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Post by pastortrapper on Jan 17, 2007 17:24:15 GMT -6
Zagman, don't think a coon can read? Apparently you didn't see "Dr. Doolittle" with Eddie Murphy. Glad I have you guys to lean on for insight. Thats all real good stuff to take in. Gives me stuff to work on through the Summer as if I need more to do. Pastoring a church and working as a Hospice Chaplain keep me pretty busy.
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Post by Stanley on Jan 17, 2007 18:36:52 GMT -6
The hole in the pail cover is 5" in diameter. The trigger to the trap is place on the bottom. I put a ringed roofing nail through the top of the pail at the back. I put a ear of corn on this, mostly dipped in sweet jelly. I'll put a little lure at the front of the pail. I learned this set at a demo at a MTA Rendezvous. In theory, the critter enters the pail and is looking up at the ear of corn and not the trigger. The wooden coni pans I got from Gappa worked real well. I'll pick up a lot of possums first. When they are cleaned out I get coon. It's a quick and easy set. Some times I camo the pail with grass and leaves, sometimes not. I never wash the pail from year to year, dirty pail works best. I use a wire to attach the trap to the pail. But I will be changing this over to cable this year. The wire can be a pain once in a while. I've caught Fisher, ermine in this set also. I used muskrat and a chunk of beaver for this. A lot of the land I trap, the owners are members of Pheasants Forever and want all the vermin gone, so they work well to do this. The wooden coni pans I put on this year was a wise move .
Coon are very smart. Watch ,"Over The Hedge" and you will be amazed. lol
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Post by Steve Gappa on Jan 17, 2007 19:18:25 GMT -6
Gappa?
you can call me Joe...or you can call me Johnson... .or you can call me JJ ...or you can call me Johnny....but ya doesn't have to call me Gappa...
;D
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Post by eric on Jan 18, 2007 6:34:13 GMT -6
I run about 125 of the square buckets for coon with great results each year. I am in hound country so use 160's in 90% of the buckets to avoid incidental dog catches. The nice thing about the buckets is you can stack them easily with trap inside. I wire the traps to the buckets and wire the buckets to a tree or stake. I camo paint all buckets on the outside to reduce theft, inside paint is up to you, I do not see a difference in refusals based on camo vs. no camo.
good luck, Eric
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Post by HappyPlumber on Jan 18, 2007 14:21:47 GMT -6
When I trap coons before water sets open up here, I prefer to not use any boxes or buckets. I don't need them to catch coon and they are a hassle to carry in and out. I can save the time from carrying boxes and make more trail sets. HP
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Post by pastortrapper on Jan 18, 2007 18:26:49 GMT -6
Eric, do the 160s work better in the round buckets better that the 220s? Will the 220s even fit in a round bucket?
HP, not using buckets or boxes, what is your favorite coon set?
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Post by coalminer on Jan 18, 2007 19:23:44 GMT -6
stanley, you have a picture of that wooden pan? Is it something special?
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Post by Patrick on Jan 18, 2007 20:31:30 GMT -6
There is a article in one of the last few Fur-Fish-Game about the 220 box. It had a front on it, with a 5x5 hole cut out. Check it out.
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Post by NEPISIGUIT on Jan 18, 2007 22:17:30 GMT -6
Notice that no one mentions tying the bait into the bucket. Often used to end up with the bait firmly clamped in the jaws of the 220 and the coon gone. Sounds like the wooden pan has merits. Good post
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Post by HappyPlumber on Jan 18, 2007 22:26:12 GMT -6
My favorite dryland set is a trail set with a 160 set 4 1/2 " above the ground. My favorite wet set is a bait stick 2' fron shore with a 1 1/2 coil spring guarding the shore side of the stick. Ground up fish/ fish entrails in the bait stick.. Had a first year trapper ed student catch 70 coon this way. HP
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Post by Stanley on Jan 18, 2007 22:52:42 GMT -6
"Joe, Johnson, JJ, Johnny" or trappnman, Big kahuna, The Boss. Sells them on his CRU web site. I'm thinking there was a thread a while back that had some pic's of them. There're simple. If you can't find the thread. I'll take a pic and post in a couple of days.
Found the thread @ page 26.
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Post by Steve Gappa on Jan 19, 2007 8:59:13 GMT -6
;D
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Post by pastortrapper on Jan 20, 2007 14:28:50 GMT -6
HP, could you explain the bait stick 2' from shore and the trap set?
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Post by Steve Gappa on Jan 20, 2007 16:33:20 GMT -6
used to be called the "fishstick set". Many variations, but the basic is to take a stick, and wrap some long grasses around the end. Then add a fish chunk type bait and/or lure onto this grass. Add a few more long grasses over the bait.
Place this stick into water 2-10 inches deep. Preferably on a point, with the stick into the water 2 feet or so off shore, with the bait part above water. Place a trap between the shore and the stick.
A PVC pipe is the modern equivalent of this set.
Not a set I use much- but actually a very successful set.
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Post by pastortrapper on Jan 22, 2007 6:25:13 GMT -6
Okay, getting back to the bucket set. Does a 160 work better than a 220 or is it just preference? And who makes the 160?
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Post by ohiyotee on Jan 22, 2007 7:07:09 GMT -6
Any company that makes coni's makes a 160, I like the 160 does a great job on the coon. I must say how ever that i have never used a 220 on anything but beaver so i can't say on coon, although they would obviously do a great job.
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Post by bankrunner on Jan 22, 2007 10:57:35 GMT -6
Just be very, very careful where you set those buckets or boxes. I was at FTA's fun night friday and Dean Mitchell said there were dogs caught and killed in 5 different states this year alone. The downfall of a white bucket is every dog and his brother has ate or drank out of a white bucket. Even if your legal, all the people are going to hear about is how a dog was killed in a conibear. Trust me, I spent Fri, Sat, & Sun at Pheasant Fest where we had 30,000 people come by our FTA booth and discuss buckets and conibears. Not really any bad talk about trappers from bird hunters.
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Post by pastortrapper on Jan 23, 2007 5:27:58 GMT -6
bankrunner, how did Dean know there were dogs killed in 5 different states? I get a dog even in a foot trap, you think I'm gonna tell anybody? Let alone lying dead in a conibear.
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Post by pastortrapper on Jan 25, 2007 5:53:15 GMT -6
Okay, one more question. Do you, that have use bucket sets, find that a square bucket or a round bucket works better?
Scott
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Post by Coonhusker on Jan 25, 2007 17:11:58 GMT -6
bankrunner, how did Dean know there were dogs killed in 5 different states? I get a dog even in a foot trap, you think I'm gonna tell anybody? Let alone lying dead in a conibear. You wouldnt have to tell anyone if it were a hound wearing a tracking collar. I'm glad to hear all the words of caution in using conibear's.
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