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Jul 23, 2007 20:06:05 GMT -6
Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Jul 23, 2007 20:06:05 GMT -6
The washing isn't what bugs me it's getting the dang things dry and I live in the driest climate in the country.
I lent a friend a bunch of basswood cat stretchers one year and he put wet cats on them and they came back twisted and warped.
A washed coyote looks good but washing a cat in water takes the "life" out of the fur.
Better to dry wash with borax.
Joel
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Jul 23, 2007 21:31:57 GMT -6
Post by trappnman on Jul 23, 2007 21:31:57 GMT -6
My country has high humidity, but by using a fan, a washed coyote is ready to go the next night. Wash it and hang it up- next day its dry enough to put on stretcher. Heck, in WY with thw wind, the first ones were dry enough before I had the others skun.
Never washed a cat.
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Jul 24, 2007 4:40:20 GMT -6
Post by bobwendt on Jul 24, 2007 4:40:20 GMT -6
in my younger years I washed cats and soon learned ,as my good friend sheldon smith says, " you can wash the goodness right out of a cat". it makes them flat and dull. I suppose if he rolled in red clay pudding all night maybe you should wash a cat, but never for blood or any other reason.
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Jul 24, 2007 5:38:52 GMT -6
Post by Drew on Jul 24, 2007 5:38:52 GMT -6
Stanley went through my notes from the past couple seasons. Blood in the catch area didn't seem to be a problem with coyotes. Red fox it varied, I had some sets that went empty with blood and others that didn't. Probably my locations of sets? Grey fox, only 1 was caught at a site with blood. Not sure it helps any...I'm just a part time hobby trapper that takes alot of notes. Why is it trappers will disagree about disagreeing?
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Jul 24, 2007 6:41:48 GMT -6
Post by uptrapper on Jul 24, 2007 6:41:48 GMT -6
I hate the blood at the set,in the truck or in the garage.I also cant stand wasting time washing them.I use drags so blood at the set is a non factor.Bloodless dispatch is just as fast as shooting in my opinion.
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Jul 24, 2007 7:13:26 GMT -6
Post by trappnman on Jul 24, 2007 7:13:26 GMT -6
I'd be amazed at seeing how you skin coyotes and leave no blood on the fur. When you turn it back over, no blood at all on fur? Because to me any blood on the fur needs to be washed off. When doing by hand, we just wash the affected areas.
I'm like Zags- I know ther is going to be coyotes to be skun and the pelt is going to get bloody. Why worry about it?
Shooting in the head, if handled correctly after the kill, leaves so little blood on the fur or in the truck, that once again, its not something I worry or thing about.
but neither way is "the" way- is just "our" way.
interesting thought- many coyotes trappers swear that they can never catch anything in remakes- could the dispatch method be a factor?
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Jul 24, 2007 8:27:49 GMT -6
Post by uptrapper on Jul 24, 2007 8:27:49 GMT -6
Of course I get some blood.Before I start I take 5 seconds to slip an old sock over the head helps contain it.I work as fast as I can around the head.I can not eliminate the blood but I can minimize it.If I do get a little blood on the fur a spray bottle with soap and water takes care of it quickly.And I do not have dried blood to contend with.My furs are not soak and wet.This is just the way I do it.Not saying it is the best way for every one.But it works for me.And I have tried both ways.This way just seems quicker start to finish.
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Jul 24, 2007 8:32:56 GMT -6
Post by trappnman on Jul 24, 2007 8:32:56 GMT -6
washing fur doesn' mean its soaking wet- just wash the spots if you want.
Its not like you are slitting its throat and have blood spraying everywhere.
Everyone always mentions time- is anyone really skinning 20-30 coyotes on a regular basis? I'm thinking that most are doing 3-7 a day on a daily basis if that.
now if you compare the time taken to dispatch that coyote bloodless compared to a .22-
do you lose anymore time in the long run by washing a few spots?
I'm thinking that since each takes a couple minutes, that the time factor is a "wash"
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Jul 24, 2007 10:11:15 GMT -6
Post by Jeffrey on Jul 24, 2007 10:11:15 GMT -6
I want to know how you wack a yote in the throat with any thing? They always seem to have there teeth in front of it. I know we'll be selling as many coyotes to the taxidermist as possible this year, $30 a head and no skinning, now that's a deal.
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Jul 24, 2007 10:42:39 GMT -6
Post by uptrapper on Jul 24, 2007 10:42:39 GMT -6
When I used to head shoot 22 short right above the eyes I seem to get alot of blood even if I let them drain for a few minutes with there head off the back of the tailgate.By the time I got them home the blood was dry in the fur,and i always got more blood on skinning.So by the time I was done washing I had a soak and wet hide.Maybe I was doing something wrong.But I always ended up with a big mess.I agree time at the kill site is a push.But time in the shed is much shorter.(atleast for me)Plus I think the pics are nicer without blood all over!!LOL
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Jul 24, 2007 11:24:42 GMT -6
Post by shagnasty on Jul 24, 2007 11:24:42 GMT -6
hard knock over the nose stuns them, roll them over then a hard knock across the throat.
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Jul 24, 2007 11:28:40 GMT -6
Post by ohiyotee on Jul 24, 2007 11:28:40 GMT -6
Heres one better , if you use latex gloves to skin , take a used one and put it over the head past the ears it works great with no soak trough. and with the stretchiness it really stays on. greg
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