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Post by coonboy on Nov 16, 2008 21:08:36 GMT -6
does anyone have a good beaver lure recipe? I've caught a few beavers and would like to make some lure from their castors. Thank you
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Post by possumblaster on Nov 16, 2008 21:13:08 GMT -6
I'll give you one from memory that was given to me by Jerry Joe Barnett.4 oz. ground castor, 2 oz. glycerin, one teaspoon sodium benzoate, one capfull of Lysol CONCENTRATED cleaner.Makes good mound set lure. Food lure, just add 10-12 drops of birch or poplar bus oil to this recipe. Good Luck
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Post by thebeav2 on Nov 16, 2008 22:07:29 GMT -6
Open fresh castors scrape out contents add enough glycerin to form a paste and go out and catch beaver.
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Post by Woodswalker on Nov 17, 2008 6:41:17 GMT -6
When skinning beaver I keep a few cotton balls and a plastic baggie handy.
If some castor is squeezed out, or around the opening of the gland, I just wipe with a cotton ball and pop into the baggie.
At the set, I dip the cotton ball into the water then put it on a handfull of mud. Also add a few twigs of aspen partly peeled to look like a strange beaver had been feeding there.
This set works great for getting the big beaver!
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Post by braveheart on Nov 17, 2008 9:56:35 GMT -6
Just srape out the caster and add a little oil sack oil.You can add a little Parrafin oil if you want.The first and only bv lure by Ron H.
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Post by thebeav2 on Nov 17, 2008 11:52:40 GMT -6
I tried adding sac oil to castor and didn't like the sour smell It caused. Adding oil to castor IMO Isn't natural they are two different smells and are used for different purposes. Now Oil on It's own Is a great change up.
But If adding them together works for you go for It.
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Post by braveheart on Nov 17, 2008 18:04:16 GMT -6
It must be a wis. thing to smell sour like old chesse.I used it in N. Iowa and caught several hundred bev.And my friend has caught 300 a month off of big rivers and small streams with it.You don't put a bunch in just a little to get the texture you want.Oil sac off of breeding boar bev. is best a slight red tint to it.I always save some back.To each there own.
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Post by coonboy on Nov 17, 2008 19:50:11 GMT -6
so thats it? Just scrape the castors add a little oil sac and go catch beavers? No birch oil or poplar oil or tonquin? No big secret ?
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Post by beaver23 on Nov 17, 2008 20:13:07 GMT -6
thebeav you said you didnt like the sour smell it put off?i thought the idea was produce what the beaver liked not the human.from what i have heard about braveheart he is not trying to steer any one in the wrong direction.
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Post by thebeav2 on Nov 18, 2008 8:13:00 GMT -6
thebeav you said you didn't like the sour smell it put off?i thought the idea was produce what the beaver liked not the human.from what i have heard about braveheart he is not trying to steer any one in the wrong direction.
In my way of thinking Oil Is used for grooming and water proofing the beavers fur. Castor Is a scent used as a Territorial marker. So In my opinion It's not natural to mix the two. I don't think the beaver mixes It sac oil with It's castor when making a sent mound. There may be some residual oil from It's feet or fur at the site but not In the castor. I have made a castor based lure mixed with sac oil and It didn't preform as well as the straight castor type lure that I ended up with.
"You don't put a bunch in just a little to get the texture you want"
Well If that's the case then It probably doesn't have much effect on the smell of the castor. I just use enough glycerin to get the right texture.
Take some castor straight from the beaver give It a sniff test, add sac oil does the castor still smell like the natural castor? I will put my beaver catches up against anyones I'm just telling you what works for me. If adding oil to your castor works for you so be It.
so thats it? Just scrape the castors add a little oil sac and go catch beavers? No birch oil or poplar oil or tonquin? No big secret
Yep that's about It. Sure you can go out and play around with adding this and that to your castor base but In a nut shell straight castor will catch about anything out there.
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Post by conibear1 on Nov 19, 2008 6:16:54 GMT -6
I agree with you Beav! I've done it for years just as you've explained! I also have a jar of Lenon's, Dobbin's and Pederson's beaver lure in the bag as "fun change ups". I want to try XXXL next for the "fun" factor too.
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Post by trappnman on Nov 19, 2008 8:13:41 GMT -6
I cannot imagine that both odors aren't present......
I've always had good luck taking the castors and oil sacs, chopping them up, and mixing in a base.
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Post by thebeav2 on Nov 19, 2008 10:32:37 GMT -6
Probably, and you can catch a few beaver on anise oil too. Oils sacs will taint If you put them in your lure. Unless you use some type of preservative.
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Post by JWarren on Nov 19, 2008 11:13:49 GMT -6
Oils sacs will taint If you put them in your lure. Unless you use some type of preservative. are you talking about chopping the whole sac up? does it still taint if you just squirt the oil in
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Post by Woodswalker on Nov 19, 2008 11:49:04 GMT -6
If a beaver is castor shy you can use a few drops of oil without castor.
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Post by PamIsMe on Nov 19, 2008 11:50:46 GMT -6
In my experience oil sacs will taint with out a preservative added. Now the oil by It's self will not taint. One of my best bait/ lures for coyotes fox or cats are oil sacs that have been stripped of most of the oil and let to taint. I call them slurpies. Work great In dirt holes or flat sets.
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Post by thebeav2 on Nov 19, 2008 11:54:03 GMT -6
Good point woodswalker. The oil by Its' self Is a great change up for those castor shy beaver.
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Post by trappnman on Nov 19, 2008 16:19:37 GMT -6
oil sacs taint if mixed with castors in lure??
whatever- don't know how you store things or how long you have them- but never noticed that problem at all- dry them til almost dry, chop them up and mix- its not complicated and it will not scare beavers.
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Post by trappnman on Nov 19, 2008 16:20:47 GMT -6
do you really think, that the beaver despost its casotr, and leaves no scent of itself including oil?
Could be, but I don't- I think its impossible to do so.
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Post by thebeav2 on Nov 19, 2008 18:59:28 GMT -6
It makes no sense to dry the oil sac when you can just strip out the oil and bottle It up. Sac oil doesn't spoil no matter how long or how you store It . But once you add the sac then you can have tainting problems. The same with the castors, If you don't remove all the red membrane that encloses the castor you will have tainting problems.
I'm sure the beaver will leave the sac oil odor where It works a castor mound or where It comes out to preen It's self. But I feel It's a mote point since the castor Is the dominate odor at a castor mound set. I still will argue the point that the beaver doesn't secrete both oil and castor when marking a mound.
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