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Post by robertw on Jun 26, 2007 19:39:19 GMT -6
Brian, Can you give us some more information about the saddlebags mentioned earlier?
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Post by coyotewhisperer on Jun 26, 2007 19:44:19 GMT -6
I'll take a picture of mine in a few minutes robert. got it for 17$ at wallmart . Has a hole where you take off the gas cap then put the saddlebags on over the gas tank then put the gas cap back on and they are secure. Lots of extra storage for lures pints of bait etc.
Jeff
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Post by coyotewhisperer on Jun 26, 2007 20:52:29 GMT -6
Left view of saddle bags two pocket that will hold a pint of pee each plus bag space Right hand view more bag space this is a big compartment that folds out. top view with three small pouches. You can see there is a hole in the saddlebags to fit over the hole for your gas tank. Put the gas cap on and your secure. Jeff
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Post by robertw on Jun 26, 2007 20:58:37 GMT -6
Jeff, Thank you for the pictures!
I spend a couple of weeks trapping each winter on an ATV. Securing lure bottles and urine on a four wheeler is always a hassle.
Wonder how long those zippers will last with the mud and dirt?
Again, thanks for the pictures.
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Post by coyotewhisperer on Jun 26, 2007 21:03:09 GMT -6
I would have gotten them on earlier but right after i posted i was going to take pics for you the neighbor brought over a 55 inch rattlesnake and wanted me to skin it for him LOL
Jeff
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Post by z on Jun 27, 2007 1:23:22 GMT -6
You must run some slamming weight on your racks, 2lbs. of pressure still applies there huh? Must handle like a brick also... Any slow crawling with uphill climbs around the mtns here would put your little 2wd superscooter in your lap right quick along with slashed sidewalls from the cobble rock..... But you knew that also huh? You don't trap in a 2wd truck do you? You don't hillclimb in one either right? Thats what I thought.... Most trappers I know overload their racks, Making your 2lb. theory hardly sound. Tell me i'm wrong again Bob.....
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Post by bobwendt on Jun 27, 2007 2:57:50 GMT -6
I commonly carry several live coyotes in a double cage on the front racks . no problems. never had a slashed tire. I use mine to work , not play racing around for giggles. no mountain climbing over sharp rocks. it`s a valued piece of machinery, like my truck or my front end loader or my tractor. they all make me more money than they cost and and save me immense labor. I`ve seen your snowmobile posts. it`s easy to see you are into racing and power and loud noises and likely no sense at all about using a atv as a workhorse trapping in wet conditions and heavy deep bottomless mud. in fact I hear from a few other guys that you trap in the fair weather the first few days of season only, first drop of rain and you are done for the year. so lets get real, you don`t even use an atv to trap do you? , or if so, only for very limited use. so chit can the attitude. it`s lame. I`ve no problem with you. if you have a problem with me, pm me and maybe I can correct anything I`ve done to wrong you. but danged if I can think of anything I`ve ever done to you that would put you on a mission . never met you even. and my advice here was not theory, it`s what works and has proven successful over 25 years of atv use on hard traplines under every adverse condition possible. just trying to be helpful. I think I live in the land of mud, at least october thru april.
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Post by musher on Jun 27, 2007 4:45:35 GMT -6
I keep my tires at 2-4 pounds also. That includes when I have my little skidder on and I'm hauling logs.
I've never had a flat. I have worn out tires.
If you don't go fast, you can pretty well drive with no air in the tires.
A 2wd, with weight in the back, can push quite a bit of snow. Before 4wd bikes everyone, including myself did it. I had a huge "v" shaped rack that I dragged behind the bike. If the rack wanted to float on the snow we'd have a couple oi people sit on it. I kept 500 feet of driveway open with it. Once the snowbanks were too high you'd have to shovel out the sides so the plow could move the snow off the road.
During that time period I also hauled my wood with my 2wd in winter. The trick was to stay in your trail. If you deviated you were in for some lifting.
The only comparison I can make between 2wd bikes and 4wd bikes is trucks. A 2wd truck, with good tires and a locked differential (positrack) can do pretty good. BUT a 4wd with the same tires will do alot better.
Don't forget about the chains. Weight in the back/front with chains is going to impress you. It might be a little rough on the fenders if they aren't tight enough. You deflate the tires to install them and then pump 'em back up. You put way more than 2 pounds!
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Post by Stef on Jun 27, 2007 10:14:44 GMT -6
I've a 2003 Artic Cat 4x4 400cc automatic bought summer of 2002 and all i did to it was to replace the spark plug 2 times + oil change once a year "synthetic". Well pleased with my ATV.
I will never buy a truck or an ATV 2WD. 4WD is the way to go.
I know... some areas don't have snow and mountains but 4wd is needed when you want to go where you want to and when needed.... Just have to press on the 4wd button and you don't stop!
My friend has a Polaris 6 wheels and he told me that he will never buy a 4 wheels 4wd ATV again. He told me that his beast will go anywhere where a 4wd ATV won't pass and its very strong. he told me also that if Artic Cat could make one like the Polaris... he would buy one because Artic cat are builded lot more stronger then the Polaris.
Stef
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Post by musher on Jun 27, 2007 12:32:21 GMT -6
A buddy of mine has a 6 wheeler also. It can climb REALLY well. It also rips up the snow. He works with it in his sugar bush.
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Post by Stef on Jun 27, 2007 14:13:02 GMT -6
+ a nice "dump" box in the back. You can put easily 2 black bears on it..LoL
Stef
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Post by Stanley on Jun 27, 2007 15:01:03 GMT -6
This is what I use, bought off e-bay for 1/2 price. The reason I went with the ,"ARGO", is my boys. A quad would of only let me take one along, so matter what someone would be sad. It has a top speed of 20 mpg, and that's fine with me. My speed years are behind me. The dislikes are; Won't go into the box of the truck, have to haul with trailer. 2nd , getting the leg up and over, to get in.3rd, pain to change oil. Other wise I love it. It treads lightly across feilds. And everyone can ride along. You can put up to a 9.9 motor on the back for water. I need to build, a flat rack for it.
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Post by bobwendt on Jun 27, 2007 15:39:49 GMT -6
that looks plumb fun.
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Post by coonhangman1 on Jun 27, 2007 22:12:01 GMT -6
Anyway to supe that thing up to make it go faster? Looks like a blast!
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Jun 27, 2007 22:35:24 GMT -6
You can put an outboard motor on it and run it like a boat?
Joel
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Post by z on Jun 28, 2007 1:07:58 GMT -6
Your giving false information..... Your experiences do NOT apply everywhere, Much as you would think they do. I have ridden them all quite extensively Bob, That alone should make you think a bit but you keep pressing the issue. My advice, Unlike Bobs is extensive use of these machines under both play and working conditions. I've skidded timber through the snow on several differant models, have you done that also Bob? What is your experience in off camber terrain? Tell me old wise man..... Tell me what you know? My advice would be something along the lines of a Rancher or Yamaha Kodiak. Anything in the 350-450cc range. I have hauled cut bluestone on these things in terrain Bob would walk away from......FACT! Any more these days all the machines are basically sound. Find a reputable dealer with a good tech that knows how to set em' up not just move them out the door and you have half the battle won. Don't undergun yourself, But no need for the Big bores either, They have their limitations once again in tight quarters. Sounds great on paper, Till you've been there. For slow plunking in tight terrain with a load on the racks you NEED the ability of 4 wheel drive, Plus the added torque these motors provide under low rpm. Something the recon/Timberpuss dudes don't understand. Sorta like the teenager on an F-5 Firecat, Thinks he's got it all figured out. Good night Bob!
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Post by Stanley on Jun 28, 2007 4:26:18 GMT -6
It has a 18 hp Vanguard in it. I think you can get a 20 hp. It's more than fast enough going across any field. Joel, it has a motor mount on the rear, can put up to a 9.9hp on it. Which if your going across a fair size river, or marsh bog you don't need. Oars are a big help in the marshes, I've been in. Mine is the "Big Foot" model, and has over sized tires. A dealer told me if I put tracks on it, there is no amount of snow that it won't go though. But tracks and 6 tires, because I need smaller tires for the tracks, run @ 2400$ new. Looking for a set of used, which i will find some day.
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Post by bobwendt on Jun 28, 2007 4:41:59 GMT -6
z, don`t refer to me as your uncle, we are not relation. and yes, we log with them. I manage a classified forest for timber production and I am the owner /operator. you havn`t a clue how many I`ve owned, or my work experience with them trapping, fareming and abourt every other use onr could have besides using them as a toy . and you`re being a real dick. cut it out. go argue with someone else. I`ve no need to argue with you and getting tired of responding to your insults. I`m trying to add some knowledge to this thread like most other other posters, no need to hi jack it over some personal agenda you are running. ps, is your real name dweazel? bwahahaha, a little levity.....
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Post by markymark on Jun 28, 2007 5:15:38 GMT -6
If you want to find a quad at a resonable price put the word out. There's tons of them slighty used that people can't make the payments on. Generally they get the full monty also since the dealer will loan them the farm. If you find one it's a matter of writting a check to there lender or calling the lender to assume the payments.
As Z mentioned around here 2 WD is a waste, to many hills with tons of rocks. I've pinched a few tires here and there. I have 2 quads a Honda foreman and a Yamaha Grizzly. Both have pros and cons. The Grizzly haveing all the bells on it is nice with the independent suspension but it's big. Turns wide and the trailer hitch is a little far in under the read. I'm not to fond of the automatic either. The honda has less power but it has a 5 speed trans with fulltime 4x4 I like the fact you can shift it.
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Post by CoonDuke on Jun 28, 2007 5:48:02 GMT -6
I like the fact you can shift it.
I agree 100%.
For anywhere I trap on bare ground, 2WD would be fine. I have driven 2WD atvs since 1987 and have yet to find a need for a 4X4...except for in snow.
But, if I was buying an atv for trapping, it would definitely be 4X4 for the snow situations. Probably a Honda Rancher 4X4 with manual shift.
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