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Jan 31, 2008 18:16:20 GMT -6
Post by garman on Jan 31, 2008 18:16:20 GMT -6
Well I do not know about a man in 60 mph winds, I did watch a show I believe like "americas most, or unsolved mysteries" where a young girl was kidnapped and driven down an interstate, then to an exit, etc. That day or so they took a bloodhound to track where she was last seen,etc. that dog followed the scent molecules and skin cells that went out the air conditioner of the car she was kidapped in. This along with myself owning hounds and seeing them wind a coon from @400-600yds in @20-30mph wind I can believe that the scenting power of k-9's to be great.
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Jan 31, 2008 19:15:27 GMT -6
Post by trappnman on Jan 31, 2008 19:15:27 GMT -6
yes- a very good tape- saw it also and it impressed me greatly- but thats different circumstances.
600 yards? 1/3 of a mile?
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Jan 31, 2008 20:27:48 GMT -6
Post by garman on Jan 31, 2008 20:27:48 GMT -6
yea I am guessing because it was night and sometime ago but I would guess 1/4-1/3 of a mile. The coon was a lay up, another different situation is watching drug dogs stick their noses in the nose of a filled gas tank and sniff a bag of dope suck in the full tank of gas. I know different situations but none the less still a testament to the fact how good noses on k-9's are, seems it could be possible that periods (during the 60 mph winds) the dogs would be getting whiffs of the human, at least I am just guessing and above all that is all this is guessing.
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Jan 31, 2008 22:08:10 GMT -6
Post by trappnman on Jan 31, 2008 22:08:10 GMT -6
don't get me wrong- I know canine noses are suberb
but they aren't magic- and many times I've watched fresh scent "disappear" when it sohuld be right there.
Think how many starts you get, per treed coon. Or how many bunnies get started, andf how many come around.
Good hounds have higher %- but all lose scent in bad conditions.
the film about molly the bloodhound- that situation worked- how many similar ones led to failure?
and keep in mind- just picking up an odor (lure at sets I'm talking now) means nothing- he has to be able to follow that scent trail- and in high winds- would that trial exist.
I've literally seen dozs of times hounds trailing a bunny across blacktop or concrete, sand or dense pine needels- but for each success- many, many x's the losses.
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Jan 31, 2008 23:43:18 GMT -6
Post by JWarren on Jan 31, 2008 23:43:18 GMT -6
You do any calling tman?
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Feb 1, 2008 5:52:28 GMT -6
Post by romans117 on Feb 1, 2008 5:52:28 GMT -6
I have calling experience that suggests wise yotes can detect man at distances of 300 or more yards. Young yotes or non-pressured haven't associated the smell with the threat. IMO Wednesday i set up with a south wind blowing my scent directly into a plum thicket 100 yards away. You guessed it. Once call and out he came. Not alarmed. I wish they were all that way.
Skunky lures or big baits. Dead cows, gut piles, etc. really put out a big scent trail.
Having raised bird dogs for 16 years the more wind equals less scent pattern. The exception is a damp day. Even with dampness (not rain) anything over 20 mph is going to be a long day unless your talking coveys. But on single birds in field trial competition almost impossible to find birds consistently.
Having said all that I think few animals will be caught if I am not spot on with location. I generally set two with one on the north and one on the south wind.
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Feb 1, 2008 6:08:55 GMT -6
Post by jdp4202007 on Feb 1, 2008 6:08:55 GMT -6
this summer i watched a coyote while i was bailing hay and he was traveling across with the wind on his side pretty soon he turned with the wind and about 20 to 30 yards later he found a dead snake but the wind was only about probably 10 to 20 mph
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