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Post by trappincoyotes39 on May 3, 2010 16:00:43 GMT -6
1. Use a tool that simply won't allow much to no chewing to take place on it's foot. 2. Submerse them. 3. Set in areas of under story brush 4. Don't allow them access to their feet. 5. Drag them.
Each will depend on the terrain in which one is trapping and the technique used, the equalizer is the trap that can overcome any and all obsticles.
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Post by trappnman on May 3, 2010 16:17:03 GMT -6
no, none of that works- and i know cause the bmps tell me that NO stock 1.5 coil is adequete for the job no matter what is odne, that methods dont matter and blah blah blah blah by those that SHOULD know better
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on May 3, 2010 16:51:47 GMT -6
1.5 staked in the open works for you then so be it!
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Post by Stef on May 3, 2010 17:29:29 GMT -6
From what I've seen so far without drowning the coons... DP traps and/or #220-160
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Post by trappnman on May 4, 2010 6:43:02 GMT -6
1.5 staked in the open works for you then so be it!
huh?
the point is, it works for NO ONE. THus, the protocal designed to fail!
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Post by rk660 on May 4, 2010 13:51:55 GMT -6
1.5 staked in the open works for you then so be it!
works just fine for me, just gotta add a good doublejaw to the trap.
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Post by wheelers on May 4, 2010 14:38:01 GMT -6
No anyone who sells them
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on May 4, 2010 14:44:27 GMT -6
Exactly RK
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Post by trappnman on May 4, 2010 14:50:23 GMT -6
exactly?- wow TC, when you miss the point you miss it by a mile!
double jaw is not a reg jawed trap- and that the whole point of this disuccion- that the bmps protocal could do nothing BUT make regular jaw traps fail- as I strongly suspected they wanted to do- but i'll refrain from going so far as to say the idocy was planned.
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Post by rk660 on May 4, 2010 14:59:00 GMT -6
I just might!, or, if your handy you can make your own also. not a real big deal either way if a guy wants to go that route.
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Post by trappnman on May 4, 2010 15:04:34 GMT -6
again -no complaints about anyone using double jaws-
if you need or want to set many coon traps in wide open areas staked solid, by all means use what you need to satisfy your criteria..
I don't think I have set a coon trap in the open for a couple of decades or more (not counting water) and thats a lot of coon and coon sets over the years- and it angers me, that my trap of choice, the trap that has probably taken more coon than any other trap- is deemed unacceptable, not qualifed as an humane coon trap by the vet council and those on the bmp either too ignorant to know, or to scared to speak up.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on May 4, 2010 15:20:33 GMT -6
Good enough, keep on keepin on Tman.
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Post by thebeav2 on May 4, 2010 15:28:12 GMT -6
So all you high rolling fox and coyote trappers that trap In coon country what kind of traps do you run? Are they all set up with chew guards In anticipation of catching a coon.
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Post by trappnman on May 4, 2010 15:38:54 GMT -6
no-
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on May 4, 2010 15:44:17 GMT -6
No becuase I have very few coon in this area. I would like to test 4 coiled #3 bridgers in areas of higher coon densitys in coyote areas with a jaw guard welded to the outside of the jaws, pan tension would dictait where on those traps to weld the guard IMO. I don't think I would have any issues with coyotes.
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Post by thebeav2 on May 4, 2010 17:41:09 GMT -6
So If you welded a rod across the OUT side of the jaw would that cause problems when you tried to set the dogged jaw. I would think that the rod wouldn't allow the jaw to be depressed far enough to let It be set. Now If It were In the INSIDE of the jaw I see no problem.
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Post by Wright Brothers on May 4, 2010 18:13:18 GMT -6
On the inside they get broken bones. Geometry, physics, common sence.
On the inside also compounds the throw out "theary".
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Post by thebeav2 on May 5, 2010 7:53:16 GMT -6
Outside on the jaw faces? Or outside Inside of the jaw faces?
I have a hard time believing a animal will break It's leg as long as the trap Is able to move with the animal. I can see If the trap became Immobile that the animal could flip over and break a leg but not In a well swiveled trap chain set up. And I have a hard time believing the positioning of the chew guards will have this effect.
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Post by bobwendt on May 5, 2010 8:38:51 GMT -6
again, I could say how to trap coyotes and no coon chewing, but no one beleives it or wants to do it. been there done that. I do 100+ coons give or take each jan in ks in my coyotes sets. all in the open, staked solid. most sell taxidermy for lifesize, i.e. 4 good feet. this year the tax market tanked and poor tim rose put up a bunch of coon for me for the fur mkt. with all 4 feet still on the hides. I guess he cut them all off.
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Post by trappnman on May 5, 2010 8:48:47 GMT -6
Bob if you want to give advice, then do so- but what purpose does it serve, to keep saying you know, but won't post on it?
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