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Post by steeliekingfisher on Jul 3, 2007 21:45:32 GMT -6
anyone ever try using those little callers? Do they work? Where or who makes them?
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Post by bobwendt on Jul 4, 2007 5:44:16 GMT -6
I tried several types, the bird one out of pa and the ones out of utah, extensively, like 30 units for a month in known cat areas, on tracks. in trees, at the set, away from the set . every way imaginable, with snares and traps both. I never caught a cat at any of them and in fact had my worst cat year ever, 26 cats. this year I threw them all away and went back to my old regular waysand the cat catch went back to normal leverls again. I tried every level of sound too. believe me, I gave them a good fair long ( too long) test. I hear others say the exact opposite, but you will never get me near those ^*(%^$#^$ things again. cost me many many thousands of dollars looking for the secret bullet when I had a proven cannon at my disposal all the time.
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Post by tomcat3006 on Jul 4, 2007 8:51:37 GMT -6
I tried some of them last year at some live trap sets and had no luck with bobcats. Other people around here say they work for them but not for me.
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Post by steeliekingfisher on Jul 4, 2007 13:13:05 GMT -6
thanks for the help.
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Jul 4, 2007 13:26:08 GMT -6
Two years ago I set 20 of them out and caught one or more cats at every set.
I absolutely love them.
I use walkthrough type applications.
I expect using them at dirtholes and flat sets would be less effective.
I've had sandy areas tracked up with coyotes for 30 yards around where I've had these out.
Joel
Joel
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Post by bobwendt on Jul 4, 2007 13:34:56 GMT -6
lol, but you have a captive audience there in nevada. I remember you posting your great success with them, that`s why I was so surprised they seemed to scare cats off if anything , for me at least. we tried setting the things up hi in cedar thickets and snaring trails far and close even, nada. making blind trail sets like you, nada again. dirtholing on the approaches, nada again. do you think you would have caught all those cats anyway? my catch near doubled the year after , back to previous levels NOT USING THEM
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Jul 4, 2007 14:03:13 GMT -6
I expect that I'd have caught a lot of those cats anyway but who knows?
I do know I caught them where the units were used.
I've had varying results since but I'm still excited when I check a set where I have one working.
The Govt. guys out here slaughter the coyotes with their call boxes which are the same thing.
You got some you want to discount?
Joel
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Post by bobwendt on Jul 4, 2007 14:22:52 GMT -6
no, they are gone already. what do you mean call boxes? the gmen i know in wyoming have no such device that I am aware of. I developed and marketred a similar noise maker back in the boom years for canines but it never caught on then and at the time I had no access to cats. some sold, but all fur went south then so I dropped it. I always considerd them more for beginners ,and that an experienced trapper could do more with good location- or a big fat old dead pig ,failing to have the first. sounds like describing rk`s ex.
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Post by bulletbox on Jul 4, 2007 16:11:35 GMT -6
I have tried them, they don't work well in country that has been called at all, for cats... I think it goes back to once a cat is called in and missed you have a highly educated critter on your hands...
I have called cats in, and not shot at them, but set traps and have caught cats, some of these had to have been called in and shot at, but they did step in a trap without a squeaker over or around them...
My gray fox came to them like mad men. but they wouldn't work the set unless the caller was 20 or so yards away from the set... I guess they get spooky with the sound going like on a squeaker...
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Jul 4, 2007 17:11:48 GMT -6
I think they work better away from the actual trap. I like the ones that only go off every minute to two minutes also. Make them hunt for it.
I feel that they pull cats down from the inaccesible country and help in places that don't have a well defined place to set like a big dense Juniper forest where the cat might wander around willy nilly.
They are kind of a pain to pack around and change batteries and I have more than one that is still out there because I forgot to pull it. lol!!
Joel
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Post by bobwendt on Jul 4, 2007 17:23:51 GMT -6
we tried several noise levels and sequences and timings. it wasn`t a few for a few nigtsand give up. I did everything a man could think of to try to get the things to work. the idea seems sound ( no pun intended) on paper, but it was a dismal failure in the field. I`ve given up on them. that vast cedar thicket( juniper forest), there is a deer trail coming or going somewhere in there that the cat will travel. usually one big one right down the middle. or some very visible location in the open somewhere where a flag will shine.
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Jul 4, 2007 17:26:56 GMT -6
Bob were you using those ones with the dials that you make your own sounds and sequences?
I don't like those. The ones that I like are just a rabbit call that goes off every 1-2 minutes.
Joel
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Post by bobwendt on Jul 4, 2007 18:16:04 GMT -6
I used 2 kinds, a "dp" or something like that , made in pa, and also those ones that are made by the "grit guy" or whatever he goes by on dobbins. is there a 3rd brand out there now?
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Post by mat on Jul 4, 2007 18:19:19 GMT -6
i ust the "trap bait" and this squeeker has worked great for me. i use it at alot of my "cubby" type sets after deep snowfall www.edgebyexpedite.com
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Post by SteveCraig on Jul 4, 2007 19:43:04 GMT -6
I was with Bob and we were using my units. We used the old Squeakers and new ones with the adjustable sounds, and the Trap baits with bird sounds. I can not recall catching a cat near one.We had them out for almost 3 weeks too. I had snares in all trails leading to them and Bob had his traps from a few feet to a hundred yards away, and ........nothing. Sure had me puzzled. I can take these same units out here, place a unit DIRECTLY above a cage, and will have a cat there quick. I also use them UNDER the cage as well and they work great. I used one back in Indiana and could not keep the coons away from it. The bird sound one. FWIW, I prefer the bird sounds over the rabbit. But they didnt work well in Kansas.
P.S. We had one shelter belt set up not 20 yards from the road, and the dang cats would not leave the road to check them out.
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Post by bobwendt on Jul 4, 2007 19:57:03 GMT -6
that spot had fresh cat tracks of what appeared to be a ma and 2-3 kittensand the odd tom on it everey night. we had squeeker sets all up and down it and they refused to even come anywhere close. steve, I think those cowboys shot all those cats as last year nary a track or sign anywhere. that road thatwas all cat tracked up the year before was a smooth as a babies bottom last winter. nada, zip. anyway, that spot we KNEW cats were there when we used the squeekers.
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Post by sixbits on Jul 4, 2007 20:09:11 GMT -6
Want to keep cats away from your traps use them ,they work real good.LOL
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Post by JWarren on Jul 4, 2007 20:37:11 GMT -6
I have a handful of them. I have caught coyotes and coons on them but no cats. Then again I only used them in areas where I wanted to "draw" a cat, haha. I hooked them up to a 6v and pointed them straight out. I'm going to try hiding them better to mute the sound. When wide open like that they are a bit static sounding.
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Post by trapperbill on Jul 4, 2007 21:21:49 GMT -6
I only use the custom Fur Finders.I only like my own sound of a meadow lark bird on mine set up with my own delays.This bird is non threating and a staple in a lot of predators lives.So I think thats why they like em and not scared of em.I don't put em rite by my set but kinda behind about 30ft.I've caught both cats and greyfox using em in wooded country.I'll see how they work in KS this yr.I don't see why they won't work as I've called in cats predator calling to this sound and they come rite to my caller and sit down til I shoot em. LOL
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Jul 4, 2007 22:31:01 GMT -6
Bob and Steve you are using a completely different unit than I am.
I've never used the trap bait one.
I have used the adjustable one from gritguy (wasatch wild) and don't care for it.
The one I use is made by gritguy and it's called a furfindr. Has four different recorded sounds. All I use is the rabbit sound. Because it sounds just like a rabbit.
The one you were using sounds like a UFO. At least when I mess with it. I have 3 of them and don't set them out. I can understand your lack of success.
I suspect that some get a good sound out of it but I never could.
The others sound perfect and they work.
Joel
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