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Post by sRc on May 11, 2008 20:11:22 GMT -6
Is there any reason why fiberglass screen cannot be used?
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Post by robertw on May 11, 2008 20:14:59 GMT -6
It can be used but it is not an adavantage on larger traps (in my opinion) like steel screen.
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Post by sRc on May 11, 2008 20:17:27 GMT -6
Not stiff enough . . .
(Edited-3 question marks give you a "shut up" smiley. I didn't intend to put that on the post)
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Post by robertw on May 11, 2008 20:21:19 GMT -6
Yes, to limp.
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Post by thebeav2 on May 11, 2008 20:29:46 GMT -6
It will work just fine on smaller jaw spreads. But for larger traps It's of no value. The stiffer steel screen Is better used on larger traps like #4 sized traps. I tried It on 1.75 and #2 sized traps and It was a mistake In my opinion.
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Post by sRc on May 11, 2008 20:36:35 GMT -6
I was planning to stick with the pan plug on 1.75's and use screen on victor 3's.
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Post by sRc on May 12, 2008 22:33:07 GMT -6
Locally, I found aluminum screen but no steel. Is it also too limp?
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Post by Bristleback on May 13, 2008 0:01:34 GMT -6
IMHO, aluminum is NOT stiff enough, I used steel screen then moved to the coated steel screen from OG.
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Post by motrapperjohn on May 13, 2008 7:30:52 GMT -6
There is different grades or wieghts of aluminum screen, I get the heavy stuff from Lowes. I havent found the steel.
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Post by Bristleback on May 13, 2008 12:19:27 GMT -6
OG offers steel screen/non coated.........far better than aluminum.......and black coated steel screen. The coating makes it even stiffer. I have no problems with the coated screen and prefer it. Others have commented on the coated screen being too stiff to their liking.
One thing you can do with aluminum screen is wax it, it makes it stiffer......but I found it a pain, when I did it several years ago.
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Post by Stanley on May 13, 2008 13:58:36 GMT -6
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Post by romans117 on May 13, 2008 18:19:19 GMT -6
I used screen and it was ok. Not as good as wax paper. I ditched them all for peat moss. Peat moss without the sticks no cover needed. IME Thanks Bill I mean Phil.
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Post by thebeav2 on May 13, 2008 18:42:33 GMT -6
When you use screen you are trying to enlarge the kill area.
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Post by blackdog on May 15, 2008 9:50:43 GMT -6
Dump the screen!! Put a little polly under the pan! Troy
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Post by motrapperjohn on May 15, 2008 10:26:41 GMT -6
Still small kill zone
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Post by Bristleback on May 16, 2008 0:07:08 GMT -6
Since no one took me up on my offer a month or two ago on my polyfil........I still have some. I'll likely hang on to it as a last resort.....the dang stuff cost me a few coyotes this winter, made some waxed sand, dang sand was too fine, went through my steel screen, so I used poly under may pan, then screen as usual.....rain-freeze-thaw-rain-freeze.........had a few coyotes track up a couple sets...........WHAT!........I couldn't trip the dang trap with a 4# hammer.......wax sand was perfect.......the darn poly was brick hard solid under my pan. I've since been told I used too much under my pan? GRRRRRRRRRRRRR! Please, just don't tell me it won't freeze.....LOL
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Post by trappnman on May 16, 2008 7:23:38 GMT -6
BB- by the way....you are coming to FTA?... on your poly offer- I don't like open bags- had problems with the only open bag (stored off season) I've used, so take no chances and buy a bag each fall- its so compacted and you use so little (LOL, sorry BB), I've never run out over a season. Then, I just throw whats left away.
As far as amount, it does seem as though many use way too much. A piece the size of a mothball is all you need- pull it out and it doubles in size and is thin and airy. While it does freeze, its so fragile that it alone, will not keep the trap for firing.
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jbg123
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Post by jbg123 on May 17, 2008 10:03:17 GMT -6
If you line the trap bed with good waxed dirt, the moisture shouldn't even come into contact with the Poly-Fil, unless the traps sit there with water laying on the trap bed, and then it will eventually wick through I imagine.
Waxed sand isn't as good as waxed, heavy soil. Screen works well, but if you decide to use it waxed, I have saw where it created a perfect rectangle the shape of it either drier or wetter than the surrounding dirt. This will cause more refusals that can you can imagine at times.
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Post by Bristleback on May 17, 2008 13:55:24 GMT -6
TMan...I'll check and see if I have any unopened bags left......if so, they are yours, poly is free, delivery is extra....LOL. Also, you're probably right those, Duke 1.75 coyote catching machines probably don't use much poly.....(LOL, sorry ) I fully admit I may have used too much........but to say it won't keep a trap from going off........WRONG, I witnessed it this Jan with 3-4 sets......me stomping on it wouldn't trip it, 4# hammer smack wouldn't set it off.....pulled the trap out of the WS, which was virtually like sand on a 90 degree day in KS......(not froze a bit).....had to get a screw driver out to dig the dang poly brick out from under my pan.......rock solid frozen......WS on top, sides, below the trap was fine......so fine you could see the coyote tracks all over As to WS or WD.....I sure like the way WS packs better/beds a trap....over WD......BUT WS is ? how many times heavier, grrrrr JBG123, as far as moisture reaching the poly, I don't know....these were in deep step down sets, just trying a few new things on some sets.....one thing for sure is, I don't touch a set once it's been made with WD or WS......rain, snow, freeze, thaw...........virtually no worries what so ever, no remakes due to "weather"........
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on May 19, 2008 14:03:39 GMT -6
Tman you also bed with a trappers cap correct?
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