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Post by CoonDuke on Jul 22, 2004 10:29:42 GMT -6
A lot of lure makers make a sweet, fruity canine lure in the line that they tout as an "early season" fox lure.
I know some guys use these fruity lures for adc and summertime trapping, but do you or anyone you know actually use a lot fruity lures in the fur season?? I don't!
Do you feel a good catch could be made on fruity lures?
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Post by jsevering on Jul 22, 2004 10:49:32 GMT -6
I dont know about fruity, never really gave them a chance, but have resorted to alittle honey in the hole in the fall.
not fruity but sorta sweet...jim
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Post by CoonDuke on Jul 22, 2004 10:57:15 GMT -6
Same here, Jim. I never gave them a chance either.
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Post by Traveler on Jul 22, 2004 11:07:57 GMT -6
O.L.Butcher used to have what he called fox lure no.4 that was as thick as syrup and had a sweet smell.It was dyn-o-mite year round.
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Post by Mallard on Jul 22, 2004 11:09:48 GMT -6
I seemed to do alright on coons with the sweeter, fruity canine lures around the orchards, but have yet to hook up a canine using them. The fox are there but just don't seem interested.
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Post by dj88ryr on Jul 22, 2004 11:23:46 GMT -6
CD, Pikauba is a sweet smelling lure, originally formulated for cats, but it works very well in combination with Cachottier or XLDC. I have not tried it alone however.
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Post by JLDakota on Jul 22, 2004 13:01:53 GMT -6
Tom Miranda used to make a sweet fox lure that I used to use early season and liked called November Red. Fox and coon both liked it. Jim
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Post by pnwmtnmn on Jul 22, 2004 13:17:48 GMT -6
considering the amount of fruit seeds I see in their scat a sweet lure should work, at least in the early part of the season. Used as a duel purpose for coon and k-9 get double your money?
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Post by Maineman on Jul 22, 2004 14:20:49 GMT -6
Todd, There's no doubt in my mind that you can catch fox on a sweet smelling lure or bait, but for me it comes down to a simple question... What is the BEST lure that I can put down the hole and have the MOST confidence in?...  I don't come up with a "Sweet" smelling lure in my top 5... Raccoon? YES... Fox? NO... |
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Post by CoonDuke on Jul 22, 2004 14:25:23 GMT -6
I don't have a sweet one in my top 5 either, but then again I never tried one. Just seems all my lures smell either foxy or skunky??? Maybe a fruity one would be a good changeup??
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Post by dj88ryr on Jul 22, 2004 14:40:34 GMT -6
Maybe alone it wouldn't make many trappers top 5, but consider the combination of skunk and sweet, how many triggers are you tripping then, and are you going to keep them at the set longer? I tink so.
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Post by coydog on Jul 22, 2004 15:09:41 GMT -6
I think it all depends on where you are located and what kind of weather your dealing with. One of my favorite lures I use, with excellent results, is sweet smelling and doesnt work worth a darn for the guy that makes it out west, but he sells the crap out of it to guys from the mid-west. This could be a whole different post, but I have always wondered with guys that use a lot of LDC (skunky) if it is more attractive in areas of low skunk population? I have decent results with "skunked" up lures, but nothing dominating.  |
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Post by Mallard on Jul 22, 2004 15:20:02 GMT -6
Good point DJ, and as long as we've reduced the definition to sweet, instead of fruity sweet, I guess I can say that I do indeed have success with sweet canine lures in conjunction with a call lure. I don't necessarly mean at the same set, but in close proximity. If I use a call lure, which I will at every location, I set it with the idea that that set will be investigated first and hopefully connect. Once that coyote is caught, from what I've seen, the others in the group will stick around and basicaly run circles around it or back in forth in front or behind it. In my mind I don't like having a coyote caught and only have other skunky scents around, so I end up employing a gland lure, food lure, or even a mink musk or something, and while they don't seem to work by themselves that well, aside from the gland lure, I personably beleive the milder scents work great for the coyotes working the area around one thats already caught.
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Post by PAMINK on Jul 22, 2004 15:34:58 GMT -6
I used a sweet lure made in NY that would suck K9's in like a vacuum cleaner. I'm not gonna advertise his name here though. ;D Great lure. Terry
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Post by trappnman on Jul 22, 2004 15:56:47 GMT -6
Sweet smellsdefinitely work- one of the results of the Lgan tests was that sugars were one of the top attractants...
Never tried a fruity smell...but sweet....yes, my best changeup.
And really- to me, and probably a canine, refined fish oil is sort of a sweet smell.
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Post by JLDakota on Jul 22, 2004 17:38:48 GMT -6
I believe it was Miranda's opinion in the early 80's that early season when it was still warm, canines weren't all that interested in rotten meat (bait) but were attracted to a sweet lure. He used his sweet Nov Red in conjunction with his various gland lures in 90% of his early season sets. Jim
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Post by trappnman on Jul 22, 2004 17:49:49 GMT -6
Well, JL..he never mentioned it in his book- but I concur!
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Post by SteveW on Jul 22, 2004 19:19:59 GMT -6
I collect old lures, I have a couple of bottles of Biermans #4 fox lure. It has a very different smell to it. It puts me in mind of shampoo or almost a whiskey type smell. This lure is extremely thick. I do not know how it would work on the line, as I hate to use it.
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Post by JLDakota on Jul 22, 2004 20:17:32 GMT -6
Steve,
Don't know which book you are referencing, but I went back and dug his Competition Line Fox Trapping and its in there just about as I remembered it under Lures. The reason I remembered it was, because after I had used it with some success, I found a 12 (1 oz) bottle case of it being closed out for a buck a bottle at a convention and got the case for 10 bucks. I often get the short end of the stick on stuff I want but this time I felt I won big. Jim
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Post by trappnman on Jul 22, 2004 21:03:53 GMT -6
Never read that one- I just have his Coyote book- Tom got me started o nmultiple lures, no doubt.Y
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