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Post by bobwendt on Jun 28, 2007 7:53:45 GMT -6
everything I posted is true. never a flat. you made up the 25 millionm miles part. probably 100 miles a day for several months each year however . as I said and deleted earlier, but leaving this time, hope we meet face to face some day. we`ll see if your mouth runs then.
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Post by z on Jun 28, 2007 8:41:09 GMT -6
Nope Sure didn't Robert..... Just calling Bob on erroneous information as he likes to do with everyone else. Differant when the shoes on the other foot heh? BTW, It was Bob who started the personal attacks so we'll just see who gets deleted here........
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Post by ohiyotee on Jun 28, 2007 8:41:58 GMT -6
Hey z tell us how you really feel , you can't keep all that bottled up or it will get to you. come on let it all out.
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Post by romans117 on Jun 28, 2007 8:58:19 GMT -6
Bob's confidence offends some people. The way he writes turns some people off. You would one of those some people. You don't speak for me when you challenge his experiences.
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Post by ohiyotee on Jun 28, 2007 9:06:13 GMT -6
Well said Romans117, and by the way what does romans117 say i was going to look that up several times and have yet to do it. Seems that it should be familiar to me but can't recall.
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Post by bobwendt on Jun 28, 2007 10:02:38 GMT -6
I deleted the gonna whup you posts as I`m sure the guy has seen them , and it`s beneath me to subject the rest of you that kind of b.s. z, I`ll see you one day.
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Post by romans117 on Jun 28, 2007 10:28:57 GMT -6
by the way what does romans117 say i To understand the full context I start at Romans 1:16. The first part of 1:17 relates to 1:16, the second part of 1:17 is the message I am inspired by " The just shall live by faith". Thanks for asking tee. I will pm the entire 1:16 -1:17.
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Post by markymark on Jun 28, 2007 11:43:43 GMT -6
I often use the 4x4 when pulling my trailer full of wood in the woods. Where I am at it's all rock and 2wd just won't pull a load. Tires come into play big time. Those stockers don't cut it either.
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Post by sawdust on Jun 28, 2007 12:44:11 GMT -6
Z,
i'm curious where your rough terrain is.
i currently own my first ATV - a 250cc Kawasaki, 2WD.
i don't have rocks where i live but can't imagine that the 2WD wouldn't traverse over rocks or up rocky slopes.
wet snow is the only handicap i've experienced thus far, in the 3 years i have owned the machine. as far as mud goes, the 2WD does just fine.
i don't ride the machine recreationally, just trap off of it.
jeff - thanks for the photos of the saddlebags.
ts
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Post by coyotewhisperer on Jun 28, 2007 13:12:26 GMT -6
In a perfect world I would have bought the rancher 4x4. But its not a perfect world for me anyway. Brian/Bob/Bill1306 who have all trapped with me or road on my trapline or trap near me told me I'd be alright without the 4x4 IN MY AREA. And wether they would have said that or not I got what i could currently afford. Another tip Brian gave me was to have a dozen or so bungy cords with the hooks on each end on the four wheeler so if you have a day where you really bang the furbearers you can start strapping them on any which way to get them back to the truck or your house. I've rode the bigger cc polaris's the feedlot has for years 4x4 will get you out of some messes but if your screwed then your really screwed as they are too big and heavy to move on your own.
Jeff
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Post by coyotewhisperer on Jun 28, 2007 13:15:57 GMT -6
Forgot to add resale value on a four wheeler in SW KS is zilch wether its 4x4 or not so thats not a factor for my area. And I could have gotten a used one much cheaper but someone like Z would have probably owned it and raced it and crashed and tore the sh!t out of it then where would i be at when it fell apart.
Jeff
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Post by redcoyote on Jun 28, 2007 16:22:04 GMT -6
I like my artic cat, it gets me anywhere i want to go. I'm glad its 4x4 when i need it but will admit that it is rarely needed around here. first couple years, never used 4 wheel but last year with all the rain and mud had it almost buried a few times but the 4 wheel got me out. it is too big to get unstuck by hand alone. whats great about this cat is all the attachments that go with it to give you extra room. there are baskets for the sides,back ,and front. there are bucket racks and gun racks. two very large storage compartments in front of the wheels and a small one near the handlebars. then there is the dump bed, great for hauling cages and dead critters and pulling the line and throwing muddy traps into. just row into car wash and spray them off and go again. added the windshield also last season and that was a big plus! ps. careful Bob, Z is a "gnarly trapper"
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Post by sixbits on Jun 28, 2007 17:27:36 GMT -6
hmmm{ Iam no expert} but I have owened 3 hondas best of all!!! but I have a Cat with 4900 miles, oil change every 6 mo 1 set of tires used hard! I like 4 x4 best just that is what I think I need. seems every one needs are different heck my advice is buy what you think you need .What is all the PIZZZZEN about!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by trappnman on Jun 29, 2007 6:38:06 GMT -6
back to being a good thread.....
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Post by bill1306 (Phil) on Jun 29, 2007 9:22:16 GMT -6
I agree trappnman, I personally use a Polaris 500 HO. I don't like shifting, so I use an automatic and I like it. The ONLY person I have to make happy is ME. The Polaris rides really nice and I can haul a lot of traps or dead chit on it. In NM I ran a 43 mile line each day with it in cold weather and I didn't have any problems with it. I installed heated handle grips and also have a windshield on it. It cold weather they both really help and I would recommend both to anyone. I use a large tool bag (19 inch or more) from Harbor Freight to strap on the front of the machine to carry things in. I also use sever different sizes of the aluminum hooks to carry things on. I use the eight inch hooks for things like split rings or snares, the small hooks I use to keep all my disposable stakes on. The hooks look like a big D and you can clip several split rings, snares or disposable stakes on each one and it keeps everything in it's own place and your not wasting time looking in the bottom of a bucket or bag for a split ring or something you need. If you are curious at to what I mean by hook the parts numbers for the two sizes I use the most from Harbor Freight are 92077 and 95327 (http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?function=Search ) This system works well for me. I just hook the hooks on (the back side) of the front rack, in front of my legs and keep everything handy. Also it lets me know at a glance that I have enough split rings or whatever on the bike without digging in a bag. It really sucks to be putting in a set and find that you don’t have what you need, because you didn’t restock the bike. On the back of the four wheeler I use the receiver hitch and I have a attachment that I made with a basket on the top of it to help carry stuff in. With the back basket attached to the main frame on the bike I don't have all of the weight holding down the back of the machine making the head lights shine upward. The rack on the back also helps if you have something that is bloody or maybe that little stinker that you catch behind you and off of the machine. I also use my machine for guiding elk hunters in NM, checking fences, spraying fields, normal farm work and moving snow. The last two years I HAVEN'T shifted it into four wheel drive to move snow. My driveway is 1/4 mile long, two passes up and down and the snow is flying and then it is done. Then it just takes some time to clean the area where I park my pickups. The largest snow I moved this year was a 11 inch snow. If I get it moved before it gets crusted or starts melting it moves easily, at least it does for me around here. Before I purchased the Polaris, I had a 4x4 Kaw. I would never go back. Around here I can get better service for the Polaris than most other machines. If we only had Honda dealers here, I would probably be driving a Honda. I am anal about keeping the oil changed and air filter clean and just general upkeep. If you take care of it, it will take care of you. There are some really good ideas on this post. Not everything works for everybody, but if a person can just pick up a tip that will help him make life simpler, we have all won. I believe that the more organized I am, the more traps I can set and the more pajamas I can remove from our little furry friends. Phil
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Post by SteveCraig on Jun 30, 2007 8:42:00 GMT -6
Amen Phil, I like my Polaris and as you say, my dealer is only 1 mile from my house. I like Hondas too. I have had 4 Honda 3 wheelers over the years. Just bought one the other day off a guy. 1985 250 ES Still in the crate it came from the factory in. Been sitting in this guys garage since 1985 and he just never got around to using it. He had 2 others there too, plus several rare Harleys as well. We put it together and it started on the first pull.(the battery was dead) He was moving and couldnt take them all with him so I bought it from him. I like the 3 Wheeler as I can pick it up and put it in the back of the truck without a loading rack etc. It is great for checking lines or short runs etc. I still use the Ranger OHV for setting as it will haul more cages and stuff. I am spoiled however with the Ranger as it will go anywhere an ATV will and far more comfortable and will haul more stuff than a guy can use. I have mine set up street legal and can drive it anywhere except an Interstate. Have to have it that way out here now as that is another "rule" the USFS wants to use to control our lives! VERY warm in the winter too, as all I have to do is hang the doors on it and the heat from the engine warms the cab. I also had an Artic Cat ,and I liked it too. Sold it to a Lion Hunter Friend several years ago and he abused it bad and it is still going strong. Kinda like a Ford and Chevy thing here I guess.
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Post by z on Jun 30, 2007 9:31:53 GMT -6
Seems that most that claim to plow snow with their 2wd's are WEST of the Big River, Try an 11" mositure laden snow..... "Theres all kinds of rain".....Forest Gump! "Theres all kinds of snow"....Z! Just like opinions are like azzholes........
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Post by markymark on Jun 30, 2007 16:40:19 GMT -6
Your right about that wet snow. A couple of inches of wet snow ontop of rock your walking. My daddy always told me if your going to buy a Cadilac spring for the air conditioning. Who wants to deal with being stuck since it always happen in the most inopertune time. With that new quad I have 4wd is just a click away. I like the manual trans, it might just be in my head also. While shopping for a BMW a few months ago I had a hard time finding a stick shift. Most want 2wd auto trans. Took a little time finding a A-WD stick for some reason. Then again I don't trap out of a car either.
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Post by coalminer on Jun 30, 2007 19:34:43 GMT -6
Coyote Whisper, I cut 5/8" plywood to the form of my racks with about a 1" overhang and mounted it to the racks with small u bolts. When I go trapping I mount a couple of 5 gallon buckets to another board and bolt it to the plywood bolted to the racks to carry my trapping gear, if i have to take it off I just unbolt the whole thing and have my racks back. I like the plywood covers as we have to haul hay and such on them. On the fron get some of those crates that milk comes in and bungy them down. Just my .02.
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Post by z on Jul 1, 2007 7:04:40 GMT -6
Thats what 35 years of off road experience gets you...... I don't need some flatlander telling me what machine does it ALL. Everyone I know that invested in a cheaper 2wd machine upgraded and LOST money when they should have bought a 4wd to begin with! EVERYONE! The automatics are fine machines, Just don't swamp them underwater for any length of time. If you do the machine will exhibit characteristics of a shot clutch. Shut the machine off, Stand it up on its rear rack and let the CVT case drain out. Start the machine and let the heat slowly dry the CVT. Your good to go...... Another nice feature is 4WD "LOCK"..... Just don't plan on any good steering, They hop sideways under load and will get you out. Otherwise, I don't use that often. No need..... But as someone once said "Better to have and not need, Then to need and NOT have"! Relocate the winches toggle switch to a point where if the machine is rolled the switch is not smashed. Many dealers install them on top of the handlebars. I guess i'm the only one that rolls them occasionally? Consider me your crash dummy..... !
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