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Post by bblwi on Nov 17, 2013 13:54:56 GMT -6
I could get used to $4 fuel etc. if the wages we earn would keep up with the costs. It is foolhardy for us to believe that the most wealthy and affluent nation in the World's history is not going to have increased costs due to demand. Right now we have such low inflation that it is actually causing almost "stagnation" and delflation like Japan has had the last 15 years. The only things that go up are those that are impacted by global demand and or natural occurances and politics.
there are more milenials than baby boomers and they have a much different view of the world then we do and a much different idea of what they want for and out of life and their families. That generation will do just fine and sure they will struggle to take care of 60-80 million older people with the depression and post WW11 mindset but sooner or later we will all die off and the new older generation will be more conservative then they are today but much more social and cultural based then we are today. Over the next 20-35 years therew will be trillions in wealth transfer to US citizens who have far different ideas of how to gain and share wealth then we do. I am not nearly as worried about our future with the younger 200 million US citizens as I am being able to live through the next 10-20 years of my life with all the divisive politics based on bias, narrow focus of who is worthy and who is not worthy and what constitutes hard work or credible work. The baby boomers are the most diverse and also large generation in our history. They vary from much like their depression parents to commune hippies and all flavors inbetween, with a large mix of ethnicity to boot. The TEA Party may be the last loud yell for a white, male dominated society. They best make some inroads soon as they have 10-20 years and that will be long, long gone.
Bryce
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Nov 17, 2013 14:01:00 GMT -6
Bryce sounds like you to me your looking for the system where no one is graded in life we all get a P for Passing?
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Nov 17, 2013 20:22:27 GMT -6
What's wrong with a white male dominated society ?
What sex and race do you prefer? Serious question.
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Post by bblwi on Nov 17, 2013 22:20:59 GMT -6
I am not stating that I prefer all that I have written or see but from what I see, hear and read that is what I interpret it to be. Why is it when a person puts out a statement about what they feel is taking place in our culture or society many automatically believe that is what one wants or aspires for? I don't always understand the narrow focus that many read into what people state, especially when they are statements regarding what one thinks is taking place in our society. I guess it comes back to the very human idea if what one hears is not what they believe it is either wrong or the persons making those statements don't adhere to the patriotic values of what the US should be. I also have learned that we can all go through extremely rough times and come from very poor backgrounds and fight for every nickel we earn and we can all develop totally different philosophies on how best to resolve the issues of our lives and our nation's future.
Ditto, Joel on the male dominated political culture dissappearing. As male I think like a male and that gives me an automatic gender bias but when one studies the demographics, who lives longer which means more votes and who will retain more wealth and the increase in minorities as they are coming for work, safety and education, they are younger, have more children and are getting better educated as well. It is a matter of fact more then it is a desire to see white male protestants become politically less powerful.
Bryce
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Post by PamIsMe on Nov 18, 2013 0:12:42 GMT -6
"What's wrong with a white male dominated society?" If you were a woman or a minority race you wouldn't need be asking that. LOL In my kids generation the lines are blurring. I see men who do the cooking, help with kids and housework, and women with fulltime jobs and careers who love the outdoors and hunt and fish as well as housework and kids. They are sharing responsibilities and decisions and they both contribute to their relationships. Why does any one gender or race need to be "dominant"? What would be wrong with things being EQUAL in representation? I think that's all anyone (at least the women I know) really want. "In 2010, there were 96.7 males for every 100 females in the United States, representing an increase from 2000 when the male-to-female ratio was 96.3 males for every 100 females." Or what would be wrong with a female dominance, the men haven't really done such a wonderful job in the past . Cheers, Pam
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Post by PamIsMe on Nov 18, 2013 0:42:30 GMT -6
"I have a senior he will be off to college next fall and then 2 more girls gone after him each year and they have a plan except for my sophomore daughter she has yet to decided her life course. "
TC I have to admit I'm impressed with that. Anyone that can decide what they want to do for the rest of the lives at such young ages deserves much credit. No way at 18 did I have a clue, nor did the Beav, which probably explains why neither of us finished college. In my day options for women were pretty much teaching, nursing or secretary. I didn't want to teach or be a nurse (crappy salaries and crappy hours in those days) so I ended up choosing 40 hour a week secretary instead of finishing college. And the same goes for our oldest daughter who couldn't decide. The younger one wasn't sure either (in fact her HS guidance councilor told her she may not be college material), but she stuck with it until she did decide at least what field she wanted to go into. She's the first one in either of our families to get her Master's Degree. We told both our daughter's we would pay for school as long as they got decent grades. So,the youngest graduated in Biology without any debt and my part time job pretty much paid for it. For grad school she was on her own, but being one of those frugal people you mention, she was able to get her Master's in Wildlife Biology without any debt either.
Steven, we are really the lucky generation in that most of us have kept one job or occupation for most of our working lives. Things are changing quickly and that's not looking much like it will happen anymore. So for those, the ACHA has a good provision, if COBRA isn't an affordable option (and I have a friend for whom it wasn't anywhere near affordable) the ACHA says: "If you leave your job for any reason and lose your job-based coverage, you can choose to buy coverage from the Marketplace. This is true even if you leave your job outside the Marketplace open enrollment period of October 1, 2013 to March 31, 2014." I'm guessing that's a cheaper option than COBRA for most.
Pam
Pam
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Post by trappnman on Nov 18, 2013 8:16:50 GMT -6
lots of silly in this thread, thats for sure!
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Post by thorsmightyhammer on Nov 18, 2013 11:03:48 GMT -6
i prefer heterosexual sex joel
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Nov 18, 2013 20:14:13 GMT -6
Pam I knew what I wanted from the time I was 14. The jobs have changed but I needed to be outdoors and something to do with wildlife. Hence my college time was spent for those careers. My oldest son chemical engineering he can have many different jobs with that degree, run the gambit for many business types. My daughter is all about vet school. Will take her 8 years and a pile of money but when she is all done large animal vet which their is a very short supply of. SHe should do well for herself.
My idol is my wife she has 2 master degrees the last she received was after having 3 kids and working full time and still graduating with a 4.0 GPA at age 36. The brains come from her not me LOL. My other daughter is a gifted artist and while she still hasn't decided yet as a sophomore I think graphic design or such as her artistic abilities are very good.
I want them all to be happy no matter what but I also don't want them wasting a dime on secondary education that will leave them with debt and a low paying job. 20 years of paying off loans is no fun.
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Nov 18, 2013 20:21:49 GMT -6
Bryce my point is that if I would have made the same remark about, say, a black female dominated society I'd have been vilified as a bigot.
I hate political correctness.
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Post by bblwi on Nov 18, 2013 21:11:31 GMT -6
I don't like political correctness either but if we had a black female dominated society I doubt much if you would be villified too badly for making the statement. It always seems that we pick on those with the power and the authority and that in the USA today is not black females.
Bryce
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Nov 20, 2013 5:52:20 GMT -6
That is a lot of what political correctness is about.
It's ok to disparage whites, Christians, men, guns, etc.etc.
But don't you dare say something negative about a minority...........
I've never owned a slave, or had any say about my race or sex so I'll be damned if I'll apologize for what I am or mince words.
Pam, I don't consider women to be minorities.
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Post by bblwi on Nov 20, 2013 9:12:36 GMT -6
Why does it always come back to slavery? No one alive in the USA that was born here has ever owned an Afro-American slave and many of those have chosen to embrace political correctness. There are more examples of minority ethnic groups, religious groups, sects etc. that are part of the whole political correctness issue than those who want to concentrate on slavery and the guilt of that and why we are overly sympatthetic to their issues and needs. When one looks at the population 150 years ago of slaves and that is now about 4-5 generations it would take some time to become financially viable when you had no wealth, no history of wealth, little to no education, no vote and hiring practices that discriminated against you for over 100 years. Much was fostered by our government as late as WW11 in the military. Based on how we have treated the ofsprings of slaves I would say they have been doing as well as we allowed them to do based on our treatment and laws. Sure there are examples of looking for the handouts but then that is not an issue of minorities that is an issue of reverse capitalism, how I can get something for nothing is not a minority issue.
Bryce
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Nov 20, 2013 21:24:09 GMT -6
I agree with your first statement. I've never shot an Indian or mistreated a woman either.
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Post by trappnman on Nov 22, 2013 17:12:28 GMT -6
Joel, I agree with you- but........
I dislike pcnessm but at the same time- if something offends someone, why would I want to offend them?
If I see an ugly person, I don't say wow, you are really freaking ugly- or tell an obese person you are the fattest slob I've ever seen-
nor would I, if an ethnic slur offends a group of people, use that as well.
why would I ? what does it prove? isn't lifes goal, or at least my goal, to simply BE a good person?
It doesn't offend me, to hear a pollock joke- but I had relatives that it greatly offended.
sotory..I once was downtown, had a little glow going- and was in bathroom and these two guys were telling a pollock joke- I got burly and said hey, i'm a pollock, and that offends me! they said sorry..and started talking to me in Polish... I laughed and said eh, I'm not quite THAT Polish. all ened well as they were from my hometown, and we had mutual friends.
but bottomline, if something offends someone- why would we WANT to utter it?
but at the same time- such things should be by nature limited- and I agree- it seems sometimes that anything one says, offends.
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Nov 22, 2013 21:21:46 GMT -6
I don't say offensive things about people either, or at least don't try to.
But I figure if other races want to get butt hurt about it then why can't I do the same?
None of us had any control over our race or sex, I really am pretty color blind in real life.
I'm just not blind to political correctness where it's ok to say one thing about one group but not the other.
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Post by trappnman on Nov 23, 2013 7:25:19 GMT -6
hasn't every race, been on the end of racial slurs?
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Nov 24, 2013 23:44:49 GMT -6
Yup, it's just that some slurs are PC and others aren't.
For instance if I called you a cracker you'd probably laugh it off, if I called you a ni--er you wouldn't .
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Post by trappnman on Nov 26, 2013 8:31:48 GMT -6
doesn't it all come down to familiarity Joel?
which mitigates tone and intent?
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Nov 27, 2013 8:50:35 GMT -6
Yes, but PC allows one to look the other way when maleovolent tone and intent are voiced by certain segments of the population or about certain segments of the population.
If the same things are said by the other side it's cause for histrionics.
There are things like the Congressional black caucus, black student unions, black college funds, etc. etc. etc.
Can you even imagine a Congressional white caucus? Why is one OK and the other not?
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