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Post by pastortrapper on Jan 15, 2007 21:27:08 GMT -6
I have seen bucket sets in magazines. Does this setup work well using buckets or do most of you use boxes of some kind? If so, could you give me some insight on building a coon box that will accomidate a 220 conibear? Demensions, proper coni placement, baiting and such. I have a pretty good idea but thought I would get some insight before I built any.
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Post by possumpincher on Jan 15, 2007 23:13:38 GMT -6
I just use the white detergent buckets sold at trapper conventions and a good size chunk of beaver.
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Post by pastortrapper on Jan 16, 2007 6:24:34 GMT -6
possum, the coon have no reservation about going into a plastic bucket?
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Post by ColdSteel on Jan 16, 2007 6:44:08 GMT -6
Be very careful where you put a set like this for obvious reasons..I have used this set some and yes it catches coons but you will have some refusals just part of the game also I caught a lot of grinners and because of it being a risky set in my area I got away from it
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Post by tonymalone on Jan 16, 2007 7:59:18 GMT -6
in ar. we can only use 160 on dry ground , but i built 2 doz. boxs like on matt Jones video, and also made 6 gal. of his coon bait according to recipeit, caught a few coon, very few, record breaking #s of possums, possably the 160's are just to small, to be inviteing, lots of easier ways to catch coons, this is in no way downing matt Jones have all of his videos got lots of good info in them I would recomend them to anyone
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Post by jwr64 on Jan 16, 2007 8:34:18 GMT -6
Tony have you caught many coon at all? Crime bluff to marianna yesterday I seen 3 road kill coon and 1 beaver. The coon #'s are way down here.
I have a couple boxes I built bigger than usual and set the 160 in it so it's diamond shape when looking at it. (corner of trap is at 12 and 6 instead of 10 and 2) makes the hole look bigger. No idea if its any better, just toying with the idea.
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Post by tonymalone on Jan 16, 2007 8:43:01 GMT -6
jwr, haven't coon trapped this year should have, looks like they are up just alittle, that was last year i used the 160,s, ya should have stopped and chewed the fat on your way thru.
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Post by frenchman on Jan 16, 2007 8:56:19 GMT -6
for coon
square buckets, sweet baits (old cake works great, marshmallows another option) and Procoon.
Sweet baits decrease (but does not eliminate) the odds of catching feral animals (cats or dogs). Use them wisely and stay away from risky locations.
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Post by ohiyotee on Jan 16, 2007 10:09:03 GMT -6
To avoid dogs and cats in boxes first off use 160's .,next make your box so that the coni. is well inside about 7 or 8 inches, and 3rd always place the box in the water , 2 inches is all you need to avoid cats and most possums. If in a stream place it so that the opening is facing down current so it is less affected by the water. I use a fish smelling bait , like cut up fish impaled on a nail inside on the back. and a sweet smelling lure right on the front of the box and in side. I find the boxes very fast and efficient especially if you can get them out ahead of time and all you have to do is add the trap later. I have come to depend on the box type of set up because we have fast moving ,shallow hard bottom streams here and in most situations drowning is not an option. One draw back to the boxes that i have found how ever is the lack of mink catches in them. I even tried the wooden pan triggers on the conis. this year but to no avail. So if i have deep enough water i always put in a good pocket set or some blind sets for the mink and the occasional coon that avoids the box. greg
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Post by pastortrapper on Jan 16, 2007 13:33:05 GMT -6
Thanks for the replys. I'm looking for something to toy with when rain hits like this week, (4-5 inches), instead of not setting out anything at all. Don't snare yet, use drowning cables and stuff yet.
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Post by David Kuhlmann on Jan 16, 2007 13:46:35 GMT -6
Scott, I'm sorry i did not get your pm returned on this... This is a box that i use... Just for an idea... I put a 220 on either end with the bait hanging in the middle on a J-hook off the floor so the bait stay's in place. I use chunks of fish for coons...
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Post by ohiyotee on Jan 16, 2007 13:53:25 GMT -6
Dave , when i look at that box all i see is me in trouble with hound men. The recess in the box with the trap back can save alot of headaches greg
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Post by pastortrapper on Jan 16, 2007 19:48:04 GMT -6
Guys, that was the kind of boxes that I was thinking about. Even with the notches in both ends like the one in Dave's picture. I can see how that one being a bit large may invite k-9 pets.
Dave, have you ever put a trap in both ends and got a double?
And I have seen threads where guys talk about procoon. This a lure of some kind?
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Post by mmwb (Andrew Parker) on Jan 16, 2007 20:54:10 GMT -6
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Post by Stanley on Jan 16, 2007 22:39:45 GMT -6
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Post by pastortrapper on Jan 17, 2007 5:42:38 GMT -6
It just amazes me that a coon can't resist the bait and will go right up into a white bucket. In my thinking that is something that is out of their nautural habitat and they would stay away. Hence, the Procoon. I have a bunch of six gallon buckets up in the barn loft. They have writing on them. Do you think this will matter or should I try to sand off the writing?
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Post by Zagman on Jan 17, 2007 6:34:43 GMT -6
Pastortrapper....the writing on the bucket will be ok, as I believe raccoons cannot read.
Zagman
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Post by Varminteer on Jan 17, 2007 12:24:08 GMT -6
Stanley. What size hole in that bucket cover?
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Post by David Kuhlmann on Jan 17, 2007 13:38:55 GMT -6
Ohiyote, I designed that box with cat's in mind. To be used only when snow is on & when most hound hunter's are pretty well done. I do have a few exclutsive spot's i will use them for coons, but i really don't use them for coon much any more.. Too much junk catch's... Yes, there is a chance to catch a hound yet. Hell, i know a guy that caught a dog in a 160 in a bucket.. Theres no coni out there for coon that WON'T catch a hound.. I'll guarrentee you that your set will catch a terrier slick as can be.. We just need to do our best to place them where a hound won't be... Scott, i would say the white bucket will work as an attractor. The stick out very well. Also to thieves, so if that might be aproblem you will want to camo them some, or cover with grass or mud.. I know you have plenty of mud.. haha.. A good mixture to put in these for coons this time of year is some ground or cracked corn, corn syrup & anise extract.. (both can be bought in the grocery store) Good luck.. & keep in touch... David
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Post by Stef on Jan 17, 2007 16:55:27 GMT -6
Sand the writing and write ... Come here baby Stef
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