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Post by BrandonH on Mar 14, 2004 13:11:09 GMT -6
I've been running MB crunchproof's, but thinking of changing to Sterlings as I've had some MB's clog up and become inoperable. Also, I think that a sterling off the d-ring may help the trap bed a little easier because the sterling can lay flat. Anybody had a "normal" box swivel been crunched, distorted, etc?? What about welding rivets?? Reusing rivets?? Let's hear it
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Post by briankroberts on Mar 14, 2004 14:31:08 GMT -6
I use the MB crunch proof swivels and I welded them shut this winter as I had a Coyote partily open one a while back, it may be overkill, but I like the idea of Coyote proof, I also have had some clog up , but I run 4 on my chain setup and I've never had them all out of commision. I have heard that the sterlings are top notch and pricey too.....B.....
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Post by Stef on Mar 14, 2004 14:45:58 GMT -6
I use all kind of swivel from cheap victor to box swivel to homemade pipe, Sterling etc...
Yes I do prefer swivel like the Sterling. They are low profile and coyote won't bust them.
Like them everywhere on the the chain, I mean, at trap, mid and end. But where they shine the most is at the trap and at the end!
I made mine with round rod 3/16th welded on a 5/16th nut and use a #6 rivet. I know, this is not a "Vintage" Sterling swivel because i don't use a nail hook and the shank of the rivet on a real Sterling is longer and really increase a clean swivelling when trapping in rough stuff.
But I'm happy with the results I get with my homemade model and won't stop making them for my own use!
Stef
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Post by briankroberts on Mar 14, 2004 15:36:55 GMT -6
Sounds like a good swivel Stef, how long does it take to make up a 100 of those???.....B.....
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Post by Stef on Mar 14, 2004 15:47:54 GMT -6
;D too slow for me but I have all the time I want I made a little die for turning the rod but i still need to cut them one by one The longest part is the the welding though. Stef
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Post by chub618 on Mar 14, 2004 16:47:46 GMT -6
i purchased about a dozen sterlings recently and found that i can make them. takes awhile to weld up but they look just like the sterlings, im using a arc welder with 7014 rod i might try and use some 6013 and see how that welds
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Post by vttrapper on Mar 15, 2004 8:40:39 GMT -6
All swivels foul or get biound up in the right circomestance, even sterlings. I no longer use box swivels, I have had too many coyotes crush them. 1 inch pipe with J hooks is with the J hooks welded shut are on my traps. No more crushing. Yes, they can bind up but with 3 on a trap, the swivel attached to the trap is working well, even at haybale sets.
frank
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Post by rk660 on Mar 15, 2004 9:59:09 GMT -6
Stef, i make my own sterlings too and use a factory j-hook, what i do different is use a large fence staple instead of 3/16 cold rolled, then you just cut off to lenght you like with bolt cutters and weld together. seems to save a little time over having to bend the 3/16. Most fence staples are 3/16 material also.
Thought about making a bunch of sterling type swivels welded together with a d-ring, think they would sell at conventions?
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Post by Stef on Mar 15, 2004 10:50:55 GMT -6
rk, I thought about it before but could not find those larger staples you're talking about.
Think I need to ask those farmers ;D
Stef
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Post by CoonDuke on Mar 15, 2004 12:43:55 GMT -6
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Post by BrandonH on Mar 15, 2004 15:22:42 GMT -6
stef or rich, any pics of these homemade stelings??
BTW CoonDuke, You can buy sterling nailhooks for about $2 a dozen, which is what you are looking for. Stef is right on the $ regarding the benefits of the longer shanked nailhook/rivet
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Post by Stef on Mar 15, 2004 15:29:25 GMT -6
Look close There's 3 swivels on that chain ;D Stef
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Post by chub618 on Mar 15, 2004 15:53:32 GMT -6
coonduke: sterling does make long shank j-hooks i ordered 3 doz. from m&m fur u can also get them form montgomery fur look under the strerling trap and u will find d-ring swivels, mid chain swivels and end chain swivels along with just plain old j-hooks! all made by sterling. note these j-hooks have a real long shank longer than anything i have ever purchased
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Post by Scrapper on Mar 16, 2004 4:03:09 GMT -6
Coonduke, Make your own J hooks. I have a small bender that I make them with. You use 20penny commons. You can make them long, short, what ever you want. It's fast and alot cheaper than buying them. You can also make s hooks and a real slick double stake attachment. This was Bob Custers creation, but I beleave it is in the Trapperman book by another author. I made my own bender, but Bob was selling them last year at the conventions. Scrapper
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Post by Zagman on Mar 16, 2004 5:50:59 GMT -6
Coonduke continues to give me fodder for my comedy routine....
The kid will tweak, build, change, weld, fine-tune, modify every piece of equipment he owns. He takes parts from NW's traps and adds them to pieces of Duke traps and presents the prototype to a big trap manufacturer.....
....but he cant bend a nail into a J-hook.
Classic.....
Zag
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Post by z on Mar 16, 2004 6:19:44 GMT -6
.........Zz
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Post by Steve Gappa on Mar 16, 2004 7:38:38 GMT -6
;D good one Zags
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Post by CoonDuke on Mar 16, 2004 7:53:22 GMT -6
OK, OK...now you guys have "shamed" me into making some out of nails.
What size nail is the diameter of a standard "J" hook?
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Post by trappnman on Mar 16, 2004 8:11:02 GMT -6
You will take a $10 trap, add $63.78 in modifications, 4.20 hours of labor, loss sleep because your mind is "a whirling"..................... and you want to save 7 CENTS a trap by making a j- hook....out of a cheap overseas piece of crap nail? Dukie, Dukie, Dukie.....take 2 Iron Cities and call Z in the morning....
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Post by CoonDuke on Mar 16, 2004 8:24:49 GMT -6
loss of sleep because your mind is "a whirling"........
I have awakened from a deep sleep to go out to my shop and mess with traps.
Is there help for me??? "Hi, I'm Todd and I'm a trapmodaholic."
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