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Post by bblwi on Aug 31, 2016 19:37:36 GMT -6
They don't sell carbon credits for roads, they sell carbon credits for absorbing and holding CO2 that is why they want grass land and or forest land as they hold the most CO2. The credit is bought by carbon issuers to offset their contributions.
Bryce
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 1, 2016 18:33:01 GMT -6
Yes I get the Caron credit deal, anyway you slice it it is a major scam thought up by some really good bean counters.
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Post by trappnman on Sept 2, 2016 6:42:34 GMT -6
"yes, global warming is a scam."...... TC, King of Rumors
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 3, 2016 7:32:24 GMT -6
No Tman take the words in contex please, I said carbon credits and tier 4 compliance is a scam and that is factually what they are. Global warming if that is what you want to call climate change so be it, is going to happen not matter what the US does. The climate changes every day and no 2 years are the same either.
We are to the point that any year we experience something well out of a so called norm, it will be blamed on climate change, yes the climate chnages all the time, earth is a massive planet. The dust bowl era was that climate change and from the effects of humans? we have experienced hard droughts, heavy and above avg snow falls for manynyears , super wet years in some areas, it happens and has happened for along,long time.
The carbon credits and tier 4 and all the rest will not have an effect on it not by ourselves that is just the facts. Carbon credits are set to become a 1 trillion dollar business.
Follow the money.
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Post by trappnman on Sept 3, 2016 8:40:46 GMT -6
G20 just signed major carbon emissions agreement-
glad you weren't there spewing your anti-science dogma
say- how goes your theory the sun revolves around the earth?
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 3, 2016 10:40:09 GMT -6
You skipped on by why is that? A trillion dollar investment deal? Fairly large sum of money correct? What are we doing with this trillion?
I am sure did flow the money! I am also sure this money will lesson the impacts globally on climate change as well....................
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Post by bblwi on Sept 3, 2016 21:01:39 GMT -6
Just because something or a new methodology costs more does not mean it is a bad investment for the near or the long term. I feel that investments in future potential be it costly or not is a good use of research, science and capital. We see our current supplies of commodities going up in price which means we invest more in old technology. I feel that a good portion of profits be they private or public sources should be geared for new initiatives. If we look at all the technology that has come from the research our federal government has initiated the private sector and citizens have benefited greatly from the investments. just look at the firearm industry that created all the various calibers, and weaponry through government contracts.
Bryce
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Post by trappnman on Sept 4, 2016 6:21:18 GMT -6
You skipped on by why is that?
I'm a happy guy..........
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Post by bblwi on Sept 4, 2016 12:04:52 GMT -6
In today's world economy of 55 to 65 trillion annually, a trillion is not a huge percentage of that total amount, so to you these things may appear costly but in reality it is not that costly to seek new and better options and maybe options that employee more workers.
Bryce
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 5, 2016 7:16:41 GMT -6
Again non one has answered where that trillion is going too?
Bryce if you think a trillion dollars annually on any economy is not a big deal then so be it.
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Post by trappnman on Sept 5, 2016 8:58:43 GMT -6
Bushs unpaid wars cost the country billions and billions- yet, you sit with your hands over your mouth, eyes and ears
I'm REALLY glad your view is not only the minority view, but getting more minor each passing day
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 5, 2016 9:14:59 GMT -6
Tman what are a few billion when a trillion means nothing?
Living in the past will do you no good. The trillion dollar investment into carbon credits is the here and now. Where does the trillion go?
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Post by trappnman on Sept 5, 2016 10:33:58 GMT -6
Living in the past will do you no good
(insert icon of head exploding)
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 5, 2016 11:04:35 GMT -6
Where does the trillion go again?
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Post by bblwi on Sept 5, 2016 21:17:16 GMT -6
I did not say it was not a lot of money but in relation to the money in the world economy today it is in reality not a huge deal breaker. As to carbon credits being a scam, I am sure that when the stock markets were created there was talk of that as well, along with the CBOT, CME or any investment methodology. There are always many naysayers and if you retire on SS or use Medicare than you are the recipient of the benefit of those investment funds.
The stock market allows firms to be able to gain capital without borrowing money to grow and expand. Selling carbon credits allows companies to grow and expand in a world working to lower carbon impacts.
Brce
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 6, 2016 4:23:11 GMT -6
Bryce I still,find it to be a scam the stock market you investing in real tangible goods, Carbon credits your investing in air. Air that is hard to quantify to,know what the real,impact of a Trillon dollars is on that air.
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Post by trappnman on Sept 6, 2016 6:13:33 GMT -6
a value of a company, changes radically hour by hour?
back and forth and back and forth- the stock goes up and down- and you stay the same- but those buying and selling are making millions off the TRANSACTIONS in both directions.
in todays world, the stock market is nothing but a scam.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 6, 2016 17:08:37 GMT -6
Tman have the stock market crash and we shall see what kind of scam it is or is not. Betting the latter.
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Post by bblwi on Sept 6, 2016 20:32:11 GMT -6
So in your eyes Face Book at 40 billion is a good economic investment and carbon credits for a manufacturing business is not?
Bryce
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 7, 2016 5:00:30 GMT -6
No in my eyes we are investing money in air! and your so called rich are getting rich off of air! The greatest scheme of all time really when you think about it, how do we quantify a change for the better with carbon credits? This has been a hamper on business for anyone to say not well is not dealing in reality. The middle income person pays for the cost of investing in air we do all know that correct?
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