
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Sept 1, 2016 18:27:52 GMT -6
Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 1, 2016 18:27:52 GMT -6
Tman did you even read the MODOT report ? You know more than those working on the road system in the state? I think not unless you where an engineer in a past lifetime?
Do you even know what a yrd of concrete goes for these days compaired to just 5-7 years ago?
Making roads partial govt and private sector makes alot of sense, if they have the traffic they can be made and maintained for nominal fees. Instead of raising taxes every time the left says we need more,more,more.
You complained about high gas prices and how that effects people and we need alternative fuel sources due to the vile nature of fossil fuels, yet your more than happy to add .20.-30 per gallon for roads, which as cost go up and they do for repairs we just keep making taxes go higher and higher and higher? Makes little she's to me.
Allow a private business to control the cost better than the govt, as the govt is not do doing the road work so they are at the price of what the contractors state, a mix of taxes already in place or even may I dare say ,owed taxes could be had if you mixed into the private sector. That way people have a choice to use the toll roads or use other roads.
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Sept 2, 2016 6:45:25 GMT -6
Post by trappnman on Sept 2, 2016 6:45:25 GMT -6
you and your rumors- you aRe the King!
You complained about high gas prices where did I say that? why make shite up?
Tman did you even read the MODOT report ? You know more than those working on the road system in the state? I think not unless you where an engineer in a past lifetime?
Do you even know what a yrd of concrete goes for these days compaired to just 5-7 years ago?
wtf does that have to do with anything?
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Sept 3, 2016 7:35:54 GMT -6
Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 3, 2016 7:35:54 GMT -6
Because if you where to read the MO DOT report they are telling people the long term solution to fixing and maintaining I-70 is in FACT a combination of public and private mix for long term success. It has a lot to do with this. Interstates are concrete based and the price of concrete has gone up a lot in the last 7 or so years. To do a mile of concrete road is far more expensive today than 10-15 years ago. Many companies now reuse the old concrete and recycle it as a cost savings as well. But you do have the investment of the equipment to recycle such.
So private ownership of a road system can work and has been talked about not just here, in other areas as well.
Ok what is YOUR idea of the proper fuel tax on a gallon of gasoline and diesel fuel?
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Sept 3, 2016 8:45:38 GMT -6
Post by trappnman on Sept 3, 2016 8:45:38 GMT -6
where do all your "investments" come from?
entry and exit fees?
MO? a welfare state- like most GOP states- gets back over $1.50 for every federal tax dollar paid in. Not too sure MO is such a fine example
PS- MN gets LESS back than it pays in- here in Mn, we pay our own way- MO should try it.
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Sept 3, 2016 10:38:41 GMT -6
Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 3, 2016 10:38:41 GMT -6
The example is about bringing in private resources to keep the road working and in good condition. That is where private enterprise comes into play.
So where should the gas tax be?
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Sept 4, 2016 6:06:54 GMT -6
Post by trappnman on Sept 4, 2016 6:06:54 GMT -6
on gas
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Sept 4, 2016 6:20:19 GMT -6
Post by trappnman on Sept 4, 2016 6:20:19 GMT -6
an while I'm here- Trump will "hire the best"
too funny for words-
constant revolving door on campaign managers, and the latest chair and co chair alt right racists- and his "African American " friend Pastor Burns- who made a loud speech about lies and liars- turns out to be a total fraud and a textbook example of being a liar.
and his surrogates- "he didn't change his position, he just changed his words"
too funny........
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Sept 5, 2016 9:33:09 GMT -6
Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 5, 2016 9:33:09 GMT -6
Do you really want to go,into the people associated with either candidate? We could start with bill himself.LOL.
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Sept 5, 2016 10:23:35 GMT -6
Post by trappnman on Sept 5, 2016 10:23:35 GMT -6
yes, I really would like to go into who supports who
I like bill. I think it was bull for the GOP to impeach him- as I've said, good thing I'm not in office cause I'd have an investigation on what every GOP congressmen had for breakfast and work my way up
here is a fair question- what president in your lifetime, do you admire most?
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Sept 5, 2016 11:20:05 GMT -6
Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 5, 2016 11:20:05 GMT -6
You like Bill great, I found him to be nothing but a multiple cheat and a liar which again has been proven.
Lots of past presidents hard to say one and only one. Each had varying times in our history to deal with really. I could start with Washington and go from there.
Ones I do not a dire is easier , Carter as a prescient not good, Clinton a liar and cheater on his family, Obama's not a fan either too many lies as well. All factual by the way all of it.
Kennedy seemed to have a good grounded principle and was more middle than far left from what I know of him.
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Sept 5, 2016 17:23:28 GMT -6
Post by trappnman on Sept 5, 2016 17:23:28 GMT -6
non answer I expected
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Sept 5, 2016 18:56:59 GMT -6
Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 5, 2016 18:56:59 GMT -6
I see your trying to divert away we went from talking about roads and where you think gas taxes should be at per gallon to what is my favriotie president. I get it but no thanks.
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Sept 6, 2016 0:55:18 GMT -6
Post by PamIsMe on Sept 6, 2016 0:55:18 GMT -6
"Kennedy seemed to have a good grounded principle and was more middle than far left from what I know of him."
Kennedy didn't have to lie about his numerous affairs, or cheating on his family as you said, because NO ONE cared in those days. At least 20 Presidents (and probably more) had affairs in office including George Washington, and Abraham Lincoln. Nancy Reagan was pregnant when they got married. George Bush Sr, had an affair before he was President. Practically everyone on the impeachment committee for Clinton had had affairs in their lifetimes. But all of a sudden it was a big deal? Trump had an affair. Why isn't that a BIG deal??
Hypocrisy knows no bounds.
Pam
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Sept 6, 2016 4:32:19 GMT -6
Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 6, 2016 4:32:19 GMT -6
Clinton had many and most while holding govt office. Spouse cheating does not sit well,in my book Pam, weak people cheat and weaker people stay with those that do. Cheaters rarely do it once, that is not the norm.
You really think the clintons have a great relationship? After all of Bills affairs? What then does that tell us about Hillary ? If Bill worked as a auto mechanic at the local,Arkansas Chevy dealership think she would still be with him after all those woman?
Not saying trump is right either. But Clinton again did so in the roll of active govenor and president of the US and then lied about it.
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Sept 6, 2016 6:04:03 GMT -6
Post by trappnman on Sept 6, 2016 6:04:03 GMT -6
you want to talk politics- but you cannot even name a president you admire. NEVER ask me a question again- it will be ignored from here to eternity
you are tight Pam- hypocrisy doe have no bounds.
so now you are an expert on marital relations?
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Sept 6, 2016 17:06:23 GMT -6
Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 6, 2016 17:06:23 GMT -6
No I am an expert on the fact and Inhave been there personally Tman you cheat on your spouse you MIGHT forgive them once, which I could not but 2,3,4,5 times and you stay with them? How how is that possible? What excuse could the cheater have to their spouse that would be factual to condone this ongoing behavior?
I am sorry only works for so long and when it comes to matters as this, weak people cheat really simple, if you want to have a different relationship leave the one your legally bound to and get a divorce. Simple really. Too many people want to have the side action and yet show the Jones their perfect family or I stayed for the kids! Really? How often does that work out?
Hillary knew of all of these woman and she stayed with him, why? That is one question I would love to ask her why? I have my thoughts why for sure.
Again not a quick fling one time with an old flame, oh No he searched these woman out and for good reason. Weak,weak,weak.
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