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gloves
Jun 27, 2004 11:49:02 GMT -6
Post by dj88ryr on Jun 27, 2004 11:49:02 GMT -6
Hunky, I do mist my sets, but not to hide human scent. There is nothing you can do to convince the critter, that were not there. He knows you were there, he also knows you are not there any more. What you need to do is pique his curiosity as to why you were there. If you trip his trigger, he doesn't care if you were there or not.
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Bayou
Demoman...
North Louisiana
Posts: 147
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gloves
Jun 27, 2004 12:04:08 GMT -6
Post by Bayou on Jun 27, 2004 12:04:08 GMT -6
DJ I agree w/ the k9s knowing you was there & smelling you for a couple days after a trapper made or walked up to set.
Couple years ago I had a blended dirthole right on side of ATV trail,used heavly by deer hunters but season had been over bout a week,I had a chunk of deer meat in bottom of hole & good dab of CanineSelect on lip,I didnt get off my ATV & checked it for 4 days ,nothing,but I could see where a nice coyote had been on both sides of set & one night went right by it & just turned toward it & turned back & went on his way ,the 5'th check I had the nicest ole coyote I ever saw in these parts.
Was it because I havnt left any direct human scent at set for 4 or more days,& it didnt smell me & then worked set? or was it just being a dang coyote?
Daryl
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gloves
Jun 27, 2004 12:08:28 GMT -6
Post by dj88ryr on Jun 27, 2004 12:08:28 GMT -6
If it was his home range, I would think he was just being a coyote. The appearance of the "new" disturbance, took him some time to get used to. It could also have been scent, but more probably the former. I might add, that this is coming from a poor coyote trapper at best, ( maybe move up to mediocre this season after learning a bunch of tips from the pros at the canine demo ) I sure am glad foxes aren't this cautious. ;D
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Bayou
Demoman...
North Louisiana
Posts: 147
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gloves
Jun 27, 2004 12:18:01 GMT -6
Post by Bayou on Jun 27, 2004 12:18:01 GMT -6
Same here man,coyotes are harder to catch compared to coons,possums,&nutria.But they alot more fun ,lol, couple years ago I decided Im not going get rich trapping any of them so Im going try have as much fun as possible. ;D , just hope to get a few otter to level out gas bill & I be ok.
Daryl
Gloves:I use clean leather or jersey gloves to set &handle stuuf around set,bait w/no gloves w/a stick or plastic knife,this works great for about a week then it seems like most my gloves are a wet ,smelly mess & I quit wearin em,ezcept when its around freezing &I have a couple warm clean pr. for that.
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gloves
Jun 27, 2004 12:47:24 GMT -6
Post by trappnman on Jun 27, 2004 12:47:24 GMT -6
Daryl- it might have been human scent, it might have been a number of things including the coyote just wasn't interested enough.
But..if I would have to guess...I would personally feel that the sudden appearance of this dirthole (perhaps made right smack in his core range) spooked the coyote enough so that he was uneasy...after weather softened the set and he became accustomed to it...bang!
Or it could be a combo...oe none of the above..LOL
seriously, I firmly beleive more cooytes are spooked from working a set by bad visuals than too much odor.
daryl, when collaring, I often had 2-4 techs kneeling and walking around a caught coyote doing their measuring, exam, etc. I worreid that al lthe scent might kil lthe area- and it seemd to have no real nfluence.
The only thing I see by me where too much human activity puts aside yotes is areas that get constant deer hunting pressure- where hunters are i nthe woods several times a day if not al lday- these coyotes shift...but that is I am sure more from constant presence than odor.
Think that in a farmland/hunting situation- a coyote must cross human scent many, many times a day...he would go crazy if he reacted to all those old scents- anything pretty much a few hours old I am convinced is not a problem- if even for that long.
In certain isolated areas, coyotes mighht be more sensitive to human scent trails...but not in farmland or suburbia areas. And a lot of that isolated reaction might simply be because the coyote population is much less dense- and the fewer animals in a population, at least in canines, the harder they are to catch.
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gloves
Jun 28, 2004 13:49:24 GMT -6
Post by CoonDuke on Jun 28, 2004 13:49:24 GMT -6
Leather for set making. Nothin' for luring.
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gloves
Jun 28, 2004 13:58:47 GMT -6
Post by Maineman on Jun 28, 2004 13:58:47 GMT -6
Leather for set making. Nothin' for luring. eco, eco, eco ;D
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gloves
Jun 28, 2004 20:26:12 GMT -6
Post by skidway on Jun 28, 2004 20:26:12 GMT -6
I can't seem to do anything with gloves on so I set barehanded. I keep a couple pair of cheap brown jersey gloves in my bucket for when it gets below freezing. If I was a water trapper it would be different.
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gloves
Jun 28, 2004 20:46:10 GMT -6
Post by 17kiss on Jun 28, 2004 20:46:10 GMT -6
I am going to the zag scholl of gloves this year. just makes sense , like Severing I smoke , plus The wife always gives me crap when i roll over and put my arms around her with some of the good stuff not quite cleaned off. Some stuff lingers for days. Solves 2 problems for me if it works
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gloves
Jun 28, 2004 22:03:48 GMT -6
Post by Clefus on Jun 28, 2004 22:03:48 GMT -6
Cotton for settin...nuttin for lurin...rubber if it starts gettin like a pighole... Lunch usually smells like lure often..
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gloves
Jun 29, 2004 8:25:55 GMT -6
Post by trappnman on Jun 29, 2004 8:25:55 GMT -6
you guys that don't use gloves to lure must be a lot neater trappers than myself...even WITH wearing cotton gloves to lure, my hands smell like lure.
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gloves
Jun 29, 2004 8:37:02 GMT -6
Post by Wright Brothers on Jun 29, 2004 8:37:02 GMT -6
After wearing pvc gloves in muddy wet weather my hands smell like feet, they may hurt more than help.
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gloves
Jun 29, 2004 8:41:13 GMT -6
Post by trappnman on Jun 29, 2004 8:41:13 GMT -6
I tried rubber gloves for both gopher trapping and canine trapping- my hands just sweat too much- then get some dirt inside- now you got mud.
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gloves
Jun 29, 2004 8:43:24 GMT -6
Post by a1foxhopper on Jun 29, 2004 8:43:24 GMT -6
That's why I like them 1 oz. bottles I can screw an eye dropper in. I will be using more Q-tips next year with Stefs lure. Never fails if I try to pour lure down a hole I get "stinky fingers"!
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gloves
Jun 29, 2004 8:46:56 GMT -6
Post by dj88ryr on Jun 29, 2004 8:46:56 GMT -6
you guys that don't use gloves to lure must be a lot neater trappers than myself...even WITH wearing cotton gloves to lure, my hands smell like lure. AND THE PROBLEM IS? ? ;D
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gloves
Jun 29, 2004 8:48:51 GMT -6
Post by trappnman on Jun 29, 2004 8:48:51 GMT -6
My trapping truck is like a showpiece...I don't tolerate dust, odors, wrappers or any mess inside...
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gloves
Jun 29, 2004 9:05:42 GMT -6
Post by Deadfall_Paul on Jun 29, 2004 9:05:42 GMT -6
Just want to play devils advocate for a minute. Seems everyone is concerned about getting the set contaminated with scent from the lure. What happens to the lure that was there when you caught the fox/'yote ? Doesn't it get spread around the catch circle pretty darn good ? Don't some guys then use urine to "mist" the set to solve this problem ? Doesn't that animal pee all over everything most times after being caught ? So much for us being careful about where the "attracters" are. Just curious to know what others think on this. By the way, I have a mustache and also have a habit of wiping my mouth with the back of my hand. Guess what my wife says when I go to kiss her!!
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gloves
Jun 29, 2004 9:38:04 GMT -6
Post by a1foxhopper on Jun 29, 2004 9:38:04 GMT -6
In a catch circle everthing smells. On a new set I still would rather not have a gob of lure over my trap. I don't want him digging and scratchin on top of my trap. I want him standing there concentrating on the goody in the hole.
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gloves
Jun 29, 2004 10:02:45 GMT -6
Post by Deadfall_Paul on Jun 29, 2004 10:02:45 GMT -6
Of course we wouldn't want a gob of lure above the trap.
Making the initial set I always take care with odors.
Maybe some folks are more careful than others and that is the diference ?
Me thinks after a catch the lure would be so dispersed and mixed up in the circle that it would compare with the the small amount from bare hand setting.
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gloves
Jun 29, 2004 17:21:26 GMT -6
Post by trappnman on Jun 29, 2004 17:21:26 GMT -6
I'm not that concerned with lure in the set area- I know my lure down the hole in concentrated form will provide more of an interest than the remnants of the original set.
But I also know that lure on a trap at a FRESH set WILL cause digging at the trap- I believe that to be undisputed-
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