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Post by ohiyotee on Feb 6, 2007 13:13:16 GMT -6
ttt for John
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Post by shagnasty on Feb 6, 2007 13:54:58 GMT -6
the free roaming dog population in this area is unbeilable to most. but, it only takes one wrong dog anywhere regardless the population. you guys are playing with fire setting that stuff around hounds for a stinking coon, especially using red meat. even if using a dog proof version,
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Post by MRussell on Feb 6, 2007 21:29:13 GMT -6
Both types of buckets will work. The square pretty much stabilize themselves. I have gotten enough refusals, that has softened my use of bucket sets.I have caught coons in buckets in my area. they do work for me but I use them only when I can't find a good trail or there are no natural features to really work with. Buckets are ok but a 220 has been more productive in trail sets in my area for me.
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Post by pastortrapper on Feb 7, 2007 20:51:56 GMT -6
I tried to start a new thread on coon sets but got no reply so I deleted it. So, I will ask here. Do any of you have pics of a bait stick set or a pvc pipe set? If so will you post pics.
Scott
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Post by daveplueger on Feb 7, 2007 21:51:33 GMT -6
The reason Dean Mitchel new about the incidental dog captures in buckets was because the dog owners found their dead dogs before the trapper and in a few of the cases the dog owners were powerful influences in the community. The FTA trys to stay on top of every situation (Dean Mitchel being an officer) One of the captures may end some of the trapping privledges in Neb. There have been more reports of dogs in buckets this past season than ever before. I for one will not place a conibear in a bucket. They are magnets for dogs and grinners and are mediocre at best for coon. I do however use a few 160's in boxes with a 6 in. overhang and the trap placed in 6 in. slots. Even then I am very particular with where I place them and the type of bait and lure used.
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Post by pastortrapper on Feb 8, 2007 5:54:17 GMT -6
Dave, we are pretty blessed around here. Its a very rural area and there are places all over where there is literally miles or acres and acres where there is nobody. Many places that are dog free. The county I live borders the Ohio River. Lots of creeks flowing into the river. Coon heaven.
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Post by bmead on Feb 8, 2007 7:11:33 GMT -6
I have cought all but 2 coon this year in white buckets with a can of sardeans in the back for bait. as far as i could tell i only had 1 refusal and that was because he could not move the coon that was all redy in the trap, so he kept moveing and got cought in a pvc set.
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Post by trappnman on Feb 8, 2007 8:07:04 GMT -6
Scott- I don't have any pictures of fishstick sets. Lots easier to take a camera on land than water LOL
But neither set is complex and words will do you just fine.
PVC Pipe:
2 main ways to use it as a bait holder. The way I use it the most, is to stick it into the bank so that its is slightly about the horizontal (keeps lures in). Location is important, I set near shelves, sandbars so that the pipe ideally is on a high bank sticking out 4-6 inches and is about the same over the water. I like the water to be 2-4 inches over the trap.
These distances are what I prefer, any combo works to a degree.
A tip on using pipes this way in freezing weather- drive them into the bank another 3-4 inches from how you want it. Then, work it back and forth good in this 3-4 inches, then pull it out to where you want it. That way, when pulling, you have an open space behind the pipe- a good smack with the flat of your hatchet, and you push it free into this space, and can then remove most pipes.
I position the trap so that the dog is facing the stream, and the end of the free jaw, is about an inch out from a line drawn from the end of the pipe straight down to the bottom of the creek.
If you stake solid, the pipe will be dislodged, and will sink in deep water. I either drag or use slides, so very seldom do I have a disturbed pipe.
PVC fish stick set: You can make tis set the traditional way or using a pvc pipe. Traditional, cut a stick that is long enough to be firmly planted i the bottom of the creek, and still have 4-8 inches sticking out of the water. To this stick, take some long grasses, and wind them around the last 3-4 inches of the stick, and tie/wire them so they form a ball around the end. You can then lure, and add a little more grass to cover bait if you use bait. I use lure, and don't bother with the second set of grass.
I find this set to work best on low banks with gradually deeper water. Place the stick in the water, 2 feet out or so (so a coon can't reach it from shore) with the top sticking out. Place a trap next to the stick, so that the trap is between the shore and the stick. Thats it.
Make the same set with a pvc pipe- in that case, I angle the tip of the pipe toward the bank at a 45 degree or so, and place the trap below the tip. On a pipe, shove some grass down it to hold the lure above the water.
Both simple sets that actually work rather well.
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Post by pastortrapper on Feb 8, 2007 17:39:33 GMT -6
Trappnman, thanks for the details on those sets. I set out this year to trap yote mostly. Caught more coon than yote. Couldn't trap some days due to rain. So, I am finding out all I can on coon traps so I can trap lots of coon and not be sitting still during rainy spells.
Scott
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