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Post by woody on Jul 22, 2004 10:11:00 GMT -6
I just got off the phone with the local landscapers and garden center. heres what I found 1) 50/50 peat/top soil $19.00 a cubic yard scoop 2) Nord peat out of canada 10.95 a cubic yard bale 3) sporgham $7.99 a 2.2 cubic yard bale Now for the question, which one should I go with Like the idea of #1 no mixing just sifting ;D we get very wet here come trapping season. what to do, what to do Man I hate making decissions ;D
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Post by dj88ryr on Jul 22, 2004 10:15:38 GMT -6
Go here and get the REAL stuff, you can search for a retailer near you. www.fafard.com/
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Post by bobwendt on Jul 22, 2004 10:17:12 GMT -6
spagnum! you will need to cut the top off the plastic bailing and let dry, BONE DRY, under roof, and then in a month or three sift out any sticks and bag up for wet weather or sub zero use. You will still need a few 5 gallon buckets of dry dirt to have a thin coating OVER the peat to keep it from blowing or floating away. DO NOT MIX WITH DIRT! Dirt will turn to mud, peat will repel water and stay powder bone dry no matter what, even submerged totally. Most gosh awful amazing stuff you will ever lay your hands on. Your only other choice is move to the desert. he he , no relation to the infamous "peat institute"! This stuff will help you catch more, not less.
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Jul 22, 2004 10:44:38 GMT -6
Don't move to the desert there's nothing out here. It's to dry.
Joel
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Post by lonetrapper on Jul 22, 2004 11:08:47 GMT -6
checked out garden centers here yesterday,they are starting to reduce all there stuff ,checked out pest moss half price 4 dollars a bale they will cut the price one or 2 more times will picked it up then.
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Post by woody on Jul 22, 2004 12:35:47 GMT -6
Thanks DJ, there is a dealer about 18 miles of here. ;D thanks to all ya others for the post also. Bob thanks for the advise before I want and mixed it ;D I knew I could count on you guys to save me some headaches
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Post by BK on Jul 22, 2004 12:58:53 GMT -6
This is something I have always wanted to ask Bob W. .......... How do you get your traps to bed in peat?
Do you use pan covers then using it?
Do you start with it just in late season?
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Post by bobwendt on Jul 22, 2004 13:52:39 GMT -6
no pan covers needed with peat. Traps don`t bed well, but it`s that or mud or some other unbeadable thing like hulls or whatever. It`s not dry dirt trapping with sunny 50 degree days and 32 degree nights, but then what is for long in life. If you dig only a small trap size bed and do the best you can, well that is good enough and keeps you catching under impossible conditions when nothing else works at all. At least nothing I have found except using snares or a gun!
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Post by woody on Jul 22, 2004 15:19:10 GMT -6
DJ, I got on that site and got a list of dealers and found on that is 18 miles from the house, well I called them a few mins ago and guess what the person I talked to didn't have a clue, knew what I was talking about with the Fafard peat, but said they didn't carry it they have a plain peat with out anything added for $8.50 a 3.8 cu. yd bale, might have to go and check it out. Hopefully it's what I am looking for. ;D
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Post by dj88ryr on Jul 22, 2004 15:25:56 GMT -6
I found a supplier near me too, actually 3. Just make sure you get pure sphagnum peat.
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Post by trappnman on Jul 22, 2004 16:06:24 GMT -6
Well- we had 5 canine trappers at Canine Day....and only one nut from Minnesota didn't use peat....
I do think a sort of stepdown would reduce misses...I supose I'm going to have to try it..I better pick op some before I go to Sturgis so it drys well.
I do like just pure dry dirt....but its a real pain having to remake an entire line before a freeze.
I still can't get myself to wax dirt..but i will buy some moss...
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Post by FivePointsJohn on Jul 22, 2004 16:10:36 GMT -6
Woody I'll let you play with some Spagnum this Sunday. And I'll show you what worked for me last year. Minker turned me on to it. John
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Post by woody on Jul 22, 2004 16:21:16 GMT -6
John, I can't get to dirty, I'll have the wifes car ;D I'll call ya around 8 tonight. woody
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Post by trappnman on Jul 22, 2004 18:47:12 GMT -6
John, I can't get to dirty, I'll have the wifes car
Craaaack!
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Post by dj88ryr on Jul 22, 2004 18:48:13 GMT -6
LMAO!!! Now you are starting to rival Edge in the comedy department. ;D
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Post by woody on Jul 22, 2004 18:57:42 GMT -6
Steve, we've only have had it for a week I don't want it all stinky like the truck ;D Oh I don't mean stinky, I mean nice smelling
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Post by trappnman on Jul 22, 2004 19:21:29 GMT -6
LOL- you young pups in love!
so- does the finer thep eat moss is, the more it resists water.
Let me ask this- would making the set with dry dirt- then adding peat moss for the top layer....act as an umbrella and keep the water from penatrating?
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Post by CoonDuke on Jul 22, 2004 19:24:23 GMT -6
Steve, I have limited experience with peat moss, but I would think it would wash away. The stuff is really light.
Dry dirt actually resists water a bit...but not for long. Ever pi$$ on a dry, dusty farm road??
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Post by FivePointsJohn on Jul 22, 2004 19:34:56 GMT -6
OK How much you guy give me to sneak a couple hand fulls into the defrost vents ;D. I'm not cheep but I can be had . John
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Post by Edge on Jul 22, 2004 19:47:41 GMT -6
The peat I have dried out is popcorn-fart dry.No way could you use it on top;blend,maybe,but not as cover,need dirt for that. I am not afraid of the skim layer getting wet or cold whilst the peat is under it.
Edge
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