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Post by bblwi on Jun 24, 2014 15:28:24 GMT -6
So a bold and bravidosio nickname is what gets you to be more competitive? You can't get much more mundane than the Packers, named for guys who cut and packed meat and yet they are called title town due to many championships. The NFL has some huge issues regarding safety and health and the fact they want to hold tight on names is not going to help them. The fact that the USA, Portugal soccer game was the most televised soccer game in the USA and the youth participation growing exponentially may spell some long term issues for the NFL. Many times organizations etc. make their most noise right before their slides.
I also question the mindset of some that giving way in one area leads to another sector's demise. It is like for some that any change is liberalism and that is a bad thing. I have witnessed unpresidanted change in agriculture and agriculture products and I would not classify those as liberal by any means. In fact the movement to save the small family farms and the resulting grants to support that are far more liberal then the rest of agriculture is.
Bryce
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Jun 24, 2014 17:59:34 GMT -6
Bryce the world,cup is a special event hold it every year and see if the numbers stay the same, doubt it.
Soccer offers schools a few things cheap to get into, lower insurance, and games can be played in many months where football is a fall thing only.
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Post by thorsmightyhammer on Jun 24, 2014 18:24:01 GMT -6
they all seem to be left out of the current firestorm- is there a reason, or simply overlooked? if there is a reason, and I think there is- perhaps its in the difference between one being a racial slur through the past 200 years, and the others not? Oh no they havent been left. UND Sioux finally had to drop their name. They probably got pushed on harder because they are a state funded school and the NCAA finally told them if they didnt drop their nickname they would not be allowed to be in any playoffs. Its coming down the pike. But hey none of the liberals like FWS can say how that is gong to fix the endemic problems in the indian community. Hell I find it kinda offensive as a father of four daughters every time the sam e pervert posts pictures of have naked women on here.
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Post by thorsmightyhammer on Jun 24, 2014 18:26:14 GMT -6
The reason why soccer is gaining popularity is because fo the pussefication of america.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Jun 24, 2014 19:33:49 GMT -6
Sooner the only major sport that is decided by penalty kicks if need be, I say we should play the World Series, tHe Super Bowl and the Stanley cup and if tied we can end the championship on longest HR by a series of batters for each team, the Super Bowl can be decided by field goal kicks longest made one wins and the standby cup can be decided by shoot outs I am sure fans would love those endings for a championship. Or better yet just end it in a tie then that way no team feels bad.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Jun 24, 2014 19:35:49 GMT -6
I agree the fighting Sioux was a stupid attempt to show control by a small group of people and the NCAA caved in.
I want the fighting irish gone as I am 50 percent irish and I don't like to be associated with fighting being the only thing Irish folks do, I find that holy offensive, what are my chances of winning? NONE would be the correct answer.
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Post by blackhammer on Jun 24, 2014 20:21:36 GMT -6
I been hearing about soccer become America's game for years. Don't let an overadvertised world cup get you thinking soccer is on it's way to becoming popular here. It is popular for kids to play not for people to watch. Football has it's problems with health issues but soccer is basically a nothing sport here that espn sometimes shows on Saturday morning. I've heard it all before. Maybe if the USA won the world cup it would make inroads. But the USA is ranked thirteen in the world in soccer right now. No pro league in the states for years. Maybe I'm wrong but this was the talk 25 years ago and how did that work out. Good to see a guy bit someone today in a game. Guess the guy has a history as a biter. lol Some guy they call the canibal. What a sport.
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Post by bblwi on Jun 24, 2014 21:15:49 GMT -6
We all picked up on the kids playing and that is the important thing. So what if it does not become a huge deal, having millions of youth playing competitive sports is a good thing. If it is a poor spectator sport so be it. Good for kids to compete and be active. The NFL is popular because it is taylor made for TV and you can watch the 5 second plays 3 or times before the next play is run.
Bryce
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Post by PamIsMe on Jun 25, 2014 2:28:01 GMT -6
" Don't let an overadvertised world cup get you thinking soccer is on it's way to becoming popular here.."
Maybe not pro soccer but kids soccer is really big in our area. The football coaches weren't too thrilled when boys started going out out for soccer instead of football. Both our daughters played soccer all through school and one still plays when she gets the chance. The US is probably one of the few countries in the world that doesn't love soccer above all else. I was in Ireland once during the World Cup and they went wild watching it in the pubs :-)
To me its like any other sport, if I have a kid or know one who is playing, I love to watch the games. Otherwise it doesn't interest me much.
Cheers, Pam
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Jun 25, 2014 4:12:53 GMT -6
We have a pro team the sporting KC. Tr,am won the MLS cup Last year they are an hour away, everyone says you need to go they are fun but I need to go to the mosh pit they call it where everyone gets drunk and crazy if I need to be drunk to watch soccer then not my sport. Love a cold beer but no need to get hammered at a sporting event if the even is exciting enough
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Post by Jarhead620 on Jun 25, 2014 5:12:27 GMT -6
I agree, watching soccer is kinda like watching paint dry. Even watching a turtle cross the road is more exciting if there is a little traffic.
Back to the Redskins: Since there is no conceivable racist intent in the team name remaining in place the whiners lose. All the pathetic plaintive wailing is really getting embarassing. Case closed.
Jarhead
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Post by trappnman on Jun 25, 2014 8:04:19 GMT -6
damn it larry- how is it any different from a team being called the Kikes?
if I call someone a black person- is it ok if I mean no harm, that I was just using a widely recognized word, albeit in my mind, non offensively?
But hey none of the liberals like FWS can say how that is gong to fix the endemic problems in the indian community.
damn straight- and whats it going to do for the Middle East?
or maybe, the cure for the endemic problems might be a move away from sanctioned racist slurs?
nah- frick em!
Hell I find it kinda offensive as a father of four daughters every time the sam e pervert posts pictures of have naked women on here.
hopefully you are not letting them use your account, this site is not for, nor has ever been for kids.
and if they are old enough to be on this site- why then, pics of women in bathing suits, is nothing they are not seeing daily on the internet, on TV, at every public event.
simple question-
are racial slurs ok, or not-
no more, no less
and you can argue that "redskin" isn't a racial slur- but history shows you that is false. The majority of Indian communitys
so facts....or opinion.
heres some facts-
the many organizations supporting the lawsuit include the Cherokee, Comanche, Oneida and Seminole tribes, as well as the National Congress of American Indians, the largest intertribal organization, which represents more than 250 groups with a combined enrollment of 1.2 million.
“The ‘Redskins’ trademark is disparaging to Native Americans and perpetuates a centuries-old stereotype of Native Americans as ‘blood-thirsty savages,’ ‘noble warriors’ and an ethnic group ‘frozen in history,’” the National Congress said in a brief filed in the lawsuit.
It was a white man who applied it to this particular football team: Owner George Preston Marshall chose the name in 1932 partly to honor the head coach, William “Lone Star” Dietz, who was known as an Indian.
“The Washington Redskins name has thus from its origin represented a positive meaning distinct from any disparagement that could be viewed in some other context,” NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell wrote in June to 10 members of Congress who challenged the name.
Marshall, however, had a reputation as a racist. He was the last NFL owner who refused to sign black players — the federal government forced him to integrate in 1962 by threatening to cancel the lease on his stadium. When he died in 1969, his will created a Redskins Foundation but stipulated that it never support “the principle of racial integration in any form.”
And Dietz, the namesake Redskin, may not have even been a real Indian. Dietz served jail time for charges that he falsely registered for the draft as an Indian in order to avoid service. According to an investigation by the Indian Country Today newspaper, he stole the identity of a missing Oglala Sioux man.
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Post by trappnman on Jun 25, 2014 8:06:21 GMT -6
why are conservatives, so strongly in support of continuing racial slurs?
anything for the base, I guess-
(my tit for tat concerning liberals)
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Post by Jarhead620 on Jun 25, 2014 11:20:55 GMT -6
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slursNote the second paragraph in the introduction. This is relevant to my position on this issue. Kike in it's origin referred to Jewish immigrants signing papers on Ellis Island with a circle, an indication of their illiteracy. Is that more or less of a slur than "Redskin?" At any rate the list will provide one with a handy and exaustive choice of words that you may or may not want to use to insult a deserving person. Jarhead
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Post by trappnman on Jun 25, 2014 11:35:51 GMT -6
well....I do use Cheesehead as a slur....but not against the Dutch
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Post by thorsmightyhammer on Jun 25, 2014 20:54:19 GMT -6
If you noticed, I said its a racial slur and I dont care if they change it.
Kinda silly they dont.
In fact, i wish they would and all other teams named after a tribe. Than maybe they, the protesters and organizer would tackle the real problems plagueing their community.
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