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Post by trappngreys on Jul 13, 2007 9:44:26 GMT -6
I use 2 lures on my cat sets too, usually a mild lure like a gland or curiosity lure and a lure with some skunk in it like GHII. My catches went up after i started doing it this way.
K9s I use only one with pee.
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Post by bill1306 (Phil) on Jul 13, 2007 16:23:12 GMT -6
I'm like rk, I use lure, bait, cat turds, cat pee and feathers or hair, sometimes one lure, sometimes two. With two sets close together different baits, lures, and different visual attractors at both sets, even if they are just a few feet apart. Sometimes I will mix it up with a box and a scratch up set within a few feet of each other. In boxes I always use at least two different lures in the box and sometimes I use a essences lure above the box for a long range attractant.
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Post by bobwendt on Jul 13, 2007 16:52:04 GMT -6
I had a weird thing happen to me last feb. I set a snare in a tight trail thru a cedar thicket,tracks in the snow. went 6-8 feet away and did a flashy dirthole, feathers, all the goo and etc. first day yippee, big tom by front foot in the trap. took a quick look at the snare while choking him and snare gone! my first thought is another dead right in front of me but hanging hi in the cedar. can`t see it anywhere. nevermind, get it later. take the cat out and remake and go to the snare tie down on the tree trunk. follow that 10 foot 1/16th sanre right to my cats hips, same cat laying next to the remake. go figure. I think he got snared first, never knew he was caught even and went to work my dirthole. kind of like always eating your desert first, you know, just in case the untimely time comes 20 minutes earlier than you thought.
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Post by romans117 on Jul 13, 2007 16:55:58 GMT -6
I had a weird thing happen to me last feb. I set a snare in a tight trail thru a cedar thicket,tracks in the snow. went 6-8 feet away and did a flashy dirthole, feathers, all the goo and etc. first day yippee, big tom by front foot in the trap. took a quick look at the snare while choking him and snare gone! my first thought is another dead right in front of me but hanging hi in the cedar. can`t see it anywhere. nevermind, get it later. take the cat out and remake and go to the snare tie down on the tree trunk. follow that 10 foot 1/16th sanre right to my cats hips, same cat laying next to the remake. go figure. I think he got snared first, never knew he was caught even and went to work my dirthole. kind of like always eating your desert first, you know, just in case the untimely time comes 20 minutes earlier than you thought. What is your experience with the amount of taint of the meat in your bait ? |
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Post by bobwendt on Jul 13, 2007 17:40:04 GMT -6
none, I let rk do that for me. no complaints. never made bait in my life. it`s chaeper to buy it premade than take the time and etc myself. I`ve bought it from about 4 different sources in my life and one was rot gut chit, but I think that as because the guy used heavy grey fish juice instead of fish oil, either that or he crapped in a bucket for a week, let it set in the sun capped for a month and then sent me that . turned the whole thing sewer so I never bought from him again. anything.
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Post by briankroberts on Jul 13, 2007 18:05:02 GMT -6
As far as the taint goes, I don't like to let the meat break down to far.
If you do the bait isn't the nice thick texture I like, plus the solution quiets a taint down some anyway.
I'm sure most critters can smell it anytime of the year if the wind is right and the bait is at the right location.
As far as types of meat, Cat is good, horse is right there with it.
Groundhog is also a good base, Beaver or rat I really don't care for cause they get way to soupy in a short amount of time.
One meat I get some tests on that worked well was mink meat.
I've been planning on getting some Mink carcass's and making some in larger amounts and sending it out for some testing but just haven't got around to it, but my results on small batches were great.
The cheese base that I make has always been a top producer, but the base is hard to handle and takes proper know how to age it right or the end product will cause way to much rolling at the set.....B....
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Post by bobwendt on Jul 13, 2007 18:26:50 GMT -6
I`ve used brians and rks, both similar and top notch stuff. you done working and ready to start trapping more again brian?
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Post by briankroberts on Jul 13, 2007 19:07:03 GMT -6
Bob just started phase 2 on the local wind farm, spose to be done next June, all the hours you can handle and I take all they'll give me, right now there saying that were shutting down from Dec.-Feb. which would be perfect, but thats what they said last year so we'll see.
Like the old saying goes make Hay while the sun shines, or in this case when its raining or snowing or dark out etc. ;D ;D .....B.....
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Post by bulletbox on Jul 13, 2007 19:16:42 GMT -6
The problem with bait of any kind is it draws non -target animals, as well as target animals...
If I use bait, I catch skunks... and I would rather run my weiner through a meat grinder than catch a skunk...
I HATE SKUNKS...
So, I try to avoid baits, but I have found a few lures I like... but most of the time, I stick with good cat pee and turds... there are very few cats that will pass that up....
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Post by bobwendt on Jul 13, 2007 19:34:14 GMT -6
bullet, there have been years my skunk catch equaled in the many thousands of dollars. I love the things. one man`s trash another man`s treasure. and they put up so pretty. hardly anything prettier than a well handled big double stripe skink clean enough to eat off of. lot of days I don`t catch a cat, but with 80-100 sets out it`s hard to not do at least a hundred dollars a day on skunks. throw in the few 4-5 cat days and 10 coon or coyote days and it`s just frosting on the cake. but it`s nice to have frosting every day even if no cake.
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Post by bulletbox on Jul 14, 2007 11:52:52 GMT -6
Bob,
When it gets bad enough I have to skin skunks... I will move to Mexico and become an illegal alien down there.... or as we say in TEXAS, I will become a Northern wetback.
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Post by RdFx on Jul 14, 2007 12:12:29 GMT -6
BB, from what i hear on news you should be wet all over now or isnt the rain in Texas in your part of Robert Lee? Im putting some new nbr 2 music wire springs in some northwoods offset # 2s i got way back when you and i were ebaying yote and cat traps for our own use. These came from a fella in CA.
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Post by bulletbox on Jul 14, 2007 13:45:14 GMT -6
Nope Lee,
We haven't gotten a big rain yet in July.... they have been all around us... My brother lives 60 miles north of me and he got 4.5" yesterday...
None here to speak of, but we are in better shape than we have been in a long time...
Grass in places I have never had grass.....
But I could use one of those big rains to put water in the creeks and clean them out some....
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Post by romans117 on Jul 14, 2007 14:23:39 GMT -6
and I would rather run my weiner through a meat grinder than catch a skunk... Good God man they ain't that bad. |
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Post by rk660 on Jul 14, 2007 22:17:14 GMT -6
bullet box, dont you at least save the juice off your skunks? I cringe to think how much easy money i let slip away over the years. In fact now always have "skunk kit" in truck, to suck juice off road kills. I pulled 9 ounces off a spring road trip during mating season and dead skunks galore on road. thats a 100 worth or free money for a handfull of stops.
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Post by Stanley on Jul 15, 2007 4:25:15 GMT -6
I love skunks also. If I catch a skunk it's a plus. And after watching Bob's video, I want more. Now possums and kitty cats, that pisses me off.
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Post by Bob Jameson on Jul 15, 2007 6:52:27 GMT -6
Skunks bring in good revenue for me each year as well. Bobw. has learned to maximize his harvest animals and parts with the best of them. I private market most of my animals these days in ways others may or may not capitalize upon.
They are quite easy to catch and work up plus I can use just about all of the byproducts of the animal for formulation work. The hide value is just a bonus. I'd just as soon catch 10 skunks a day then 10 coon as a matter of choice. Nothing wrong with a nice put up prime coon but I get a greater return on skunks over all, in comparing the quality of coon that I typically catch.
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Post by bulletbox on Jul 15, 2007 7:32:53 GMT -6
bullet box, dont you at least save the juice off your skunks? I cringe to think how much easy money i let slip away over the years. In fact now always have "skunk kit" in truck, to suck juice off road kills. I pulled 9 ounces off a spring road trip during mating season and dead skunks galore on road. thats a 100 worth or free money for a handfull of stops. Nope, I caught over 100 a year so ago before Christmas... I chunked them everyone..... But I usually don't mess with coons either..... |
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Post by buckfreak on Jul 15, 2007 9:04:25 GMT -6
Just think of the looks Rich got hovering over a splattered skunk with a syringe and a funny looking grin.  |
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Post by bobwendt on Jul 15, 2007 9:07:27 GMT -6
ya, his face is probably all smiley and a bulgy pocket.
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