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Wind
Jan 30, 2008 21:29:16 GMT -6
Post by trappnman on Jan 30, 2008 21:29:16 GMT -6
after a week of 35-45 mph, gusts to 50 winds- I thought a lot aobut wind. Wind as far as canine movement, wind as far as lure calling, wind as ?.
So wanted to start a thread on wind- and wanted to know your thoughts on it in any way you want to go-
Comments?
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Wind
Jan 30, 2008 21:36:07 GMT -6
Post by motrapperjohn on Jan 30, 2008 21:36:07 GMT -6
It sure will clean the covering off your trap if you dont have at least an inch. and if you put your trap on the north side of the road during a north wind its garanteed to blow from the south!
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Jan 30, 2008 21:44:22 GMT -6
Post by coonhangman1 on Jan 30, 2008 21:44:22 GMT -6
Wind blows pretty good in this area of the country. Helps push the lure WAAAY out there....
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Jan 30, 2008 21:45:14 GMT -6
Post by JWarren on Jan 30, 2008 21:45:14 GMT -6
my thoughts: gusts to 50, you never saw wind lol
seriously, the snare loaders disappear other than that not much
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Jan 31, 2008 0:46:19 GMT -6
Post by foxcatcher1 on Jan 31, 2008 0:46:19 GMT -6
I try to play the wind as much as possible but sometimes location of sign and eye appeal trump wind direction when choosing set locations.
Don
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Jan 31, 2008 4:25:55 GMT -6
Post by Mud Turtle on Jan 31, 2008 4:25:55 GMT -6
Another obstacle, thats for sure. Close to 50 mph here yesterday, and kept me hanging low.
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Jan 31, 2008 5:19:41 GMT -6
Post by jdp4202007 on Jan 31, 2008 5:19:41 GMT -6
great for calling yotes can't hear ya coming but at 50 mph i go and call tree groves
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Jan 31, 2008 6:07:20 GMT -6
Post by Possum on Jan 31, 2008 6:07:20 GMT -6
I live in the flatlands and sort of like the wind. Gives you something to lean on.
Makes it a bitch to sift peat moss on a trapbed, however.
I always set for the prevailing westerlies unless I'm setting a new area and I know the forecast is for winds from another direction for the next few days. I make lots of first/second night catches. I also set for varying winds in some locations -- such as putting a set on each side of a field lane. Wind switches, the coyote will still smell the set -- assuming he's running the road, not out 4 wheeling in the field.
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Jan 31, 2008 7:51:31 GMT -6
Post by 17HMR on Jan 31, 2008 7:51:31 GMT -6
If it blows hard all night my catch % gos way down, but a lite wind is great.
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Jan 31, 2008 7:54:57 GMT -6
Post by Stef on Jan 31, 2008 7:54:57 GMT -6
Noticed the same thing here too
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Jan 31, 2008 8:52:33 GMT -6
Post by coydog on Jan 31, 2008 8:52:33 GMT -6
I don't do good on real windy nights at all.
I would guess they don't move much because it makes a mess of two of their main hunting senses, hearing and smell.
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Jan 31, 2008 9:19:10 GMT -6
Post by thebeav2 on Jan 31, 2008 9:19:10 GMT -6
I don't worry about the wind . I set on location and set more then 2 traps so I feel I have most aproaches covered.
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Jan 31, 2008 11:01:59 GMT -6
Post by Traveler on Jan 31, 2008 11:01:59 GMT -6
I rarely pay an attention to the wind simply because in this country I've seen it change to 4 different directions in an hour time span.
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Jan 31, 2008 11:05:14 GMT -6
Post by garman on Jan 31, 2008 11:05:14 GMT -6
I don't worry about the wind . I set on location and set more then 2 traps so I feel I have most aproaches covered. Exactly, if east west road set each side and prevailing wind will be right either way. I always double or triple set location anyway. Then if is a catch, I believe most other K-9's circle the caught one and sooner or later get caught. But also high wind catch seems t go down here, was the same way coon hunting, coon just seemed to lay up.
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Jan 31, 2008 12:45:20 GMT -6
Post by mr. finch on Jan 31, 2008 12:45:20 GMT -6
i play the wind as much as possiable.i also like my sets to be flashy enough that if he cant smell it he can see it. and i allways set on sign. doing all that keeps me skinning for sure.but with the winds we have had here latly catch does go down i think they just tend to lay down till the wind dies down. i know i want to..lol
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Jan 31, 2008 14:15:10 GMT -6
Post by dabrock on Jan 31, 2008 14:15:10 GMT -6
Wind here is contantly switching, so do'nt pay much attention to it. however I do sit both side of area. high wind catch goes down.
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Jan 31, 2008 14:54:23 GMT -6
Post by trappnman on Jan 31, 2008 14:54:23 GMT -6
Wind here is a minor factor.
Its not real windy here to begin with- not western wind- so we have as many calm nights in season as windy- in fact, more calm or slight variable breeze days than "windy" days. So I don't pay much attention to it- and make sets that cover all possibilities.
But I have one thing in my favor. Coyotes here, have plenty of continuous type habitat. That is they don't have to go to far, to be in both good cover and good hunting habitat. Wind, unless gale force winds, doesn't really factor into my methods here. Coyotes are moving, and if they come through- which since I'm setting up where they SHOULD be moving, I do ok.
Western coyotes have big areas- its big country thats smaller "choice habitat" and lots of same type big wide open areas- thewy don't come around everyday.
One factor of wind that is debatable in my opinion, is its worth as far as carrying lure. Say you have a strong wind blowing straight over your set continuously- how much attraction, does that lure have? For sure, it would be in the wind- but would it be in the wind in any usable way? Would it leave a scent trail in the air to that set? Would a canine even be aware of the scent from ANY distance away from it?
I honestly say no. I don't think it could. I think that within mere feet of that set, that the scent would be so dissipated that a coyote walking 10 feet away wouldn't have a clue.
any thoughts on that?
I think you NEED the calm, to make scent work. I think THATS why on windy nights, the catch goes down. No night is 100% calm- and nights like that- are when scent patterns can reach out and attract- the old hobo following the pie scent trail to the windowsill scenario.
So add in that as someone said prey animals work less on windy nights, and coyote senses don't work as well.....
I didn't make a lot of flat sets in KS, and thinking on it, never caught a coyote in one. Best location gave me four- 2 in 1, that double and a nearby flat set untouched. Also had one there the last day that left me a chunk of neck hair. So at least 5 opportunities, and none worked the flat set. I think they never knew it was there.
Its the main thing I've learned the last 2 years with my little western trips. You either need a readily visible set, or you need a location that gives the scent time to work. Or both. Or trap where there is no wind- and out west, don't know if thats possible.
Comments?
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Jan 31, 2008 15:44:00 GMT -6
Post by redeagle on Jan 31, 2008 15:44:00 GMT -6
Where I live, the winds are so variable that it is futile to try to set up on a prevailing direction, which is supposed to be northwesterly this time of year. The wind is an enemy rather than a friend because it blows all the leaves around and will bury your sets under 3 inches of leaves in a day's time- dirt holes get filled up, trap beds filled up. I've had snapped traps with nothing but leaves in them due to a critter stepping on the pan but pulling out because the jaws are held apart by wads of leaves. You uncover your traps one day only to find them buried yet again the next day with more leaves, thanks to the wind. I do best when there is little or no wind.
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Jan 31, 2008 16:56:55 GMT -6
Post by JWarren on Jan 31, 2008 16:56:55 GMT -6
they can smell a man at 300 yards in 60mph winds, why don't you think they can smell strong lures in similar conditions?
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Jan 31, 2008 17:48:50 GMT -6
Post by trappnman on Jan 31, 2008 17:48:50 GMT -6
they can smell a man at 300 yards in 60mph winds
please list the study. I'd pay money to watch that dog find a man 300 yards away, in 60 mph winds.
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