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Post by robertw on Oct 4, 2010 21:06:37 GMT -6
With otter, I have often witnessed family groups of five so....if possible and I think the numbers are there I'm going to put in five sets.
In Wyoming I would often witness three coyotes together at a time so.....I made a habit of setting three sets at a time.
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Post by Gibb on Oct 5, 2010 3:55:43 GMT -6
It depends on the condition you trap under, the right location with multiple traps takes every otter that passes. For me trapping otter is all done under the ice. When I say 3 sets they may be a mile apart or 100 yards but I am targeting the same family group. For sure in open water you may want to change your set-up a little after a catch or two but under ice at a beaver dam you can over time harvest every otter on that watercourse. Jim
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Post by trappnman on Oct 5, 2010 7:26:48 GMT -6
agree hump-
1000%
had the same thing happen- ALL LOCATIONS WERE HEAVILY GANGSET,
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Post by thebeav2 on Oct 5, 2010 7:32:34 GMT -6
My question Is this. When you say you caught the first otter coming across the cross over then the rest of the otter saw there buddy get caught and went around the set. How do you know that happened. It's lie saying I had a coyote work my set on Monday and I missed him but I got him on Tuesday.
I can see if you had snow you could read the sign but In open water unless you were there you would have no Idea. Sure the set could go dead and you might assume that Is what happened but you don't know for sure unless you actually witnessed It.
I have had many doubles on otter and mixed doubles with a otter and a beaver at cross overs. I always set the high side and the low side of the cross over. I'm sure I miss some but do to a huge otter population and countless miles of swamps that can't be accessed I don't think I'll hurt the population.
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Post by trappnman on Oct 5, 2010 9:20:11 GMT -6
true-
tracks in mud tell sometimes but I'm basing it on a well used trail takes an otter, then becomes dead, and the remaining otter over that location, are caught at minor trails or new ones.
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Post by humptulips on Oct 6, 2010 0:46:55 GMT -6
My question Is this. When you say you caught the first otter coming across the cross over then the rest of the otter saw there buddy get caught and went around the set. How do you know that happened. It's lie saying I had a coyote work my set on Monday and I missed him but I got him on Tuesday. I can see if you had snow you could read the sign but In open water unless you were there you would have no Idea. Sure the set could go dead and you might assume that Is what happened but you don't know for sure unless you actually witnessed It. I have had many doubles on otter and mixed doubles with a otter and a beaver at cross overs. I always set the high side and the low side of the cross over. I'm sure I miss some but do to a huge otter population and countless miles of swamps that can't be accessed I don't think I'll hurt the population. Well yea, I can't say for sure every time but I have seen it in snow and at other times by reading sign I think I know what happened. Not sure on an individual set but often. You see the for sure ones and the probables and the evidence starts to mount up. I guess I've drawn conclusions based on partial evidence,changed the way I set because of those conclusions and it helped my catch,so decided they were the right conclusions.If it hadn't helped my catch I would say I had it wrong and started rethinking the whole thing.
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Post by thebeav2 on Oct 6, 2010 7:34:56 GMT -6
In my opinion the whole thing depends on the population your dealing with. I think In my situation with extremely high populations I didn't encounter this avoidance Issue. It might have happened but with so many otter traveling these water ways It never effected my catch that much. Or maybe Southern otter are not to smart LOL
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Post by trappnman on Oct 6, 2010 7:36:52 GMT -6
i think you are probably right- populations might indeed be the answer to the differences in observations here.
here, the population is low
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Post by blackhammer on Oct 6, 2010 8:29:09 GMT -6
I know O'gorman for one has stated when the canine populations are low there spookier to trap.It's mother natures way of ensuring their survival.Don't not if it's true or not but it make a little sense.I suppose lower pops lead to less competion for food and habitat and may make animals less inclined to be aggressive. Or it may just be trapping is easy when you have a lot of animals.LOL
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